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We have already talked about the significance of the Winter Meetings beginning today in Nashville. I feel the odds are pretty good that by tomorrow, there may be some significant movement, but you can never be sure. Any team is one blown-out elbow away from a ruined season. The…

By Mark Timmons3 min read55 comments

We have already talked about the significance of the Winter Meetings beginning today in Nashville. I feel the odds are pretty good that by tomorrow, there may be some significant movement, but you can never be sure. Any team is one blown-out elbow away from a ruined season. The Yankees of 2023 were a prime example of that. Their signing of Gerrit Cole continues to be outstanding, but the acquisition of Carlos Rodon has been a dud (so far). They were a team that was expected to go deep into the playoffs, but they crashed and burned.

Corbin Burnes could be the ace the Dodgers covet, or his arm may need the dreaded Tommy John. To a large degree, player acquisition is a crapshoot. You scout, you analyze, you do a physical, and you roll the dice! Yamamoto may be an Ace… or another player who failed to live up to his press clippings. Shohei Ohtani is a man who puts on his pants the same as anyone… and he will be 30 years old on July 5th. Players generally decline in their 30s, but who can guarantee anything?

Signing Ohtani is a baseball decision, not a marketing decision. The Dodgers brand is more known worldwide than practically any other sports team. Andrew Friedman is charged to win, not market, and he will make the final decision. If Shohei Ohtani becomes a Dodger, it is because they believe he will improve the team.

JP Hoornstra said that “a lot of old-time baseball fans forget that the NL Winner no longer plays the AL Winner for the World Series. It’s more of a crapshoot than it is a Championship.” That’s the reality of the baseball world we live in.

Since 2017, here is the record and result of the Dodgers by year:

  • 2017 – 104 Wins – Lost the World Series to the Cheaters
  • 2018 – 92 Wins – Lost to the Red Sox (a better team)
  • 2019 – 106 Wins – Lost the NLDS to the Nats who were red-hot at the end of the season
  • 2020 – 60 Wins – Won the World Series in the longest playoff ever (were on pace to win 116 games)
  • 2021 – 106 Wins – Lost the NLCS to the World Series Winners – Atlanta Braves
  • 2022 – 111 Wins – Bounced from the playoffs by a team they dominated in the first round
  • 2023 – 100 Wins – Bounced from the playoffs by a team they dominated in the first round

Of course, many fans talk about how Roberts can’t manage, and Friedman cannot build a team that wins in the playoffs. Both statement brand the sayers of them as delusional morons. The playoffs are a crapshoot, and you need outstanding pitching to win… except the Rangers and the Diamondbacks, who had a 4.26 and 4.48 team ERA for the postseason. That was the worst in recent history! The Dodgers starting pitching was bad last year, but they had a 4.06 ERA – go figure! Every team that won 100 was bounced from the playoffs in short order.

The Dodgers could sign Ohtani and a bunch of other players for a total of $200 Million at the Winter Meetings and get bounced in the first round of the playoffs, or they could stand pat and win the World Series. I am not saying that actually could happen, but it could! No matter what your mouth says – it’s still a crapshoot! Still, you have to try and put yourself in the best position to win.

Dave Roberts has the best winning percentage of any MLB Manager – EVER! Under Andrew Friedman, the Dodgers have the best record of any team… by far! Damn I wish they were perfect, and this was a perfect world – It is not!

It’s somewhat of a crapshoot after the regular season, and those are the rules we have to play under. Still, the Dodgers will try and get a lot better! They will spend upward of $100 Million in doing so. If forced to bet… I would bet that Shohei Ohtani will not be a Dodger. I am not a hater – Just a Realist!

Here we go!

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  1. Tom1946December 5, 2023

    P.S. Paraphasing Mark, while the rest of baseball is “playing checkers, the Guggenheim Dodgers are play chess”….

  2. Tom1946December 5, 2023

    Not having the baseball insights of many on LADT, I keep reading these tea leaves:

    (1) The owner of the Dodgers is Guggenheim Partners – one of the largest, private, international investment organizations in the world.

    (2) Ohtani represents MLB’s biggest international marketing opportunity in baseball history with significant new revenue opportunities.

    (3) As Mark recently pointed out, the Dodgers have the largest international marketing staff of any team in MLB.

