Lafayette Fresco Thompson, Father of the Dodgers Modern Farm System
Some of you posters on here are too young to remember Fresco Thompson, but those of us who were brought up with the Dodgers of the 19 50s and 1960s were treated to his handiwork for many years. And so were some fans in the 70s. When he died of cancer in late 1968, his last draft class would make a huge impact on Dodger teams for the next decade and

Some of you posters on here are too young to remember Fresco Thompson, but those of us who were brought up with the Dodgers of the 19’50s and 1960s were treated to his handiwork for many years. And so were some fans in the ’70s. When he died of cancer in late 1968, his last draft class would make a huge impact on Dodger teams for the next decade and beyond.
Lafayette Fresco Thompson was born in Centreville, Alabama on June 6, 1902. His father, Lafayette Sr. was named by his paternal grandmother. She found the name Fresco in a Scottish novel she had read. His father worked his way up and eventually became an executive with the JC Penny stores. They lived in Chicago for a while, then in 1916, they moved to New York City.
Thompson went to school at George Washington high and he was captain of the New York City baseball champions. He then went to Columbia University in NY to play baseball and football. A 5’6″ quarterback on the football team, he was dwarfed by the team’s fullback, 6’2″ 200 plus Lou Gehrig. Thompson really was not interested in school, as he had his eye set on playing pro baseball, and he flunked out before he could join Gehrig on the baseball field. No pro scout was interested in signing him. So he wrote letters and finally got a response from a Class-D league team in Grand Island Nebraska.
They offered him a job if he paid his own bus fare. So in 1923, he joined them as their second baseman. In 1925 he got his first taste of the majors when he was called up to the Pirates in September. They sent him back to the minors after the season. In September 1926, he was brought up by the Giants for a short time, and despite going 5-8, John McGraw traded him to Philadelphia that winter.
Thompson, who was getting recognized as quite the witty fellow said ” Well, the guy they replaced me with was no slouch.” His replacement? Rogers Hornsby. The next 4 years in Philadelphia with the Phil’s he would describe as 4 years of living death. Their home park, Baker Field, was considered a comical excuse for a baseball park. The RF wall was 279 feet away. The park made Chuck Klein a Hall of Famer, and Thompson a .300 hitter. Burt Shotton, the Phillie skipper, who would have his own place in Dodger history later, named him captain. He was the team’s holler guy. Once a teammate saw him gargling with mouthwash and explained he was just getting in shape for the game.

As captain of the team, he would deliver the lineup to the plate prior to the game. Once he presented umpire Bill Klem a lineup and it showed P. Willoughby and others. Klem accused him of making a travesty of the game, Thompson replied, not me, but our pitchers are. Thompson himself was not much help to the Phillie hurlers, finishing 1st or 2nd in errors his entire 4 years with the Phil’s.
After the 1930 season, where the Phil’s lost 102 games despite a team BA of .302, he was traded to Brooklyn along with Lefty O’Doul. That spring he was given a locker next to slugger Babe Herman. Herman complained, ” What’s the idea of me dressing next to a .250 hitter”.?Thompson replied, “How do you think I feel dressing next to a .250 fielder?

One writer for the Brooklyn Eagle said the new 2nd baseman would liven up the Brooklyn infield. Thompson never got the chance. Wilbert Robinson, the manager hated the trade because it cost one of his favorite pitchers, Jumbo Elliot, and saddled him with the excellent hitting, but lead gloved O’Doul. That gave him two real defensive liabilities in the outfield, Herman and O’Doul. It was said at the time that CF Jimmy Fredrick would need a motorcycle to cover the ground they could not.
Resigned to the bench most of the time, Robbie played holdover 2nd baseman, Neal Finn most of the time. After the 1931 season ended, Thompson started his tour of the high minors. In 1938 he began managing and made many stops until towards the end of WWII, he was hired as an assistant to Dodger farm director, Branch Rickey Jr, and doubled as a troubleshooter and scout for Rickey Sr.
He would later say that he had a concentrated baseball education at the tutelage of a master. In 1950, Walter O’Malley bought Rickey out and took control of the team. A lot of his brain trust in the front office went with him to Pittsburgh. But Thompson and Buzzie Bavasi stayed. Most papers thought that O’Malley would name Thompson the GM, but what Walter did was give Bavasi control of the two AAA teams and the parent club roster, and he gave Thompson control of the other two dozen Dodger farm teams and scouting. They were both executive VP’s, but neither held the GM title.
The message was clear, O’Malley was the final word on everything. Walt set a budget and trusted his VP’s to stay within the guidelines and oversee all baseball matters. And to his credit, O’Malley listened to both of them and sometimes took their advice. He listened and heeded Bavasi’s suggestion that he hire an unknown to manage the team after they cut ties with Charlie Dressen in 1953, so Walter Alston took over the job in 1954.
