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The Solution to the Bullpen Dilution

The talent in the Dodger’s bullpen has gone from being the best team in baseball to literally being the worst team in baseball (or very close to it). What is the solution to the bullpen dilution? I think I have it figured out, and it involves Mark Prior. Before you lose your…

By Mark Timmons4 min read61 comments

The talent in the Dodger’s bullpen has gone from being the best team in baseball to literally being the worst team in baseball (or very close to it). What is the solution to the bullpen dilution? I think I have it figured out, and it involves Mark Prior. Before you lose your mind and think, I want to fire Mark Prior… I don’t. Let’s establish that first, but when you cannot fire the whole pitching staff, you fire the Pitching Coach. That is not needed right at this moment. What is needed is change.

Before I go on, let me ask a question first: Does it seem odd that many of the pitchers are having bad years… especially in the bullpen?

  • Last year, Julio Urias had a 2.16 ER – this year, it is 4.39
  • Last year Michael Grove had a 4.60 ERA – this year, it sits at 8.28
  • Last year Noah Syndergaard had a 3.94 ERA and came to LA for Mark Prior to “fix him.” His ERA is 7.16
  • Phil Bickford had a 4.72 ERA last year – now it is 7.33
  • Andre Jackson had a 1.86 ERA last year, and now it is 6.62
  • Justin Bruihl went from 3.80 to 4.41
  • Alex Vesia was at 2.15 last year -this year, he is helpless at 7.13
  • Yency Almonte had a 1.02 ERA in 2022 and now is horrid at 6.52

Gonsolin, Kershaw, Miller & Miller, May, and even Graterol have different stuff and seem unaffected. Some are blaming Andrew Friedman, which is moronic. Who could anticipate that two-thirds of the Dodgers pitchers would regress? No one, that’s who? But things do not happen in a vacuum. There is “cause and effect.” Mark Prior is the “cause.” He has a plan for the pitchers. He has many of them start with a high fastball or a low slider; then, he likes to change the eye level of the batter. Some pitchers throw the “sweeper” to do that. The fact is that it usually involves throwing the pitches in certain areas.

I think the opposition has developed a highly predictive algorithm of the way each Dodger pitcher throws. The Dodgers are not the only team with a large analytics department. Every team does it, and these guys are smart! In 1988, Kirk Gibson knew that Dodger Scout Mel Didier told the team that EVERY TIME Dennis Eckersley had a 3-2 count on a LH batter, he threw a backdoor slider, and Gibby was ready for it.

If MLB hitters know what and even where a pitch will be, they can hit it probably over half of the time. That elevates a .250 hitter to a .500 hitter, and .500 hitters destroy a pitching staff! I believe that is what is happening to the Dodgers. It’s time for Mark Prior to throw the other team a curve – not literally! Baseball is a great game of adjustments. The opposition has adjusted – now it’s time for Mark Prior and Company to re-adjust. If that seems too simplistic, remember that sometimes the simplest methods work the best.

The entire pitching staff did not simply “lose it” this year. The competition just has a better idea of what is coming, and they are waiting for that. Change your pitching sequence, and you will change your results, Mark Prior. If it works, I’ll tell you where to send the checks! 😉

This needs to be done immediately… if not sooner!

Dodger News and Notes

  • To say that Emmet Sheehan was good last night would be like saying that the Queen Mary was a boat. He did not get a ton of “swing and miss,” and luck was involved, but still… 6 hitless innings? He will stick around for another start or three.
  • James Outman is showing signs of adjusting – he is not swinging out of his shoes at every pitch. I like the progress.
  • OTOH, Miguel Vargas needs to sit a couple of games and clear his head. It will do no good for Vargas out Outman to go back to OKC at this moment!
  • Gavin Stone got beaten like a rented mule last night – 3.1 IP/11 H/10 ER/2 BB/8 K – How on earth can you even do that?
  • Andre Jackson followed up with 4.2 IP/5 H/4 ER/1 BB/8 K
  • Zack Burdi struck out 2 in his 1 IP.
  • Nick Frasso threw 4 IP at Tulsa with 0 Runs and 3 K’s
  • Rooney and Leasure looked good.
  • It is always darkest, just before dawn.
  • Then there was this, and Jon Miller called it correctly:
https://twitter.com/KNBR/status/1669958892951044096?s=20

