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Mixed Emotions

My definition of “ Mixed Emotions ” is “ seeing your mother-in-law drive over a cliff in your new Rolls Royce.” If you had told me a couple of months ago that the Dodgers would spend $1.1 BILLION DOLLARS on two players this Winter, I would have said that you were out of your…

By Mark Timmons3 min readJump to 128 comments

My definition of “Mixed Emotions” is “seeing your mother-in-law drive over a cliff in your new Rolls Royce.” If you had told me a couple of months ago that the Dodgers would spend $1.1 BILLION DOLLARS on two players this Winter, I would have said that you were out of your rabbit-ass mind! Furthermore, if I would have said that it makes perfect sense, I would have volunteered to enter a mental health facility.

But, the Dodgers did spend $1. Billion on Showtime and Yamamojo! Baseball fans hated the Yankees and George Steinbrenner (who called them the “Evil Empire”) for their ruthless spending. Georgie Boy can’t hold a candle to the Ruthless Dodgers… with Walter, Kasten, and Friedman at the helm.

This was planned… several years ago. The Dodgers were playing the long game while everyone else was running from base to base. The Yoshinobu Yamamoto signing AFTER the signing of Shoehei Ohtani is epic, and (in retrospect), I believe that Andrew Friedman had a blank check for both. The Dodgers knew what they wanted, they knew that the marketing juice would be worth the squeeze, and they made up their mind to do whatever it took.

What happens next is anyone’s guess, but I do not believe it will involve gutting the farm and trading a bunch of prospects for Burnes, Adames, Cease, or Robert, Jr. The Dodgers could go ahead and sign Imanaga, so they have a lefty in the rotation, but I also think they will get Clayton Kershaw back in the summer, so there may not be a need.

At any rate, acquiring the two superstars worth a Billion Dollars was premeditated and only cost about $1 Million Dollars in International Money and two draft picks. If the Dodgers want to keep this roll alive, it is important that they be able to bring along the depth that the farm system offers. As the team stands right about now, it is pretty damn good. Now, it will be up to the kids to fill in as needed. I am talking Pages, Busch, Vargas, Cartaya, Rushing, Fernandez, De Paula, George, Gelof, Vargas, Liranzo, and Sweeney on the offensive side and Frasso, Stone, Ryan, Knack, Martin, Hurt, Kopp, Bruns, and others on the pitching side.

Not all will make the Show. Some will fizzle out. There will be few or no superstars, but there will be some very good role players, and pitchers come from that bunch over the next 3-5 years. The farm system has to be a priority, and maybe there will be a trade or two, but I think that unlike many other teams who win and then tank, the Dodgers’ plan is to dominate year after year and do what they just did makes it highly sustainable.

Rather than make a big trade that costs prospects (player collateral), I would sign Shōta Imanaga and be done. Of course, the teams who lost out to Yamamoto will likely bid up Imanaga’s market, so that may not be easy! As it stands right now, here is the rotation:

  1. Yamamoto (ACE)
  2. Glasnow (there – he is not an Ace)
  3. Buehler (former Ace)
  4. Miller (Ace-in-waiting)
  5. Sheehan
  6. Knack
  7. Stone
  8. Kershaw (August – former Ace)

I think Landon Knack will surprise everyone this year, whether it is with the Dodgers or not.

Oh, What a Night…

Late December back in 23’…

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  1. BobbyDecember 22, 2023

    100%. There is ZERO need to go idiotic and trade a bunch of young, cheap, talented assets for 1 year of Burnes and/or Adames.

    My pick to click and grab that #5 job and stay in the rotation for the next 10 years is Emmet Sheehan.

    We have until July to figure out if we need another arm, another SS, or an outfield bat who is actually allowed to play every day.

    For now, let’s celebrate the fact that our team is trying super hard to get us a championship (or 4)

  2. CassidyDecember 22, 2023

    WOW!!!!!! Now those are some pretty nice Christmas presents under our Dodger tree!!!!

  3. MushersPopDecember 22, 2023

    Given Ohtani’s contract deferrals, it seemed the Dodgers needed to sign Yamamoto as a sign of good faith. Glad to see the Dodgers didn’t miss out.

  4. CassidyDecember 22, 2023

    I still feel a big trade is coming. We have too much young depth of talent for everyone to play. Package 3-4 good young prospects for one star player. Wouldn’t Robert jr look good in CF and batting 4th!