    (4) The Dodgers unloaded salary this past year to position themselves to capitalize on these “Ohtani revenue opportunities.”

    (5) All professional sports are positioning themselves to be international players; baseball is ahead of the NFL and NBA and the Dodgers are poitioning themselves to be #1.

    (6) Personally, I think Guggenheim Partners are driving the decisions of the LA Ddogers from now on.

    (7) Of course, I could be all wrong about this.

  3. DodgfanDecember 5, 2023

    The global footprint of MLB pales in comparison to soccer and other sports. That is an apples and oranges comparison. When Ronaldo by himself would take up nearly half of the team’s budget, it tells you everything you need to know how other sports compare to baseball.

    I understand Ohtani represents a major piece of the global marketing machine for MLB, but I don’t think the sport is there yet, and I have doubts as to whether it will ever be.

    Soccer is king among international sports. Basketball has established a huge presence around the world thanks to ambassadors like Michael Jordan. Baseball is behind, way behind.

  4. Duke Not SniderDecember 5, 2023

    Ohtani at $50-60 million AAV looks pretty fair in the context of sports superstar salaries.

    Cristiano Reynaldo, at age 38, signed a two-year deal with the Saudis at $200 million per year. (We’ll add the * because it’s Saudi petro dollars.)

    But 36-year-old Lionel Messi, without Saudi help, is earning $135 million from Miami in the MLS. At least three other soccer stars have contracts with AAV north of $100 million –Neymar Jr, Mbappe and a guy I’ve never heard of, Karim Benzena. (Oh, just noticed he’s also taking Saudi blood money.)

    In the NFL, Joe Burrow is earning $55 million per year. Good QB! Some other QBs aren’t far behind. But should they earn more than a superstar like Ohtani?

    In the NBA, nine players are earning more than $40 million per season–and that’s with a salary cap.

  5. dodger dadDecember 5, 2023

    500 million – 600 million? wow!! i guess it all comes down to ohtani and his personal preference. if he is a dodger, great. if he goes to Toronto, even better! just hope if isn’t a dodger, he’s in the American league! hope soto ends up a yankee. someone said earlier, smells of another lackluster winter meeting for LA! who the heck knows? always enjoy the offseason, the rumors, the trades, the hype, and all of us playing GM! but honestly, this 600 million stuff is a bit of a downer. ain’t no one player worth that. , even ohtani.

  6. sbuffaloDecember 5, 2023

    For what it’s worth, the Dodgers are reportedly one of two teams to put an offer for Ohtani of between $500 and $600 million. That from MLB radio.

  7. Mark TimmonsDecember 5, 2023

    This smacks of an Andrew Friedman move:

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/erick-fedde-nearing-deal-with-unknown-team.html

  8. dodger dadDecember 4, 2023

    i like it. my only concern is the corners., left and right. i would look for one more outfielder , i’m not sure the 4 you listed will hit 35 homers combined.

  9. Mark TimmonsDecember 4, 2023

    I still go back to the trade I suggested a few weeks ago:

    1. Trade for Cease and Robert, Jr. – Trade Busch or Vargas, Outman, Pages, Sheehan, Williams, Austin Barnes, and Frasso

    2. Sign JDM

    3. Sign Imagana

    4. Sign Mitch Garver

    Lineup:

    1. Lux SS

    2. Betts 2B

    3. Freeman 1B

    4. Robert, Jr. CF

    5. JDM DH

    6. Smith C

    7. Muncy 3B

    8. Heyward/DeLuca RF

    9. Busch or Vargas LF (whichever one you don’t trade)

    That lineup would be devastating!

  10. CassidyDecember 4, 2023

    If Mookies playing 2nd, then Busch or Vargas will be moved. We’ll see who Dodgers like better and might end up at third next year.

  11. CassidyDecember 4, 2023

    Robert’s just announced Mookie is our 2nd baseman next year. Vargas and Busch better get a left fielders glove!

  12. BlutoDecember 4, 2023

    For those following at home, the trade simulator APPROVES the Braves/Mariners trade!

    Gonzalez, Kelenic, White and Cash comes to about 3

    Cole Phillips is 3.2 (other Mariner acquisitions are nil)

  13. sbuffaloDecember 4, 2023

    Up, up and away.