Unfortuneatly, this is what Dodger Baseball is about

This is a huge double standard, and if you think it is not a part of Dodger Baseball, you would be wrong… and devoid of common sense! The Dodgers just ignored (selectively) their own code of conduct and caved to the Woke Mob! Shamefully! I do not ignore this bullshit! I call like I see it! It should not be lost on anyone that the Dodgers honored the anti-Catholic drag ‘nuns’ more than an hour before the first pitch inside a nearly empty stadium. They are a bunch of Chickenshit Cowards!

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  1. Dodger dadJune 18, 2023

    Can’t blame Roberts for this one! Look, we all can admit he’s not a tactical genius,. The 2020 World Series was by far his best managing job. We’re running out 4 major league hitters at the top of the lineup, and prospects and reclamation players 5-9. Love my dodgers , but so tired of platoons every damn game! Even if we had a constant lineup with good players, we won’t pay em and let them walk away. Bobby Miller didn’t look sharp from the start last night, but why let him continue after it was 5-0? Who cares if the bullpen’s taxed! Wouldn’t you rather save millers arm than 80% of that bullpen? There’s still plenty of time to win this division. But Friedman needs to be proactive right now! It’s going to be tough to pass 3 teams ahead of you in the standings! Aren’t we all tired of .200 hitters and pitchers with an earned run average north of6? Friedman will probably let Martinez walk next year and put muncy. At Dh. I would do just the opposite. All maxs home runs look nice, but that .190 and his godawful defense needs a new home! I know the state tax issue, but wouldn’t Corey seager look so good at shortstop right about now?

  2. CassidyJune 18, 2023

    Well at least we can’t blame Robert’s and the bullpen for this loss

  3. KPJune 18, 2023

    I don’t mean to be overly religious but after the team I have followed for over sixty years picks demonic nuns to entertain their fans and kids, PAYBACK IS A BITCH! No more political stuff but you have to consider there is some kind of payback going on. I feel bad for the players, it was not their choice.

  4. dodgerramJune 18, 2023

    Bobby Miller lost his composure after that soft hit that broke the scoreless tie. He is still leaning how to overcome situations like that . The pitch to Wade was the result of not being able to keep his concentration up and emotions down. He will learn from it.

    Embarassing loss nonetheless. Lets see how the team responds. Will they roll over on Sunday and get swept by their archrivals at home or will they rebound ?

    Veterans have to step up and take control. Betts, Freeman, JD. And Roberts too.

    As things look at the moment I do not see this team making the playoffs this year. Too many holes, either injuries or players not producing . Vargas has been a big disappointment so far. Sooner or later they have to decide on Barnes.

    He is a good teammate and all but hitting at .100 clip is hurting the team. He is an automatic out and rally killer.

    Dodgers now sligthly above .500 which is what I expected so I can not say I am surprised.

    If this continues they should think about being sellers come the trade deadline. Muncy. JDM. Julio. CT3. Some contenders might be very interested in those players, offering some nice prospects.

    Clear some more payroll and gear up for 2024. Which might have been the plan anyway.

    On a bright note: Josue dePaula doing better and better at RC. Another 2 hit game . Average still only at .234 but on a nice roll after a very slow start. IMHO the best OF prospect the Dodgers have had since Mondesi.

    Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. RC DodgerJune 18, 2023

    Worst home shutout loss in 125 years. How do lose 15-0 to Alex Wood and the Giants? Dodgers hit a new low this year. No one on the Giants team would hit in the top 5 of the Dodgers lineup. Their best hitter was allowed to walk away from the Dodgers for $7 million a year. The pitcher that shut out the Dodgers tonight was let go by the Dodgers and signed for $3 million by the Giants in 2021. The last two losses to the arch rival Giants illustrate the lack of focus and preparedness of the Dodger team. The Giants are only 1/2 game behind Dodgers and look like the superior team. The Giants seemed to tee off on off speed pitches against Miller the third time through the order.

    Maybe Giants picked up something on Miller. But Miller has been great in the MLB so far.

    Interesting that Roberts pulled Sheehan after 89 pitches in a no hit effort, but left Miller out there for 92 pitches behind 5-0.

    Maybe the Karma from honoring the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence is real.

  6. OldBear48June 18, 2023

    Worst drubbing by the Giants in years. And it won’t get easier tomorrow with Webb pitching. They won’t win anything until Freddie starts to hit again. This has to be his worst homestand ever so far.

  7. BradleyJune 18, 2023

    Well that’s what you get when you start a bunch of AAA players in a lineup against veterans you get a blowout. Things just keep getting worse and it’s like okay keep it close until the regulars come back. And then see what happens. If San Diego heats up we could be in trouble they have gone threw injury as well as not hitting the ball either. Right now Arizona looks like the team to beat and name a player on that team except Carroll or Walker.

  8. VengeurJune 18, 2023

    Headline: DODGER DISARRAY DISASTER- Amateur Hour Continues in 15-0 Drubbing by Giants.

  9. DavidJune 18, 2023

    OUCH

  10. VengeurJune 18, 2023

    Even Kapler and his Mini-Me had looks like, OK , enough already.

  11. VengeurJune 18, 2023

    In the booth. AND on the mound.

  12. VengeurJune 18, 2023

    I miss Orel.

  13. WayneJune 18, 2023

    The Dodgers with 16 losses in their last 27 games. And now they’re in free-fall.

    There is more plaguing this team than just the injury-bug, …MUCH more.

  14. Carlos ZamoraJune 18, 2023

    Enough to me of Vesia and Robert’s! Wake me up next April!

  15. dodgerrickJune 18, 2023

    “This is the best of all possible worlds…” – Dr. Pangloss

    All is well. The Dodgers are the best team in baseball after all.

  16. CassidyJune 18, 2023

    Too early to think about selling at the trade deadline? AF’s plan to get under the luxury tax!

  17. NorcaldodgerfanJune 18, 2023

    I like the youth movement but four rookies in the starting line-up is a recipe for a disaster, or just another L in the loss column.

    Been saying it since the Winter Meetings but this is an organization wide strategy to get young and see if player development has done a good job. Sure they signed JD and Syndergaard as FAs but really not much else unless you consider a trade for Rojas to be a big move.

    Hindsight is 20/20 but letting Seager go, a player drafted

    and developed is still a head scratcher for me. Not offering Bellinger salary arbitration I get but Seager should have never been allowed to leave.

    Team looks uninspired,

    perhaps too young in too many positions.

  18. VengeurJune 18, 2023

    You could see Miller got flustered. I mean it was OBVIOUS he needed to regain focus, why didn’t they go out and calm him down??? Nope. Gives up a homer.

  19. WayneJune 18, 2023

    Busch had 2 impressive ab’s against tough-on-lefties Woods.

  20. Dodger dadJune 18, 2023

    Somebody please teach Austin Barnes to bunt!

  21. WayneJune 18, 2023

    The Dodgers need the young bats to produce this season if they’re to be a legit contender. And there’s no better time to start than this game ..right NOW.

  22. OldBear48June 18, 2023

    Some guy on twitter posted a video of him burning his Dodger cap and jersey. I have 8 and about 12 caps, I am not burning any of them. Way to expensive. Some of those caps are 45 bucks each. Especially the ones for Memorial day, or to honor Vets. 4th of July. Crazy money. And my most expensive jersey is worth 300. Nope, not burning shit.

