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Just What the Dodgers Don't Need: More Pitching…

We have hashed and re-hashed the state-of-the Dodger’s pitching for what seems like a hundred years when it has only been a few weeks. I have maintained that the Dodgers do not need another starter, as that starter blocks Pepiot, Stone, and Miller. However, when a player wants…

By Mark Timmons3 min read19 comments

We have hashed and re-hashed the state-of-the Dodger’s pitching for what seems like a hundred years when it has only been a few weeks. I have maintained that the Dodgers do not need another starter, as that starter blocks Pepiot, Stone, and Miller. However, when a player wants to be a Dodger and takes less money than you would expect on a short-term deal, what are you going to do?

Andrew Friedman did the only thing he could do – he signed Noah Syndergaard to a $13 Million Dollar deal with some additional incentives. That’s the last time I will call him Noah! In case you don’t know, they call him Thor! We can speculate all we want, but it does seem that he is coming to the Dodgers much like Andrew Heaney and Tyler Anderson did: He is taking a 1-year deal in hopes of being “fixed” like they were. He is still only 30 years old and could possibly sign a four or five-year deal next off-season if Mark Prior and Company can do the Voo-Doo that they Doo on Thor.

While he is a RH thrower, he is one of those weirdos who bats LH! His velocity has dropped 3 to 5 MPH from his peak years when he threw 101 MPH, but I saw him hit 98 last year, and the Dodgers have a history of helping pitchers re-capture lost velocity. MLBTR predicted that Syndergaard would be able to secure a three-year, $36MM contract. Instead, he has opted for a one-year “prove it” deal from the Dodgers. Jon Heyman reports that Syndergaard had larger multi-year offers for more money from other teams but preferred to spend one year with the Dodgers and return to the open market again next winter. Of course, Heyman also broke the news that Judge was going to the City by the Bay… so there is that! Frankly, I am surprised that Thor did not end up back in his home state of Texas!

So now, the Rotation Depth Chart looks like this:

  1. Urias
  2. Gonsolin
  3. May
  4. Kershaw
  5. Bauer
  6. Thor
  7. Pepiot
  8. Stone
  9. Miller
  10. Grove
  11. Jackson

See what I did there? I am already assuming that Bauer will be reinstated. Of course, Pepiot, Jackson, and Grove may end up in the bullpen. Jackson may surprise you the most as a multi-inning reliever, better than Chicken Strip or Mitch White. I like Jackson a lot. Ditto for Pepiot – I am just not ready to pronounce him a reliever. He had a pretty dang good rookie year.

I am, however, ready to pronounce Gavin Stone as a starter. He is ready and should not be held back anymore. Bobby Miller still needs some seasoning. So it will be interesting as the Dodgers pitching staff will likely be among the best in all of baseball… if not THE BEST! The Bullpen looks like this:

  • Vesia
  • Almonte
  • Phillips
  • Ferguson
  • Graterol
  • Bickford
  • Gonzalez
  • Hudson
  • Miller
  • Feyereisen (Septeber?)

Then it could potentially include Grove, Pepiot, Jackson, and Miller. Vesia, Phillips, & Hudson will vie for the Closers’ role, and it is possible the Dodgers will not name one. The pitching is more than set. Expect something that you would not imagine in the form of a trade from Andrew Friedman by the All-Star Break!

For the first time in a few years, the Dodgers are going to give some rookies the opportunity to compete for a starting position. Friedman may or may not be done in the Free Agent Market, but I do lean toward “DONE” unless Dansby Swanson takes a lowball deal. Vargas, Busch, and Outman will get an opportunity, and Andy Pages is not far off! Diego Cartaya will likely start the season at Tulsa and could demand a look in the second half of the season. Ditto for Dalton Rushing. The Dodgers have plenty of catching trade collateral, including Feduccia, Fernandez, and Galiz.

Jason Heyward is a pure wild card: Nothing is expected, but stranger things have happened. I am going into this Spring Training with more anticipation than in a long time. This is going to be fun!

By the way, The Athletic says that Thor is betting on himself. That is partially true, but he is also betting on the Dodgers!

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  1. CassidyDecember 16, 2022

    I guess the Yanks aren’t trying to reset the CBT!

  2. JoeZDecember 16, 2022

    Rodon to Yankees 6 years $162 million. Per John Haymen

  3. BobbyDecember 16, 2022

    Yanks sign Carlos Rodon

    6 years $162 mil. What on earth!!

  4. toycannon23December 15, 2022

    Dodgers Acquire Yonny Hernandez – means no Swanson ? Are new Hanser !