    The media keeps reporting the price for Ohtani’s services keeps climbing higher. Will it reach 600 mil? Maybe even go higher.

    That’s bat crap crazy, of course. No player in history is worth that. Even if he can generate $75 to 100 million a year in additional revenue streams for the signing organization, there would other factors in saying such a contract would be a bad deal.

    You’d never stay under the payroll tax, nor would you be able to keep a club competitive in the long run. It would take away flexibility to add other needs. Trout and Ohtani didn’t put the Angels into the playoffs.

    Yes, he’s an incredible talent, but with a boat anchor contract.

    A couple of reports the Dodgers are moving away, but others saying the Dodgers are all in … whatever that means.

    Even if the Dodgers don’t sign Ohtani, doesn’t mean they will switch the money elsewhere, like Yamamoto. Or even make a big trade. Cease is still up in the air and apparently the White Sox wanted a lot more than the Dodgers are offering in prospect capital.

    Oh, at some point they will make a trade or two, I’m sure. What that will look like, I have no idea.

  14. Mark TimmonsDecember 4, 2023

    From MLBTR:

    Last night’s Braves/Mariners trade saw Jarred Kelenic, Marco Gonzales and Evan White go from Seattle to Atlanta, but it seems Gonzales’ stay with the Braves will be brief. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Braves aren’t planning to keep Gonzales and expect to move him in another trade. Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times adds that Gonzales himself expected as much to happen after being informed he’d been traded to Atlanta. It’s not yet clear if there’s an imminent trade involving Gonzales or if he’s being shopped around at present, but it’s a notable revelation with regard to the Braves’ rotation outlook all the same.

    Gonzales, 32 in February, is due to earn $12MM this season in the final season of a four-year, $30MM extension he signed back in 2020. The contract also contains a $15MM club option for the 2025 season, which does not come with a buyout.

  15. Mark TimmonsDecember 4, 2023

    Jung Hoo Lee To Be Posted Today

  16. dodger dadDecember 4, 2023

    never wanted him , inconsistent and attitude.

  17. Mark TimmonsDecember 4, 2023

    Some Dodger fans wanted Chris Archer. Now they have him!

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/dodgers-hire-chris-archer-as-special-assistant.html

  18. OldBear48December 4, 2023

    Cardinals are listening to offers for Tyler O’Neil

  19. CassidyDecember 4, 2023

    Saw this on another thread.

    Give me Ohtani or give me depth!

    I like it!

  20. CassidyDecember 4, 2023

    Drive safe Bear! Enjoy your time with your family!

  21. OldBear48December 4, 2023

    First day of the meetings is always the slowest. I have to get my truck serviced today. Oil change and tire rotation. Leaving on Thursday morning for the coast.

  22. CassidyDecember 4, 2023

    Hard to imagine AF as a prizefighter!

  23. Mark TimmonsDecember 4, 2023

    So far, the Winter Meetings are like Round One in a Prize Fight, where the boxers are sizing each other up before throwing their punches. Trades and signings could come in a flurry of haymakers!

  24. Mark TimmonsDecember 4, 2023

    I have always said that Gavin Lux is not a SS.

    Here’s more rumors:

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/dodgers-could-be-looking-to-upgrade-at-shortstop.html

    The Willy Adames rumor is getting teeth.

  25. OldBear48December 4, 2023

    First trade of the meetings, Braves get Kelenic, White and left-hander, Marco Gonzales for Jackson Kowar, and Cole Phillips. Cash is also heading to the Mariners. It is a salary dump with the Braves taking on Gonzales 12.25 mil and White’s 7. Dodgers contract with Joe Kelly is for 8 million.

  26. JohnnyGentleDecember 4, 2023

    Joe Kelly isn’t worth $8m

  27. OldBear48December 4, 2023

    I was watching a video from 22 of Pepiot pitching, and looking at the kid, he reminded me of another pitcher who wore that number # 47 and had long hair like Pepiot does. ………Andy Messersmith.

    As the old saying goes, prepare for disappointment, that way you will be pleasantly surprised when something good happens. Dodger fans should take that to heart. USC to play Louisville in the Holiday Bowl in San Diego. Will Smith will love that.

  28. OldBear48December 4, 2023

    Jim Leland only one elected to the Hall by the Era committee. Lou Pinella missed by one vote.