    Gay day is over, I wish all this sisters of total lunacy shit would just go away.

  23. BlutoJune 17, 2023

    For all the hard to discern stuff in Bradley’s post, I really like this basic tenet:

    Trade players for players who are better than those you trade.

  24. Watford DodgerJune 17, 2023

    Loving this season. Loving watching the Rookies play.

    I’d be happy to give all these prospects a go and get some experience. Sheehan was great like all our debutants have been.

    What a great job the player developing team do.

    I would much rather watch a team

    of homegrown players over the next few years, than a team of mercenaries just collecting a paycheque.

  25. Andrew Vincent ForteJune 17, 2023

    David Vassegh

    @THEREAL_DV

    Chris Taylor received a cortisone injection to his right knee. Usually players are unable to play for at least 48 hours after injection. #Dodgers

    Urías throwing his second bullpen session of this home stand. Dave Roberts one of the observers. #Dodgers

    J.D. Martinez starting in LF for the first time in a regular season game since 2021. #Dodgers

    David Peralta just went thru outfield drills and left hamstring appears to be ok. #Dodgers

  26. BradleyJune 17, 2023

    Tonites lineup the first five batters yeah the last four batters yawn that’s when you go and make dinner because it will go like this.,strikeout or popup to the infield the 6,7,,8,9, batters tonite. Geezzzzzz. Yet it’s Dodgers vs Giants so you watch it and you root for the guys in Blue. And wonder why did we let Pederson go just being in the clubhouse him an kiki made games fun.

  27. OldBear48June 17, 2023

    Per Dave Roberts, Peralta is feeling better and could be used as a PH tonight but will probably not play the outfield for a few days, Taylor is getting a cortisone shot, and they will wait before making an IL decision. Urias threw a bullpen and threw 40 pitches. He will need at least to throw to hitters before a re-hab assignment.

  28. OldBear48June 17, 2023

    Wood coming off of the IL to start. Dodgers called up Bryan Hudson and DFA”D Scott. Hudson is a lefty.

  29. Andrew Vincent ForteJune 17, 2023

    9:10 PM ET

    Giants (37-32)

    Dodgers (39-31)

    SP Alex Wood L

    1-1 4.80 ERA

    SP Bobby Miller R

    3-0 .78 ERA

    Confirmed Lineup

    RF Mookie Betts R

    1B F. Freeman L

    DH Will Smith R

    LF J. Martinez R

    CF Jonny DeLuca R

    2B M. Vargas R

    SS Miguel Rojas R

    3B M. Busch L

    C A. Barnes R

    Clear-day

    0% rain

    71° Wind 9 mph Out

  30. Singing The BlueJune 17, 2023

    Scott has been dfa’d and replaced on the roster by Bryan Hudson.

    Infielder Yonny Hernandez is in the clubhouse but may only be here in case Taylor needs to go to the IL, so possibly taxi squad for now.

  31. Singing The BlueJune 17, 2023

    Yeah, let’s start by trading Bobby Miller and Sheehan.

    Or we could trade Barnes, Rojas, Vesia and Scott for Ohtani.

    Bradley, what do you expect to get back for the guys who are playing so badly that we don’t want them on our team?

    Doc is far from the best manager in MLB but he’s not responsible for all the injuries we’ve had and the players who aren’t performing up to their capabilities.

  32. BradleyJune 17, 2023

    Theres only five players to keep right now I would say Freeman Betts Smith JD Martinez and Kershaw every one else trade them. And get players that are better. Have you watched a Diamondbacks game there cheering hustling and I don’t know a dam player but they play together and hard. And it could be the number one batter one nite hitting a homee or the number nine batter. Baseball is a game that you when when your whole team plays together. And right now the Dodgers aren’t playing well. Shoot they lost two games to the Whitesoxs and now the Giants. What happens when they play the good teams well they get up for those games. But not for the bad teams. And it’s been that way for years just play okay ball. That comes all on the manager how a team plays just okay not great. Right now the manager of the year is the guy in Arizona not Roberts or Melvin or the Mets manager but the Diamondbacks manager. Because the team is young and they built it over the years an splayed together. The Dodgers okay like a company softball team great one nite then suck the other three nites because it’s all about the manager. Look at him during the games Roberts looks like he is sleeping in there. Then watch a Rangers game with Bochy and he is in to the game that’s why Bochy win close games. And his teams get in to the playoffs. Right now the Rays Diamondbacks Braves Orioles Brewers Rangers are all playing better then the Dodgers.

