It All Comes Down to 2 Games… Maybe 3
The 2021 regular season will be over today… or tomorrow. There are two games today that will help determine the Champion of the NL West. If the Giants win, they are the champs. If the Giants lose and the Dodgers lose, the Giants are the Champs. If the Giants lose and then the…

The 2021 regular season will be over today… or tomorrow. There are two games today that will help determine the Champion of the NL West. If the Giants win, they are the champs. If the Giants lose and the Dodgers lose, the Giants are the Champs. If the Giants lose and then the Dodgers win, they are tied and will have a one-game “winner takes all” game on Monday.
The Dodgers seem to be hitting their stride offensively… all except Cody Bellinger and Chris Taylor, but if everyone else hits, the team can handle it. Here’s what we know: The only want the Dodgers can win the NL West is to win 107 games. They have won 105 as of this moment. They need to win two more… AND the Padres have to beat the Giants! It’s complicated and it will not be easy. Ten days ago, I thought the Dodgers should pack it in and be rested for the playoffs. Time will tell if I was right or wrong. Right about now, it looks like I was wrong, but I hope I am not right and the starters are gassed! We shall see.
At any rate, if the Giants win and the Dodgers lose, this will go down in history as one of the most fantastic finished EVER! If that happens, MR. MO MENTUM will be so strong that the Dodgers will crush the Giants on Monday. Bet the Ranch on it!
There is a lot more at stake as well. Trea Turner will win the NL Batting Title (no one can catch him) and Striker Buehler can nail down the Cy Young Award with a spectacular game… and make no mistake, for Striker to win his first Cy Young, he will have to be lights out. He needs seven or eight innings of dominant shutout baseball to trip his ERA in the 2.30’s and notch his 16th win. I that happens, you could see Dodgers 1, 2, and 3 in the Cy Young vote
- #1 Buehler
- #2 Scherzer
- #3 Urias
Has that ever happened (Bear)? I took a lot of crap over the years for wanting to keep Young Julio, but this is what I foresaw seven or eight years ago. I refused to allow Andrew Friedman to include Julio in any trade scenario. He tried to talk me out of it, but I was resolute. [OK, you know I am lying, right?] Coming into this season, Julio Urias had 12 career wins and 239 innings pitched in his previous 5 years in the majors. In 2021, he won 20 games and pitches 185.2 innings. That is remarkable!
Striker Buehler has 202.2 innings pitched and if he pitches well and deep into the game, he will win the Cy Young because of his stats and the sheer volume of innings. Other than Zach Wheeler (whose ERA and record is much worse), Buehler will likely be just a couple of innings short of Wheeler. Buehler is simply pitching for a pennant AND a Cy Young. Let’s see if that is really ice water in your veins, young man!
The Giants and Dodgers both start at around 3 PM PT today. Jake McGee is active and both teams will pull out all the stops. I believe that the Dodgers will bring out their whooping sticks and bet Brett Anderson like the piece of human excrement he is. I am not talking about the fact he is not a good pitcher. I am talking about him personally. I don’t say that about many people and I will just leave it at that! I hope the Dodgers beat him like a Rented Mule.
Playoff Roster?
- Smith
- Barnes
- Muncy
- T. Turner
- Seager
- J. Turner
- Pollock
- Bellinger
- Betts
- Pujols
- Lux
- Taylor
- Scherzer
- Buehler
- Urias
- Gonsolin
- White
- Bickford
- Kelly
- Knebel
- Treinen
- Vesia
- Bruihl
- Graterol
- Jansen
- Prive, Beaty, or V.Gonzalez?
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Discussion (58)
Disagree, not disagreeable
Im going to get this out…..
I’m now officially concerned- we only have 3 SPs and you know how fast playoff games are played. These 3 guys have pitched a lot of innings, especially the young one, Urias. The thought of these guys pitching on 4 days rest concerns me too, since they aren’t used to that.
Anyone else concerned too? Am I over reacting here?
TM
It’s a great point TM. Another playoff run without a proven #4. Gonsolin will have to step up. I think he has the stuff. And I don’t see how Price can make the playoff roster. Great guy, great teammate but would anyone feel comfortable having him coming in with the game on the line? And Mark, did Anderson return a water unit or what?
I assume this quote from Anderson throwing shade at the Dodgers when he was a Cub;
“As bad as I pitched, this is by far the best team atmosphere I’ve been apart of…not even close.”
and of course there was this;
“Crazy to think that I could never get anyone out ever again and still feel better about my career than Trevor Bauer’s”
Gonsolin seems to be capable of being a #4 if necessary. I wouldn’t have any problem using him in that role for the playoffs. I think Price could be valuable because of his experience in the postseason. Sometimes experience in high leverage situations can override a talented but inexperienced pitcher. If it’s for a batter or two or an inning anything can happen. He could be helpful in long relief if necessary. I think Price should be included on the playoff staff.