  29. Duke Not SniderDecember 4, 2023

    OK, in light of the Chourio deal, let’s revisit Mark’s idea for a blockbuster built around Burnes.

    The headliner from the Dodgers is Lux, a Wisconsin boy with star upside who can play 2B or SS, and might be the Brewers new leadoff hitter. He could be a “face of the franchise” guy for the small-market Brewers while he’d always be part of the supporting cast for the stsr-studded Dodgers.

    He is packaged with top prospect Busch, who would fill the Brewers vacancy at 1B. He is blocked in LA, but he could blossom into a star, much like Paul Konerko did for the White Sox.

    The Brewers will require an ML-tested SP to replace Burnes, which could be Sheehan or Pepiot.

    If needed, the Dodgers could sweeten the deal with a catcher like Yeiner Fernandez or a second-tier pitcher like Grove or a prospect like Kendall Williams. For good measure, maybe toss in an RP off the 40-man like Yency Almonte.

    The Brewers would get a lot of contract control and reduce their payroll. In return, the Dodgers get Burnes as their new ace, Adames as SS upgrade and Yelich to play left.

    And that’s not all! Because the Dodgers also wrangle premium RP Devin Williams in deal!

    Or maybe not.

    Both Burnes and Adames are in the final year of their contract, but that doesn’t bother me. If they play well, the Dodgers brass would try to extend them. If not, move on. Yelich is a solid veteran who would be ensconced in LF for the next several years. I’m not a huge Yelich fan, but with folks here are suggesting that a first baseman like Hoskins should play LF, Yelich looks better to me. Of course, keeping LF open for guys like Vargas or DeLuca makes sense too–but the Brewers may need to shed Yelich’s contract

    The lineup could be something like…

    Mookie 2B/RF

    Freddie 1B

    Shohei DH

    Smith C

    Yelich LF

    Max/ Vargas 3B

    Adames SS

    Outman CF

    Hayward/DeLuca or Taylor RF

    And that would be pretty awesome. The Dodgers would have substantial offensive upgrades at DH, SS and LF.

    *Against lefties, Mookie plays RF and either Vargas or Taylor or Miguel Rojas covers 2B. Max doesn’t need a full-time platoon partner, but it could make sense depending on the pitcher. Same with Outman.

    The argument against getting Yelich or another outsider to play LF is that the position provides best opportunity for Vargas, Busch and DeLuca to play.

  30. EricDecember 4, 2023

    The most vulnerable to be traded to open spots on the 40 man roster if needed seems to me would be Rojas, Varland, Hudson, all minor trades. After that if needed Gonzalez. Vivas possibly. I would say Barnes, but some say Feduccia might not hit as good as Barnes.

  31. Duke Not SniderDecember 4, 2023

    It’s eported that Ohtani has received multiple offers north of $500 million.

    This really shouldn’t be surprising at all, considering the trend in salaries in other major team sports. Soccer, basketball, football–the superstars are all keep getting bigger and bigger megabucks.

    And it’s no coincidence that the Brewers have now signed top prospect Jackson Chourio, who hasn’t played a single MLB game, to a deal that will be worth at least $82 million and perhaps as much as $142 million.

    The Chourio deal could have implications for the Dodgers.

    The Brewers now have a surplus of outfielders, and perhaps they’ll want to move Yelich’s contract in a deal for Burnes, or maybe the Dodgers would prefer Sal Frelich or ???.

    The Dodgers and Brewers just match up so well…

  32. Andrew Vincent ForteDecember 4, 2023

    Ohtani’s surgery was conducted by Dodgers head team physician Dr. Neal ElAttrache. Could that provide a clue into his free-agency intentions, given ElAttrache has now conducted two major surgeries on Ohtani? Thankfully, ElAttrache had nothing but positive things to say post-surgery, and expects Ohtani to make a full recovery.

  33. R SlrzDecember 4, 2023

    Looking more and more like it will be more of the same offseason stories of the Dodgers being the front runners on every big star then getting edged out. Come on Freidman lets get some positive news going and start going all in and landing these big names so we can win a few championships and not get swept in the first round!