  33. sbuffaloJune 17, 2023

    Okay, the relievers, as a group, are a disaster. But that tends to change from season to season. Is it pitch selection? Possibly. Maybe part of it is execution, missing location. Maybe it’s a little of both. But one way or the other the bullpen is a total mess.

    It was certainly a mess both inside and outside the stadium. Thousands of protesters of all Faith’s.

    The Dodgers should offer a public apology. Why would you want to alienate your fan base? No one protested previous pride events. This one was different because of the so-called Nun’s trying to offend people by making a mockery out of Christianity.

    Sorry, but their act is disgusting.

    Even Clayton Kershaw spoke out. The face of the Dodgers. How totally embarrassing.

    It was an (expletive deletive) show.

    No one should have to put up with this crap at a baseball game

    That’s one of the reasons to go to baseball games is to get away from this nonsense.

    Whoever thought the Nuns were a good idea should be fired.

    Oh and you hear this often, but the Nuns of Perpetual use their stunts to raise money to help people.

    I’m guessing Justin Turner raised more money to help people in LA than these painted faces ever will. I miss Turner.

    But Emmett Sheehan was fun to watch. Beyond impressive debut.

  34. MichaelJune 17, 2023

    Well I live 2000 miles away now amongst Asstro fans and up till yesterday wore my dodger gear proudly always defending the Dodgers and calling them out as cheater’s. I can’t defend the wrong and stupidity of honoring a hate group as it’s been rubbed in my face quite a bit. Not only did I put my dodger gear away probably for good, it’s hurts my heart

  35. Andrew Vincent ForteJune 17, 2023

    Friday scores

    Salt Lake 14, Oklahoma City 2

    Tulsa 3, Springfield 0

    Wisconsin 8, Great Lakes 7 (10)

    Rancho Cucamonga 2, San Jose 1

    Saturday schedule

    4:05 p.m. PT: Great Lakes (Kendall Williams) vs. Wisconsin (Tyler Woessner)

    4:35 p.m.: Tulsa (Kyle Hurt) at Springfield (Edgar Escobar)

    5:05 p.m.: Oklahoma City (Landon Knack) vs. Salt Lake (John Swanda)

    6:00 p.m.: Rancho Cucamonga (Peter Heubeck) at San Jose (Nomar Medina)

  36. MichaelJune 17, 2023

    It never crossed my mind in 55 years of loyalty the day would come I’d be ashamed to be a dodger fan as I was yesterday

  37. QuasimodoJune 17, 2023

    Does anybody here have an actual number that attended last night’s game? It sure appears that there was quite a loss ticket wise. There could be a reduction of the cost of Dodgerdogs in the next couple games. I’m certain owners got the message.

  38. VengeurJune 17, 2023

    Clown Show last night, both pregame and during the game. It was actually quite fitting to end the night with a “who’s on third” comedy routine. I’m sure the SF fans found it funny as hell, to F up that badly, only to be outdone by the Dodgers. Absolutely Humiliating.

  39. OldBear48June 17, 2023

    Jacob Amaya just promoted from AAA by the Marlins. He was hitting .278 with 9 bombs at AAA Jacksonville. Another problem the Dodgers have pitching wise. They have 6 starters and 5 relievers on the IL. Not many teams can take a hit like that and stay in contention. Somebody is going to have to step up. The bullpen needs to get better as a group. And the starters need to keep going deeper into games. Kersh is the only one who has made it to seven innings all year. This BP will be toast by the end of July.