  5. sbuffaloDecember 15, 2022

    Like the move. Thor could break out this season. The Dodgers work their magic and other teams just sigh, not again.

    I’m not assuming anything with Trevor Bauer. The Dodgers still need a center fielder and Bauer, if he does come back, will put them up against the tax threshold or at least that’s what I recently read. Maybe the Dodgers are serious about staying under or maybe not.

  6. Mark TimmonsDecember 15, 2022

    If the Dodger Brass sees something in Jeter they might call him and say, “What’s up, Downs?”

    See what I did there?

  7. JoeZDecember 15, 2022

    MushersPop, you’re absolutely right my mistake. Segura is a free agent, sorry.

  8. JoeZDecember 15, 2022

    Someone over at TBLA has suggested we should look into approaching Philadelphia about Jean Segura. What say you guys?

  9. NH DodgerDecember 15, 2022

    Have enjoyed reading these posts regarding Dodger off-season and next year’s roster. I like the Syndergaard signing. Seems like a typical year requires at least 8 starting pitchers to navigate the IL stints and such. Kershaw and Gonsolin are going to spend some time on IL and May is pitching first full year as a major league starter, hopefully. Don’t want to block Stone, Grove, or Pepiot who would appear to be the next three in line.

    Don’t see them paying Swanson given the money being tossed around for shortstops. I would think a low cost right hand hitting outfielder like McCutcheon makes a ton of sense in a left field platoon. Would not mind starting the year with a Thompson and Outman platoon in center with the flexibility to add at the deadline. The talk from Friedman, Gomes, Roberts, and Kasten sure seems to point at giving some of these younger players a path to playing time. I am all for it.

    The Correa signing and the Padres continued spending with the Bogaerts signing is going to make for an interesting season. Excited about this upcoming season because of it plus a new wave of young players on Dodgers, the balanced schedule, and the rules changes. Very curious if and how it changes Dodger’s thinking and what they value. This upcoming season is more intriguing than some in the past because of the changes internally and externally.

  10. MushersPopDecember 15, 2022

    Old friend Jeter Downs DFA by the Red Sox.

  11. BoboDecember 15, 2022

    Rooting for them both.

  12. Mark TimmonsDecember 15, 2022

    To those of you who questioned WHY AF didn’t sign Tyler Anderson:

    While you were playing checkers… he was playing chess! 😉

  13. RC DodgerDecember 15, 2022

    Great signing by Dodgers. Thor is a solid starter with big upside and he is only 30.

    I wanted to keep Tyler Anderson but Thor is $13 million for one year vs 3 years. Plus Thor is 3 years younger.

    Pitching staff is stocked.

    Now solidify the position players with either Swanson, JT, JD Martinez, Benitendi, or McCutchen.

  14. TMDecember 15, 2022

    Thor is a good pickup…you can never have enough quality pitchers. Look at all the injuries we had last year.

    If the Dodgers only signed Dansby Swanson, Freeman’s best friend, I would be ecstatic. I don’t trust Lux and really don’t want him playing every day. Swanson is a beast and his presence would make Freddie very happy. Get it done…

  15. IraDecember 15, 2022

    The reset of the payroll enforcer turns out to be a great gift to the talented rookies waiting their turn in the bigs. Instead of doing what the Mets have done, the Dodgers were forced to give the next wave of Dodger superstars their chance. For a change I’m glad we had to reset.

  16. DodgerfanDecember 15, 2022

    Max Fried rumors are swirling that the Braves are considering trading him.He is from Santa Monica. Just saying.

  17. OldBear48December 15, 2022

    Great analysis Mark. I too am looking forward to what should be a very interesting spring training. Another thing about Thor, he is an intense guy. His post about Correa’s remarks concerning Jeter not deserving any of his gold gloves should make Giant-Dodger games all that much more interesting. I am sure that Correa is going to be the Giants Manny Machado. Every time he steps to the plate in LA, he is going to get booed. And when a Dodger pitcher strikes him out, the cheers are going to be very loud.

  18. Watford DodgerDecember 15, 2022

    Gotta agree with you. Really looking forward to this season and seeing the Rookies get their chance.

    I really like this signing, just hope he can stay fit.

    Jason Heyward is done I’m afraid.

  19. The ReaperDecember 15, 2022

    I like the signing. Every year we think they have to much pitching and every they don’t. You can bet that both Kershaw and Gonsolin will only pitch about 20 to 25 starts. How many starts are they going to give May? Stone and Pepiot will get plenty of chances this year.

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