  34. BlutoDecember 4, 2023

    If we turn our ears from idle fan speculation to what I hope is informed speculation:

    Morosi:

    Dylan Cease trade market is robust as the winter meetings begin in Nashville.

    Dodgers, Braves, and Orioles are all involved, sources say, and other teams also remain engaged with the White Sox.

    The Mariners and Rays are trade partners to watch in Nashville this week.

    They have spoken about Isaac Paredes, as I reported earlier today.

    Randy Arozarena is available, and it is believed his name has come up in different scenarios, as well.

    Heyman:

    Tons of trade interest in Tyler Glasnow. Not surprising.

    Brewers are moving closer to a deal with Wade Miley. Would be 1 year.

    Alek Manoah’s name has come up in Juan Soto trade talks with the Padres. Could be a good change of scenery guy.

  35. JohnnyGentleDecember 3, 2023

    I will quit the blog if we dont sign him. I mean it.

  36. DodgfanDecember 3, 2023

    Dodger brass has been notoriously tight lip about free agent and trade targets during AF’s reign. Beyond speculation, I have no clue what they’re thinking.

    Friedman strikes me as a guy who doesn’t necessarily stick to a philosophy but one driven by opportunity.

    On one hand we make a case that he doesn’t sign players to long term deals, yet, he awarded Mookie a 12-year deal. He gave Freeman, who was already in his 30’s, a 6-year deal.

    While we will never know the math behind the deals, if Dodger brass sees value in a deal, I have no doubt they will pull the trigger regardless of length or AAV.

  37. CassidyDecember 3, 2023

    Cmon AF, don’t give us coal in our stocking this Christmas. Don’t be a rational Santa this year! Tell Walter to sell off some of his Apple stock!

  38. MichaelDecember 3, 2023

    If Ohtani’s biggest want is a winning team seems he would want to sign soon as possible in order that his new team knows what there working with and can start filling other needs best they can before the better options are gone

  39. dodger dadDecember 3, 2023

    Snell is a 5 inning pitcher. that means Doc comes and gets him after 4!!! lol just having fun!

  40. BradleyDecember 3, 2023

    Dodgers would be better off signing Rhys Hoskins Yamamoto Snell and Giolito then signing Ohtani. Why Rhys can Dh play Left field and first base when Freeman can DH. Yamamoto because he would be number one then cy young Snell your number two and then Buehler and Miller and Pepiot name a better starting six then that. And sign Keke as well he can play the infield and outfield as can taylor can that’s what the dodgers want guys that can play else where. Not Ohtani who can only be a DH this year. And what the heck sign Joc Pederson he can come back and lighten up the clubhouse with him and Keke back. Going to be fun like they say being the kids back together for a world series run.

  41. EricDecember 3, 2023

    I agree with Mark that getting to the playoffs year after year after year is the goal and enjoyable, even without a lot of championships, at least for me it is.

    But good pitching beats good hitting in the playoffs and right about now the Dodgers don’t have that. And I’m not talking about a starting pitcher or pitchers that apparently have the tools to be an ace, that have never been a consistent ace, that’s called hoping. I’ve hoped for a lot of things throughout my life and almost all of them didn’t happen.

  42. Andrew Vincent ForteDecember 3, 2023

    You better watch out

    You better not cry

    You better not pout

    I’m telling you why (why)

    Shotei Ohtani is coming to town

  43. Singing The BlueDecember 3, 2023

    Bobby, you asked above if Ohtani has to leave the game as a DH if he’s taken out as the pitcher.

    They put in the “Ohtani Rule”, I believe before the 2022 season, which states that if a starting pitcher is also the DH he can remain in the game as the DH if taken out as the pitcher.

    Problem solved.

  44. OldBear48December 3, 2023

    MLBTR story this morning said that Ohtani probably will not make his decision known by the end of the meetings or the end of the week. Most likely, it will be after the meetings are over. That could change, but right now it seems to be the case. The Dodger roster currently stands at 39. There have been two free agent signings, Kelly and Heyward. There are 23 pitchers, 4 catchers, 4 outfielders and 8 infielders on the current roster. Before they make any additions to the roster there needs to be some movement of multiple players. I see a trade coming before a signing. And the trade would have to include more players leaving than coming back. Or, they are going to have to trim the roster by cutting some players loose.