  40. Dodger oJune 17, 2023

    Hell, hanser Alberto better than 75% of this bullpen!

  41. OldBear48June 17, 2023

    A couple of things to note and maybe consider. First, I think the pitch clock has gotten into some of the pitchers heads. And even though they have had plenty of time to adjust, some have not. Vesia is especially affected by it because it has thrown him completely off of his game. You watch the guy on the mound, he is like a nervous cat. Pacing all over the place. He had time to do that pre pitch clock, not now. Graterol has his moments, and he grooved one last night that cost them a couple of runs. But then Gonzalez, Vesia and Scott gave it all up. Gonzalez is clearly not the same guy, and he was not part of last years pen. Scott is a journeyman trying to hang on and Vesia is trying to re-discover his magic. But all the onus is not on the pen for last night. They had plenty of chances to win that game. Mookie made two bad decisions on the bases. One, he was already in scoring position, there was one out and no reason to try and steal third. Second, he never looked at Ebel when he rounded second on the error to see if he had stopped Busch. He had his head down and was running full steam. Busch did not try to score because the third base coach saw that they already had the ball. He would have been out at home. And they were two runs down, so scoring would not have tied the score. Finally, all the crying about bunting the guy over, this team has zero sacrifice bunts this season. Not one. None of these players except maybe Rojas, are very good at bunting.

  42. DavidJune 17, 2023

    Meanwhile on the baseball side of things. Our team has been able to carry on thanks to 4 or 5 guys hitting and NOT getting injured. So only a matter of time before that luck runs out on our 30+year old players. So now Muncy joined by Peralta and Taylor. What if Mookie or Freddie goes down next????

    Even if Taylor and Peralta not ‘seriously’ injured and play—well we know how injured players somehow go into slumps

  43. DodgfanJune 17, 2023

    Why the Dodgers chose to inject themselves in to hot topic religion/politics by embracing an organization that claims to promote tolerance by mocking and disrespecting the religious belief/practices of others is puzzling to say the least.

    Message to the LAD, stick to baseball! If I want to hear or witness divisiveness I can simply dial into CNN, Fox News, CNBC, etc.

    I stopped watching football, in part because of politics getting dragged into game and will not hesitate to do the same to MLB if this persists.

  44. NH DodgerJune 17, 2023

    Not sure I agree with the premise that the Dodger relief corps has become too predictable in their pitch sequence and location. Relief pitching varies more from year to year than almost any other performance in baseball. It is why bullpen construction is such a hit or miss proposition. Throw in the new rules on defensive shifts and just the randomness of sampling variability and that seems to be a more logical explanation. Just off the top of my head, the Reds game that Caleb Ferguson gave away was a function of a lack of command, last night Victor Gonzalez could not throw a strike and gave up three soft hits that found a hole (random chance) , Brusdar has had two throwing errors that cost them games or leads. Plus, Graterol gives up a lot of soft contact hits because he can’t put hitters away. I think the Dodgers should look at some of these power arms in the minor leagues to fill in a hole or two in that pen. I know that these pitchers have more value when they are developed as starters but we can’t possibly use them all as starters. Rather than trade these young AA and AAA starters for relief pitching, use Grove, Pepiot, Frasso, and/or Ryan to shore up the pen. Mark has an interesting hypothesis but I trust that the Dodgers have studied the data and if it was as simple as pitch sequence they would have discovered it.

    I agree with their approach to Vargas and Outman. This is part of that runway that young players need to develop and succeed at the Major League level. Anthony Volpe was under .200 for the Yankees as their starting shortstop two weeks ago and he was a top 10 prospect last year. Nolan Gorman was sent back to minors by Cardinals last year because he struggled hitting high fast balls and he is back this year with a bang. As fans, me definitely included, we are not the most patient when it comes to player development.