The offense appears to be waking up at the right time. Seager looks like he’s gearing up for more MVP awards this postseason. AJ is on fire as well. JT, Trea and Mookie are on the right track and need to continue into the postseason. Will Smith is in a small slump the past two weeks. Hopefully, Will returns to his timely clutch hitting for the playoffs. It would be nice to have more consistency from Mighty Max. And, to have Taylor and Bellinger emerge with any type of offensive production would be unexpected considering their recent results. But, the two will be likely produce some spectacular defensive plays along the way.
It’s sad to have Kershaw not be able to participate in the playoffs. Your heart had to go out to him as he sat on the bench after leaving the game on Friday. I’m thinking he will retire. What does he have to prove at this point in his career? He’s a first ballot hall of famer. He doesn’t need the money. He prefers to raise his young family in the Dallas area. Why go through the pain and boredom of a TJ surgery? There are no guarantees it will be successful at age 35. Again, his situation adds to some of the uncertainty in the offseason for the Dodgers and baseball in general.
How about the American league wild card? There is a reasonable possibility of a four team tie after today’s games.
If that happens the World Series may not be over until November. With all the teams starting at the same time today it may turn out to be one of the craziest days in baseball history.
Carry on.
Price cannot make the post season roster. In a perfect scenario Walker pitches lights out, the Giants lose in slugfest using 7 or 8 pitchers or have a long extra inning game . Dodgers and Max go to Oracle and beat the Giants and we then reset our rotation for the NLDS which starts Friday.
Giants then lose the WC game to the Cards and everything will be right in the world……..the baseball world that is!
If we can make it to a play-in game why would it have to be in SF? What’s the reason it wouldn’t be played in LA? I haven’t had my coffee yet.
Wow, it’s starting already. Why is everyone such a Debbie Downer? The first two comments are about how we don’t have a number 4 starter. By the time I finish this post, there will more than likely be more. Let’s start with a list of starters on playoff teams that have an ERA less than Toney’s 3.23
Giants – Gausman, DeScalfani, Webb
Braves -Fried
Brewers – Burnes, Hauser (3.22), Peralta, Woodruff
Cardinals – Wainwright
The Brewers are the only team that potentially has a 4th starter with an ERA as low as Gonso’s and it’s only by .01 point.
I know that last year Gonzo crapped himself in the postseason. Hopefully, with a little more experience he’ll pitch like himself. IMHO, he’s only a 5 inning guy, but with the other 3 workhorses in the rotation and the best bullpen in the league, 5 should be enough going against other teams number 4’s.
It’s incredible that this team has 105 wins with one game to play. I’m a little concerned that we might have to match up our number 4 starter against the Cardinals and Waino, but I like our bullpen behind him and I don’t expect Scherzer to lose against the Giants in a winner take all game if we go there.
Look at it this way. If we win today and the Giants lose, we basically get 2 wildcard games and only need to win one of them.
We also have the option to use Urias in the Wild Card game on short rest if needed. I like our chances especially with the Wild Card game at home with the fans going crazy. The Cardinals are going to have a tough time to say the least.
With that said, I still would have rather sent Mitch White to the hill today. But, I understand the strategy to go all in on each game from here on out. It’s playoff baseball and it started yesterday as soon as the Dodgers realized the Giants lost.
Let’s see how the pitching sets up…
We win today and the Giants lose. Scherzer pitches tomorrow and Gonsolin pitches on Wednesday if necessary. Julio on short rest is an option. If Urias goes, Bueller starts on Friday and Scherzer goes on Saturday, Urias on Monday, Gonzo on Tuesday and back to Bueller for a game 5.
The Giants win today. Scherzer pitches on Wednesday. Urias and Bueller on Friday and Saturday and Scherzer comes back on Monday with Gonzo in game 4 on Tuesday and Urias in a Game 5.
There’s always the option to forego Gonso and bring back the game 1 starter on 3 days rest for the DS.
Other than that, there aren’t too many decisions regarding the Roster as Mark pointed out above. Do you go with Beaty’s bat or another pitcher and a short bench?
I don’t like having a short bench. I want 4 pinch hitters available, plus the backup catcher. Price pitched himself off the roster in my opinion by sealing the deal last night by allowing 2 runs on three hits and a walk in 1 IP.
As much as I like Mitch White, I like V-Gone better. V-Gone has now pitched 8 games in a row without allowing a run at AAA and after what he did for us last year in the postseason, I trust him.
So as far as Mark’s roster goes, I add V-Gone in place of Mitch White as a third lefty in the pen and Beaty takes the 26th spot.
It was a great game yesterday and Julio showed why he’s the real Cy Young winner. Sorry, I can’t ignore that he’ll be MLB’s only 20 win pitcher and the fact that just one pitcher will even finish within three wins of that total.
Corbin Burnes has 0 chance of winning the award with 9 wins off the lead and just 167 innings pitched. No starting pitcher has ever won the award with less than 180.
Bueller’s got a shot at making the Cy Young contest really interesting. If he manages to lower his ERA, his innings pitched might just put him over the top, even with 4 wins shy of Julio.