    There are 3 or 4 pitchers who I would consider fringe guys who could be let go. Almonte, Gonzalez, Hudson, and maybe Yarbrough. Likely trade bait would be the kids, Sheehan, Stone, Vargas, Busch, Vivas. I think the Dodgers consider Pepiot, and Miller pretty much untouchable.

    But just what AF has in mind remains to be seen. No matter what happens, the groundwork is now being laid.

  45. glaze3December 3, 2023

    “His surgery really messed with his plans!” This! I wonder how it is affecting his negotiations. I have heard more than a couple of insiders talk about selling him on being a reliever now. That shouldn’t cost you $50 mil a season.

  46. norcaldodgerfanDecember 3, 2023

    https://twitter.com/BobbyMilone29/status/1731347099793395818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1731347099793395818%7Ctwgr%5E3c19c59412cab5422184ffd11aebe5fa95529e97%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsbnation.coral.coralproject.net%2Fapi%2Foembed%3Ftype%3Dtwitterurl%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FBobbyMilone292Fstatus2F1731347099793395818siteID%3D1c2154b5-1652-42d1-9110-0a07a563bbdeframeID%3Dframe-id-88b98129-6778-42ab-a90f-b98ab518ba99-34c982d0-9204-11ee-9a54-a5847c5588d4

    Morosi tweet saying Ohtani prefers to play in LA where his doctors are located

  47. 4-GensDecember 3, 2023

    The Dodger model is a good one — build a team with depth that wins the regular season, and make a a few trade deadline moves to win it all. We should have won in 2017. And, the year we traded for Sherzer and T Turner would have likely been another title if not for the rash of injuries (i.e., Muncy, JT, …).

    I see the Dodgers trading some prospects to get a veteran arm for a year or two while they see how Miller and Pepiot mature, and also see what they have in Buehler and May. Having a strong bullpen will help with this strategy, which we’re starting to see come together.

    I would like to see a power RH bat to complement W Smith and Mookie. Seems like we have plenty of LH sticks with Freeman, Muncy, Outman, and Heyward.

    Regarding Ohtani, I wonder if the reason a contract is taking so long is that teams are balking at his asking price. For $300m plus, teams/fans expect a Mookie, Machado, Harper, Judge. We’ll never know with his agent being so secretive, but just a thought. His surgery really messed with his plans!

  48. Andrew Vincent ForteDecember 3, 2023

    None of us should care what the Dodgers sign Ohtani for, it’s NOT our money. Ticket prices will go up, food,at the Stadium will go up along with parking and Dodger merchandise. Your choice and control of the situation is don’t attend any games. But you know something even if you don’t go, the stadium will be packed almost to capacity every game even with increased prices.

  49. dodger dadDecember 3, 2023

    whoa! rough on Mark! like i said earlier, we will experience (1) joy! (2) slight satisfaction. (3) despair. 600 million ? NO! 500 million? NO! 5 years at 60 a year with incentives and an opt out? you tell me! Bear , Patsy Cline was an absolute lifetime talent! Whitney Houston was good. took my wife to see Natalie Cole a few years ago. Absolutely amazing voice. also saw Allison Krause, loved it! but maybe my favorite female singer of all time, Ann Wilson of Heart! seen them 3 times. WOW! love Stevie Nicks, and Christine McVie! was never a huge Johnny Cash fan , but love Rosanne Cash. Taylor Swift is a pretty girl and a worldwide star! i don’t know even 1 of her songs! check in later!

  50. MichaelDecember 3, 2023

    I got a nauseating gut feeling they do sign Ohtani, do not acquire any front line starters. Get some reclamation projects and a strikeout prone outfielder who needs to be platooned. Have a good regular season, get bounced early once again. Mark will get a bigger defense lawyer chair, blaming it on being a crapshoot, bringing up the good years over and over and over and talking about chess and checkers

  51. BobbyDecember 3, 2023

    Bottom line is this: no matter if we pay Shohei $50mil a year or $15 mil a year, and no matter if he hits .280 with 30hr and 90rbi, or whether he hits .300 with 50hr/130rbi, we’ll be be deciding if he was worth it in October 2024.

    Carry us in October, and nobody will care what he got paid or how he did in July vs the Pirates. Suck in October (like Mookie and Freddie and Kershaw), and we’ll say he was a waste of time even if he wins unanimous NL MVP in 2024.