  5. dodgerramDecember 22, 2023

    Who will be the opening day pitcher ?

    Miller or Yamamoto ?

    IMHO Miller deserves it because he stepped up big time last season when the Dodgers needed him most after all those other starters went down with the injury bug.

    Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. MushersPopDecember 22, 2023

    Shelby Miller is signing with the Tigers.

  7. JohnnyGentleDecember 22, 2023

    Give Gavin Stone the #5 job.

  8. EricDecember 22, 2023

    Yamamoto was the #1 PRIZE all along, not Ohtani. Good pitching beats good hitting in the playoffs and we don’t know if Ohtani will pitch at the level he did before. With that said, the Dodgers needed both of them and I’m glad the Dodgers got both of them.

    Now, it’s time to let the homegrown pitching have their chance. If the Dodgers are planning on going with a 6 man rotation, then go get Imanaga. Do not trade the homegrown pitching for another starting pitcher.

    I think it would benefit the Dodgers to go with a 6 man starting rotation for 3 reasons.

    1) Less wear and tear on Glasnow and Buehler.

    2) Imanaga will be an insurance policy for the playoffs if something happens to 1 of the 2 pitchers above.

    3) It will still allow Miller and Sheehan to be in the starting rotation.

  9. IdahoalDecember 22, 2023

    I would like to see a 6 man rotation to save some arms. Buehler, Yamamoto and Kershaw, I hope, need extra rest. We are forgetting Grove. Let Grove, Sheehan, Stone or whoever fight it out for the 5-6 spots.

    The Dodgers better go far in the playoffs or Roberts can kiss his rear good bye.

    Let Busch and Vargas fight it out for LF or platoon. I am ready for ST.

  10. OldDodgerNutDecember 22, 2023

    Anxious to see how he pitches with MLB baseballs compared to the “stickier” ball used in Japan. I would think that he’s used them before, maybe in the WBC?

  11. sbuffaloDecember 22, 2023

    If you had written that a few months ago, Mark, everyone would have thought you were definitely crazy. Poor Mark went off the rails and the crash wasn’t pretty. Now you’re simply sitting here trying to wrap your mind around what just happened and how quickly it took place.

    I’m not surprised about signing Ohtani, the Dodgers were preparing to land him, then focused on the opportunities offered on the international market to gain new revenue streams through sponsorships and advertising. It’s an incredibly rich market, the Angels had only scratched the surface.

    Only Shohei makes that possible because he is a true international star and attraction. But he’s also very astute and when he proposed how his deal would be structured, it opened the door to endless possibilities for the Dodgers. No other team could take full advantage of all this. First the team is iconic and SoCal is the gateway to Asia and Japan.

    They are now the biggest financial power in baseball and worth far more than the Yankees or anyone else.

    Not only can they pay Ohtani’s contract and the money they need to set aside through sponsorships and advertising annually, but they can invest that money into the investment market and end up making as much as a $1.5 billion beyond the $680 million investment over the next 10 years.

    Oh, and it’s not just international companies wanting to join the the sponsorship and advertising train, but American companies doing business in Japan. Who knows knows more about all this than Mark Walter and Guggenheim.

    This places the Dodgers on another level. As several baseball writers, sports finance experts and insiders have pointed out the Dodgers are now the financial kings of the game, reaching an unprecedented level that no one thought possible a few weeks ago.

    True to their word, the Dodgers immediately made a trade and signed a really good pitcher in Glasnow. If he’s healthy and I think he’s passed the stage where he was having repeated issues due to an unidentified or untreated physical problem.

    Now they’ve invested in the best Japanese pitcher from Japan, who is both young and dominant.

    The making of a super team. Will the Dodgers continue to add. Maybe here and there, but why waste prospects on Burnes, a one and done, pitcher. He has openly said he’s wants to be a free agent.

    Maybe they explore a Cease deal or maybe not. Perhaps they could use a right handed hitter. But this is a pretty good team as it now stands. Likely Kershaw returns at some point this summer.

    Of course, the howls of anguish will come. Baseball needs a salary cap. Funny, no one seemed overly concerned when the Braves, the DBacks and and the Rays made it to the big stage. Other than cheating no one is concerned about the Astros becoming the next version of the old Yankees.