All of them worked on 1-year contracts. O’Malley was pretty cheap when it came to paying, but he offered a pension plan, and profit-sharing to members of the front office, a practice which at that time was unheard of in baseball. On Thompson’s watch, the Dodgers had more ROY’s than any other organization in baseball, FIVE. Joe Black, Jim Gilliam, Frank Howard, Jim Lefebvre, and Ted Sizemore.
His scouts found Koufax, Drysdale and Sutton, Hall of Famers all. As I stated earlier, he was well known for his wit, he said of Willie Davis that he was so fast he could beat out a pop fly. When a young player complained he was hitting just under the ball, Thompson suggested putting lifts in his shoes. A mediocre player himself, he became a huge hit on the banquet circuit. His wife had a great sense of humor too, when an advertisement in a local paper said that he agreed to speak, she commented, “Agrees to Speak? That’s the greatest understatement I have ever heard“.
He was with Rickey who was complaining because, with the war, it was impossible to get a new car with everyone making tanks and planes, Rickey said he wanted to get a new Ford. Thompson replied I want a Cadillac. Rickey asked, how can you afford a Cadillac on your salary? Thompson replied, “If I have to go without a car, I would rather it be a Cadillac rather than a Ford. “
Many thought he would go with Rickey to the Pirates, but he stayed. It was said then that all the Protestants went to Pittsburgh and the Catholics stayed in Brooklyn. There was also at the time, a lot of anti-Catholic sentiment in the borough of Brooklyn, and it was one of the underlying reasons that the Dodgers eventually moved to Los Angeles. But that is a tale for another time.
The Boys of Summer were Rickey’s team. In the winter of 1957, baseball got rid of the bonus rule, the rule that made the Dodgers keep Koufax on the roster for two years, and was responsible for them losing Roberto Clemente in the Rule 5 draft in 1954. Thompson and Bavasi convinced O’Malley to open his wallet, and over the next 2 years, they signed more than 100 players, including Ron Fairly, Willie Davis, and Frank Howard.
During the Rickey years, they looked for certain skills in players, and if they did not see them they passed. Mays, Banks, Rizzuto, Greenburg, and Whitey Ford were deemed lacking in some ways, so you can see the system was not perfect. Later Thompson felt that a player needed at least 4 years in the minors, but the Dodgers did not always adhere to that, with the likes of Tommy Davis, Don Drysdale, Don Sutton, and Willie Davis earning promotions to the bigs before 4 years with the system. I
n the 50s and early 60’s with Reese and then Wills holding down the SS position, former Dodgers SS’s were spread around the league, Chico Carrasquel, Chico Fernandez, Bob Lillis, Bobby Morgan, Don Zimmer. and Billy Hunter. The system was also the breeding ground for some managers, Gene Mauch, Gil Hodges, Don Zimmer, Sparky Anderson, and Dick Williams. Roger Craig would later join that list.
Thompson and Bavasi, thinking Dodger Stadium would be ready by 1960 had begun to build the team based on pitching and speed, but playing the coliseum, that total overhaul would have to wait. Craig, Wills, and Sherry, 3 who were not rated very high were key contributors to the 59 Championship team, and so the rebuild began. By the time they moved into Dodger Stadium in 1962, about the only holdover from Rickey’s leadership was Duke Snider.
Gilliam was still there, but he was part of Thompson’s watch. By 1963 the Dodgers farm system had shrunk from 24 to 8. The Rickey mantra of quality out of quantity was no longer valid, and with all the reduced roster spots it was not possible for him to keep players in the system as they had done previously. Maury Wills, who had spent 8 years in the minors, or Roger Craig who was trying to come back from a sore arm would have not been kept.
Thompson also believed the new generation of players were not willing to spend long years of service in the minor leagues. He felt they would move on if they did not move up fast enough. Like many others of his time, he also did not think the new guys were as tough as the old ones. He said that a bad case of dandruff would put a player on the shelf for several days. Bavasi and Thompson worked together for 18 years in apparent harmony.
That ended in 1968 when Bavasi was granted permission to become part owner and GM of the expansion San Diego Padres. Thompson, at the age of 66 was named GM. 3 months later he became ill with cancer. He underwent 3 operations, one to remove a kidney. He died on November 20, 1968.
But his imprint would remain for years. He was succeeded by Al Campanis, another Rickey hire who would run the team for the next 19 years. There would be 15 players from the last draft he supervised who would later play in the major leagues. Bobby Valentine, Steve Garvey, Bill Buckner, Davey Lopes, Sandy Vance, Ron Cey, Joe Ferguson, Mike Pazik, Geoff Zahn, Tom Paciorek, Bob Randall, Ed Crosby, Doyle Alexander, Bob Gallagher, Ed Ott, and Bob Sheldon. Of those, Lopes and Valentine have had stints as managers in the majors. Thompson was a vital part of building the image of the Dodgers in Los Angeles.