    That will be the case with Kelly, Heyward, Yamamoto, Burnes, Adames, Giolito, Hoskins, or anyone else we’ve all discussed the past few weeks. How they do in October (to be determined) will decide if any new player was worth it. This is the reality of this current Dodger run. October is all that matters now.

  52. sbuffaloDecember 3, 2023

    Okay, the fantasy is over and I’m lowering my expectations.

    That’s after reading an LA Times story yesterday by Jack Harris who warned there is a possibility the Dodgers might miss out on Ohtani and Yamamoto. He pointed out the Dodgers again fell short in the bidding for Aaron Nola, just like other free agent pursuits in the past. Just like Cole, Seager and Harper. Now I always thought Nola wanted to stay in Philly, but the Dodgers again fell short in the bidding. Hey, we’re the Dodgers. It’s what we do.

    Maybe this year will be different, but probably not.

    No matter the Dodgers will land Lucas Giolito or Flaherty. No Snell or Montgomery. Honestly I don’t want them to sign either one. Maybe Friedman makes a trade for Dylan Cease. Or another starter.

    No big deal. The Dodgers will still win a hundred games and the NL West. They will use Walker Buehler and their young pitchers and free agent pitching projects to fill the stadium with nearly four million fans. Signing JD Martinez will solve the DH. They have the hitters and the bullpen, all they really need is to land Cease and have a couple of the projects regain form.

    Now Friedman might come out of the chute swinging and nail a big deal or two. He pointed out a lot of things are beginning to come together. Sounds like trade jargon. Or the meeting with Shohei went well. Some of this could happen in Nashville or a few days later, he indicated.

    But don’t fret the Dodgers will still be good, likely very good. But probably without signing the Unicorn or the best Japanese pitcher. Such is life in LA, lots of hype, expectations and a letdown.

  53. dodger dadDecember 3, 2023

    good morning! i , like thousands of other dodger fans wake up today knowing just as much today as we did this time last week! it’s probably a 40 percent chance AF signs ohthani. it could all depend on how. badly he wants to be a dodger. if he doesn’t , i hope he resigns with the angels or the blue jays. keep him out of the NL! a fan for 60 years earns my right to wish! if not ohthani then who? i still say hoskins is a good choice. he doesn’t have to play a position, he can dh . i also believe either vargas or busch ends up traded this week. i guess the best option would be to keep vargas. i think he can be a better 3rd baseman than Busch. if muncy gets injured. But! if mookie stays in right busch could be a really good 2nd baseman, especially since his arm doesn’t seem to be as strong as vargas’s. Adamas is interesting at short, but that .214 average last year! that would give them 2 players on the left side of the infield with sub .225 averages! i know , Max is an on base “machine “ . but still a concern. oh well, just my opinions and they don’t mean squat! next few days will be exciting for some teams, and not so much for others. we cou be pirates, rockies, tigers, oakland, or royals fans. no disrespect meant but they ain’t spending! this time next week,we’ll be overjoyed, slightly satisfied, or plain disappointed! but opening day we’ll be in our dodger blue cheering them on. which i plan to do till i no longer can! baseball is the greatest game on earth! oh by the way, i told y’all few weeks ago to beware of Alabama. got a sneaky suspicion they get bumped up into the playoffs! probably not right , but it might happen. college basketball really heating up! great , can’t stand NBA anymore! a Bronco fan, (not much of Russ Wilson fan) so that’s kind of neat watching Sean Payton do his thing. hope everyone has a great week! going to Charlotte tomorrow for stem cell injections on my knee! can’t wait! still playing basketball, and doctor said in a few weeks i’m gonna be running around again!

  54. Andrew Vincent ForteDecember 3, 2023

    Carlos Rodon was a bad Yankee signing. It was well known he had an injury history before he was signed. The Yankees will suffer with his contract for 6 more years. Brian Cashman has made numerous mistakes signing pitchers except Gerrit Cole.

  55. Andrew Vincent ForteDecember 3, 2023

    I don’t agree that Andrew will have the final decision in Ohtoni. it will be the ownership group’s final decision and for how long and how much. Ohtoni is all about Return on Investment and his immense talent. Look for opt outs in the contract when officially signed.

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