    In fact the biggest concern has been the division winners not making it the World Series, many thinking it had to do about layoffs and the current playoff format.

    But the Dodgers have reached a whole new level of scary for the rest of baseball. Not only can they match the Steve Cohen’s dollars, but they are proving to be a much more desirable location than New York. The Yankees status not enough to sway Yamamoto.

    The biggest stage in baseball is in LA. Think of what it feels like to be a Giants fan today. Farhan Zaidi might have to lead the Giants in another direction since not many high profile players seem interested in San Francisco.

    Is this good for baseball? Absolutely. Baseball fans need some team to root against. That was the Yankees of yesteryear. They even got their own Broadway play and movie, Damn Yankees.

    Shohei Ohtani is the new face of the game and the already highly successful Dodgers are on the verge of becoming a super team. Merry Christmas, Dodgers fans.

  12. BlutoDecember 22, 2023

    This probably goes without saying, but I’m taking after some of the new posters here.

    There is a real Sliding Doors moment here with Urias’ domestic abuse situation and the May/Gonsolin injuries.

    I doubt we would see the Dodgers as aggressive if 2/3 of the above didn’t happen.

    But, still Ohtani.

  13. WillismDecember 22, 2023

    As someone who has been vocal in expressing my disappointment in what I saw as the Dodgers’ general unwillingness to step up and go all-in to win titles, I am very excited about the signings of Ohtanii and Yamamoto, particularly the latter, which was the extra step the Dodgers usually didn’t, or couldn’t (in the case of Cole)) take.

    Maj;pr League Baseball is simply not the game I grew up with, but if you want to win big, you have to adapt to the times. The Dodgers were pretty much inept in Brooklyn, until Larry Macphail took over, and then hired Branch Rickey. Rickey built the farm system, and hired and taught some of the best baseball minds around. Bavasi, Thompson. Campanis, Wade. The Yankees had more money, but the Dodgers had the baseball brains.

    This kept the Dodgers on top of the National League for much of two decades. But over time, people left, other franchises got smarter and more dedicated. The Dodgers had many winning seasons, but the Braves dominated the regular seasons in the ’90’s, and the Red Sox built a powerhouse, as did the Astros, cheating as well.

    The Dodgers had a very bad and greedy owner. He was replaced by very smart business people who earned record profits, but won only one title, in a 60-game regular season. It looked to me as if this would continue; the Dodgers having very good regular seasons, failing in the playoffs;; cleanest stadium, promotions, etc. but mostly pomp and show.

    Somehow, that changed in a few weeks. Ohtani one could have expected, he will make the ownership a fortune. But to then obtain Yamamoto, going against financial powerhouse teams, is remarkable. Everything I read about Yamamoto is that he can be a great pitcher, which was desperately needed if the Dodgers were going to try to win multiple titles.

    Of course there is no guarantee; there are many other franchises which use the same metrics, and will spend big. But the Dodgers are major players now, maybe top of the line. We still have some holes, but now we see a determination to fill them, and that we are going to really try to win titles. Of course the ownership will make a lot of money, that was always the goal. But now, at least for now, the Dodgers are determined to win titles, which is all one has wanted out of this storied franchise.

  14. CassidyDecember 22, 2023

    Everyone hates us now. Perhaps this spending was all a smokescreen so now we can bring Bauer back!

  15. dodgerpatchDecember 22, 2023

    Do the Dodgers need Yamamoto? They probably don’t, but man, it does make things a lot easier. There are very few sure bets when it comes to signing players, especially pitchers, but Yamamoto is about as close as you can get. He’s young and just really beginning his career, which makes him a better long-term value than Cole or Verlander or deGrom. He might not have that ceiling, but he’ll be a reliable fixture in the rotation for the next several years, and and mitigates some uncertainty anxiety around Buehler’s and Ohtani’s effectiveness after arm surgery, Glasnow’s fragility and age, Miller’s unrealized potential, Kershaw’s pending retirement, and the question marks around May, Gonsolin, Sheehan, etc.

    The only thing that gives me pause is his size. He’s like 175 and reaches the high 90s with his fastball. I heard someone make a comparison to Tim Lincecum and cringed a little.

    Still, I read comments here about going after Burnes. LOL! Give it a rest, already.

    The dilemma next year is what to do with all of these pitchers?