It’s funny that people are worried about Gonso being the 4th starter when he’s 4-1 with a 3.23 ERA when the other three starters are all in the Cy Young conversation.
Manhandling the Brewers at home has to sting a little for them. Sure, they swept us early in the season, but they know they aren’t playing that team right now. Julio carved them up like Gordan Ramsey would do a Thanksgiving Turkey.
I guess the only other thing to mention besides Seager, Turner and Pollock firmly zeroed into beast mode, is the Center Field situation. CT3 is going to be out there against lefties because Belli and Lux have both consistently sucked against lefties this year. That much is clear. So, the big side of the platoon is the decision that needs to be made. Do you go with the defense and power potential that Belli provides, or do you hope Lux doesn’t crap himself in the box during the postseason, or bust break himself in the outfield? To me speed and baserunning is equal.
I handle it like this. Belli starts and if he swings outside the zone in his early ABs and we are losing, you pull him for the chance at more offense. I go with the gold glove defense and the chance of running into one and sending it out of the yard over Lux’s hot streak with the bat.
I really like the format of all games on at the same time on the final day of the season. It looks like it’s going to be a bullpen game for San Diego against Webb. It looks like a mismatch, but this is baseball so anything can happen.
Hey Mark, pretty sure all game today are approx 3pmET not PT. Hate to have someone miss the game if this is the only place they checked that.
cheers
pb+
Please no Price on the Playoff roster. Looks like he’s throwing batting practice these days. I agree that Gonsolin is as good as any #4 out there, if he gets in trouble we have a bullpen game. I wonder if SD will roll over or if the change in management will send the Pad’s out on a winning note. Stay tuned……………………….
Knehr v Webb
The pitching match up heavily favors the Giants. I’d be surprised if the Giants don’t come out early and put an end to our hope for a tie. But, you never know, right?
Game 162’s Lineup 3PM ET:
RF Mookie Betts R
SS Corey Seager L
2B Trea Turner R
3B J. Turner R
1B Max Muncy L
C Will Smith R
LF AJ Pollock R
CF Chris Taylor R
P W. Buehler R
Bulldog, you are missing some off days in that set up you have for the pitchers. They have travel days after games 2 and 4 of the NLDS. Giants have a pitching advantage over the Padres today. Webb has been lights out, so all the posturing may be for naught. Just checked, in two games against the Padres Webb is 0-1 with a 6.08 ERA. He also is 5-0 at home. Pads are hitting .308 against him. LA is hitting .127 off of the guy in 3 games. He is the best SF has against LA. Maybe the Padres hitters do right by their fired manager and send him out a winner.
Dodgers need to score early to put pressure on the Giants. I hope Muncy is okay. Oh no Muncy is out!!
Crap
ABS. NEXT YEAR!
I would say Muncy is at the very least out for a week to 10 days. At the worst, he’s done for the year!
If Jace comes up again, bring Phillips in and drill him!
Is over… Wild card!
Okay, take WB out. Giants will win the West. Padres rolling over once again.
Hope that Muncy is okay but it did not look good.
Lets hope Max has his best stuff WED and we advance to knock out the Giants.
Dodgers have had a great regular season , especially considering all the injuries and the TB saga . Who would have thought that 104 wins would not be enough to win the West ? Giants have had their best year since 1904!
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok now Striker comes out with the Cy
Okay, with the regular season almost in the books and nobody knowing how the postseason will play out here is my top 3 to do list for the Dodgers offseason:
Nr. 1: Resign Scherzer to a 2 year contract.
Nr.2: Resign Corey long term.
Nr.3: Extend TT.
There should be enough money to get this done . Tons of money coming off the book after this year (Clayton, Jansen, Sierra, hopefully TB contract) and again next year (Price).
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hats off to Doc and the Dodgers for fighting to the end of the regular season and not conceding the NL West till the very last game. They could have just laid back and waited for a guaranteed WC game, but they refused to quit. They showed a lot of spirit these last games . GO DODGERS!!!
Muncy injury is an elbow. After looking at it again it could be a hyperextension or even dislocation.
I fear his season might be over. Would be a huge blow to our postseason chances.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!
8 division titles in a row. This year, will be better than all of those 8 years.
We’ll set the franchise record for wins, all while dealing with an insane amount of injuries, off years, and the Bauer drama.
100% credit to Dave Roberts for getting 106 wins out of this team, and 100% GTFO to those who want to criticize him for not getting to 108 wins.
Time for Cory to play first base. hope hitting again.
I really enjoyed the way the Dodgers have played the last few games. Seager, Tuerner, Pollock and Beaty have hit well. behind them Justin Turner, Lux, Muncy and Smith.
Les go to the WC
105 wins ain’t enough for 2021. As painful as it is with these next words………Congrats Giants! Don’t know what your secrete is but the fat lady hasn’t sang on the championship and I heard her rehearsing and she was singing to the Dodgers!