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Discussion (105)
Disagree, not disagreeable
Well, very disappointing game. Could not get the key hit and the pitching was bad too. Will be interesting to see how this next 10 days before the trade deadling play out. It could be already make or breakt time for the Dodgers. Should they lose 4-5 of the next 6 games to the Giants they could dig themself a pretty big hole already.
To be honest I fear this is not our year. too many injuries to key players. too many guys not playing up to their ability and to top it off the Bauer situation. It is astounding that this team still is among the top 5 in wins in all of baseball.
Shows how talented and deep the Dodgers are.
I hope Gray has a good game tonight and gives the Dodgers a shot in the arm (no vaccs) that is desperately needed.
I would also call up Ruiz finally.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lefty’s in the pen are Gonzalez, Vesia, Alexander, and Nunez. I do not think they need any more lefty’s. As bad as Gonsolin was, the bullpen put the game out of reach. Over their last 2 games they have given up 7 earned runs. I do think Roberts made a mistake pulling Bickford when he did. He had gotten an out and gave up a hit, but he was pitching well. Roberts went with the percentages and Gonzalez kept throwing cookies. Bickford had gotten out of Alexander’s mess, and I would have let him finish the inning. The other thing was that the offense had Gausman on the ropes in the first and second innings and let him off of the hook. After Bellinger walked in the and Smith was hit, they had 2 on and one out. Beaty hit a screaming liner towards left that Flores made a great play on, and then Reks struck out. In the second, McKinstry hits a leadoff double, and neither Gonsolin, who looks like a terrible bunter, or Taylor, who struck out could get him to third. Muncy walked, Turner walked and Smith struck out on a pitch right down the middle. After that, the offense was totally impotent. One good thing I saw was Bellinger making hard contact on a line drive out to left. He does that more often, he is going to get some hits. Otherwise, very forgettable game. But it was only the first of 7 with the Giants over the next 10 days. At the end of that time, we should have a pretty good idea where they stand going into the last 2 months. The trading deadline is the day after the Giants series, and they will be playing Arizona. They have 3 with the Rocks in between
Hey, that Jake McGee guy is doing pretty well for the Giants….
Remember how the Dodgers were looking for another lefty reliever. Where the hell did the Giants find McGee? Name seems familiar…
OK, snark aside, I’m hoping AF gets in gear.
–An SP is critical. Even if Bauer comes back, it seems like Buhler and Urias are now the most reliable arms left. Kershaw is fragile, Gonsolin is shaky, Price needs to buildup…. plus, Urias , especially, is in danger of being overworked.
–A proven bat would help a lot. The continuing struggles of Belli and Lux, and the uncertainty with Seager, should inspire a deal for someone to bolster the lineup. Gosh, maybe they could even find a guy with a good bat AND glove!
–A top-flight RP would be nice, but Nelson and Knebel should help soon. AF loves him multiple BP options so this would be no surprise. But I’d aim for true impact arm.
Somebody like McGee would be nice…
Just got home from another disgusting game at the ballpark. I didn’t have a good feeling when I saw the horrible lineup that Roberts gave us. Where was Pollack? Why is it taking Seager nearly 10 weeks to come back from a fracture of his little pinkie? Why does Roberts continue to pull relievers that are pitching well? I have always questioned his management of the pitching staff….just seems to be harder to understand why he continues to screw things up and is one of the main reasons for our record in the close games.
HEADLINE: BATTERED DODGERS LIMP TO LOSS . Giants Roll Over Ailing Dodgers.
If Tommy Lasorda would have seen those dodger players laughing and joking in the ninth-inning, he would’ve had their ass. You shouldn’t be laughing and joking in the ninth inning when you just got pounded by your rivals
V-gone sucks but someone here will make an excuse. Just came off IL, he’ll be ok, yada yada yada.
It’s the big leagues got to get it done and when you don’t you get sent down. Looking for him to get sent down and someone get called up for another BP game.
Oh by the way Gonsolin not too impressive either. AF work some magic and get us some SP
Holy cow this is the worst that I have ever seen Gonzalez pitch.
Am I seeing things or has Bellinger changed his approach at the plate?
I can’t blame Robert’s he has to pitch the guys he has. Bullpen here we go!!
Gonsolin just can’t keep u in a big game. Has no command. Be lucky to last 3 innings. Blowing the game yesterday and having Gonsolin game 1. As I said earlier this team just lacks the winning edge can’t get over the hump. If I could get another pitcher for Gonsolin I would trade him. It’s not just this game he just has no command has lost his fastball and can’t stay healthy. This will b another bullpen game.