    Ohtani

    Yamamoto

    Glasnow

    Buehler

    Kershaw

    Miller

    May

    Gonsolin

    Sheehan

    Stone

    Knack

    Frasso

    etc.

    I think they let Buehler walk.

  16. dodgerramDecember 22, 2023

    I do not see Clayton helping much in 2024 and I do no see him in 2025 at all.

    couple of those prospects should be used to bring in Luzardo or a big RH bat for LF.

    Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. CassidyDecember 22, 2023

    What does a Busch/Vargas platoon OPS look like in LF next year? Much rather see them than Taylor.

  18. QuasimodoDecember 22, 2023

    Is a new dress code mandatory at the ravine? Looks like any seat will be out my range going forward. I’m beyond shocked.

  19. Dodgers716December 22, 2023

    Seeing some chatter that Dodgers are talking with Guardians about Emmanual Clase.

  20. MattDecember 22, 2023

    You must be a joy at parties….

  21. BlutoDecember 22, 2023

    First of all, the Alaska acquisition was done before oil was discovered.

    Second, the only reason the Louisiana Purchase was cheap was because of a little domestic issue called The French Revolution extending to Haiti.

    Thirdly, Animal Farm is an allegory about political utopias and Socialism. Not Social Darwinism. Perhaps you meant Huxley or Sinclair?

  22. Jorge ValenzuelaDecember 22, 2023

    6-man rotation? That’s assuming there will be 6 pitchers available.

    6-man rotation? That’s assuming there will be 6 healthy pitchers.

    6-man rotation? That’s assuming they’ll be good enough to at least pitch 5 innings.

    And when there is a day off, it will be practically a week since the last call to the mound, it will be difficult to get into the rhythm.

    But hopefully this is the case and the Dodgers have a good enough lineup to score enough runs and win, it’s good that they have a good closer…

    By the way, who will be the closer?

    I completely forgot his name

  23. Jorge ValenzuelaDecember 22, 2023

    I know that won’t happen, but could one more season with Julio Irías (to reestablish his name and image) be possible? I understand that for now, Dodgers or any of you don’t even want to hear his name, but he will be back some day, and it is better to have him for you than against you.

  24. dodger dadDecember 22, 2023

    wow! i guess im happy. overall i think it’s great for dodgers, but i dont know how good it is for the game as a whole. now lots of small market teams are screaming its not fair. a lot of these teams aren’t competitive because of owners who won’t spend. the baltimore orioles have a hell of a team, and an owner who doesn’t want to spend. and make it a top tier team . the game is healthy ! and just because the dodgers spent a billion dollars, don’t guarantee them squat! i still believe the braves top to bottom have the best lineup in baseball as i write this. and if they add a cease or burnes, they are right there with any rotation in baseball! and then there’s the giants! nobody will take their money, enough said. san diego? all their superstars didn’t add up to jack sh-t ! if george steinbrenner were alive, he would not have been outbid by anyone! big money didn’t work for the mets did it? cubs fired their manager and haven’t improved on a team that didn’t make the playoffs! as i said the other day, the guy hasn’t thrown a single pitch in mlb, so we’ll see. now of course i want the dodgers to win! if they don’t win it all, they will be labeled as choke artists. if they do win it , money ball screams all across baseball! that outfield is lacking, no matter what the experts say! i would like a good every day left fielder. if not, dump rojas and dign Whitt Merrifield. Taylor can play all over, so can Merrifield. i’m holding my breath and crossing my fingers that they aren’t done improving that roster.

  25. Watford DodgerDecember 22, 2023

    I’m personally not a massive fan of all the platoons we use, particularly in the Outfield, but can see the advantages of it.

    However I think it’s safe to say that our Outfield mix is potentially the weakest part of our roster currently.

    A small trade that might improve things could be with the CWS for Left Fielder Andrew Benintendi. A Gold Glover, with good on base skills, good base running stats and a reasonable contract for 4 more seasons at a good age of 29.

    The Sox are definitely in a tear down and couldn’t be keen to get out from under his salary. A former 1st round draft pick in 16 (we like them), I think he’d act as a nice Table Setter, either hitting 9th, or possibly between Shohei and Freddie.

    Mookie 2B

    Sho DH

    Benintendi LF

    Freddie 1B

    Max 3B

    Will C

    Outman CF

    Heyward RF

    Lux SS

    The only negative for me is he’s a lefty

    Maybe could be included in a Cease deal?

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