The giant killer strikes again. Yeah I know
Well, that sucked!
This is a crap lineup to open the series. Trying to go two down.
What’s up with Pollock not starting? Anyone know?
Mookie scratched.
Reks replacing him in the lineup.
JoJo Gray is on the field at Dodger Stadium.
I assume they brought him up to pitch tomorrow and not to replace Roger the Peanut Man.
Only question is whether he’ll start or Doc will use an opener and then bring him in.
Lux to the 10 day IL with a hammy strain, Reks recalled. Gray is with the team and has been added to the taxi squad.
Todays starting lineup. Betts, RF, Muncy, 1B, Turner, 3B, Smith, C, Bellinger, CF. Taylor, SS. Beaty, LF, McKinstry, 2B. Gonsolin, P.
I thought a couple of comments by kershaw were interesting:
Elbow has never bothered him
He needs to stay out longer to be ready for the playoffs
I am paraphrasing on both
Elbow could be because he is throwing 50 percent sliders
A fine time to layoff with the rotation needing him more than ever. There may not b any playoff. Having said that he should be off until he is healthy.
I would not make any serious moves at the trade deadline. We have the players just get healthy. For some reason we just can’t seem to get over the hump. Plug one leak and another springs open. We need to compete against the Giants but realistically how. Muncy possibly out, Taylor back in strikeout mode, Betts can’t stay healthy, Seager out way longer than normal, turner can’t field, bellinger well u know, bullpen game bullpen game bullpen game…., poor d, just things keep cropping up that we can’t get over the hump. The giants are in a much better position to win the series. Smith is hot so doc will probably play Barnes, pollock has been superb. He is a streak hitter can he keep the streak going? Gonsolin could pitch 5 or not make it out of the first. I know we have the second best record or close so there is that.
I have been calling for pitching for a couple of months. AF answered by flooding us with relief pitchers. At this point we might as well go with white,price, gray, or all our bullpen guys. We have options now on our team we didn’t have a month ago. Scherzer is about the best option but he can’t beat San Diego and he would probably just get hurt. Just stand pat AF and we can either win or lose with what we have. Hopefully, we will overcome but every time we get close another injury or poor play stops us cold. The giants are catching us like the pads did.
The fan who hit Verdugo in the back at Yankee Stadium has been banned for life from attending games by MLB. Verdugo had tossed a ball to a young Red Sox fan, but it was intercepted by a Yankee fan who fired it back on the field and hit Verdugo. Their manager, Boone said the entire incident was embarrassing and uncalled for. Behavior like that will not be tolerated at Yankee Stadium. Yeah Badger, the prices at Dodger Stadium have kept rising the last several years and are way beyond my pay grade anymore. But they still get 40,000 plus every night. And the place will be packed for this series, especially with a Buehler bobblehead give away.
Dodger-Giant pitching matchups:
Tonight – Gausman vs Gonsolin (advantage Giants)
Tues – Wood vs TBD (whomever it is, probably advantage Giants)
Wed – Webb vs Urias (we would probably all agree that Julio is the better pitcher but Webb has the lower ERA)
Thurs – DeSclafani vs Buehler (Buehler is the better pitcher but it’s not a huge advantage and they both have 10 wins)
We need to come into these games wanting to win more than they do.
Put hits together.
No sloppy fielding.
Take advantage of the home crowd.
I agree about Cody and stepping in the bucket. I’ve always questioned his his preload. Too much needs to get done between that and contact. There are remedies for everything you mentioned phil. Will he do any of them? He hasn’t yet. If we can see these things, you know hitting instructors must. Looks to me like all they are telling him is keep swinging, it will come back.
Oklahoma AAA success doesn’t appear to be translating to the show Bear.
Yesterday at OKC, they lost 10-3 to Reno. DJ Peters went 4-4, and Matt Davison hit his 13th HR. Graterol got rocked in 1/3rd of an inning for 4 runs, all of them earned and got the loss. White pitched 5 innings of 1 run baseball, and stuck out 9. His ERA is now 1.42. On Saturday they hung a loss of Zack Lee. Yep, same guy they traded for Chris Taylor. Davidson and Peters are hot, Peters has a 10 game hitting streak and has raised his average to .242. Davison hit his 9th HR in the last two weeks.
Giants hitters do not have a HR off of Gonsolin. Dodger hitters have 6 off of Gausman. Cody should sit, he is hitting .163 against the RH> Betts, 3, Muncy 2 and Turner own the dingers. Former Dodger pitcher, Jose DeLeon DFA’d by the Reds.