    This had all the makings of a “gap year”, as someone called it, for the Dodgers. It sure looks that way. I would be much more frustrated as a Padres fan with the money they have spent and the star power on that roster. Dodgers are going through a difficult stretch with injuries and poor pitching but they have key pieces like Urias and Hudson set to return within two weeks, a deep farm system, and the trade deadline ahead. They are still as good a bet as Diamondbacks, Giants, or Padres to win this division, in my opinion.

  45. RC DodgerJune 17, 2023

    I usually agree with Mark’s articles, but putting all of the blame on Prior for the bullpen problems is wrong.

    Accountability starts with the players. These relievers with the exception of Phillips have underperformed this year. It is primarily bad execution by the relievers combined with lack of talent and experience. But the players have to perform when given a chance.

    Secondly, Dave Roberts is the manager not Mark Prior. He is responsible for all of the coaches including the pitching coach. Roberts makes the pitching changes and he makes many questionable moves. This Tuesday he used Evan Phillips in the 8th inning of a 5-0 game after an off day. The next day Dodgers lost a 4-2 lead in the 8th inning when Dave pitched Almonte in the 8th inning instead of Phillips. Last night Phillips was unavailable again to help hold a 4-0 lead and instead Dave removed Sheehan after 6 no hit innings, knowing his bullpen was thin. Roberts is part of the bullpen problem also.

    MT exempts Friedman from any criticism of the bullpen. AF put together a bullpen that pays Treinen, Hudson, Reyes, Nelson $25 million and none have pitched this year. He also paid Kimbrel $16 million last year and Treinen $10 million last year for minimal production. His bullpen roster decisions are part of the problem.

    Maybe Prior and the catchers can improve their pitch sequencing, but to think that will solve all of the bullpen problems is silly. Start with the players, the GM and the manager before singling out the pitching coach.

  46. TMJune 17, 2023

    Just curious, I don’t know anything about this “anti catholic/Christian” group so I haven’t made one comment, but this makes me wonder…..do you think the Dodgers would have allowed an “anti Muslim” group to be represented?

  47. GJune 17, 2023

    Funny how we’ve have decades of movies and TV shows that have made parodies of nuns and there was not a peep of protesting… Until the drag group does it. Let’s not pretend this is anything more than LGBTQ hate disguised as religious protesting. Stop giving in to the right wing hate mongers. They are playing you for suckers so that they can win an election.

  48. GJune 17, 2023

    Funny how we’ve have decades of movies and TV shows that have made parodies of nuns and there was not a peep of protesting… Until the drag group does it. Let’s not pretend this is anything more than LGBTQ hate disguised as religious protesting. Stop giving in to the right wing hate mongers. They are playing you for suckers.

  49. BlutoJune 17, 2023

    Tip of the hat to Mark for getting as much mileage as he can.

    2K people protesting in the lot before the game. That’s sizable and makes sense to me.

  50. Mark TimmonsJune 17, 2023

    Last night was KARMA for the Dodgers!

    The Big Dodger in the Sky (Tommy was lobbying him) called BS!

  51. SteveJune 17, 2023

    The Dodgers should be ashamed of themselves for celebrating an anti-Christian hate group. I’ve been a fan all of my life, until last night.

  52. BorninBrooklynJune 17, 2023

    Mookie was a bonehead on the bases last night .

  53. CassidyJune 17, 2023

    As a Christian, my response to last night should be that of Oswald Chambers.

    “Criticism is one of the ordinary activities of people, but in the spiritual realm nothing is accomplished by it. Every time I judge, I condemn myself. (Rom 2:17-24)

    Criticism serves to make you harsh, vindictive, and cruel, and leaves you with the soothing and flattering idea that you are somehow superior to others. Jesus says that as His disciple you should cultivate a temperament that is never critical. Yet, speaking the truth with kindness and gentleness.

    The Holy Spirit is the only one in the proper position to criticize, and He alone is able to show what is wrong without hurting and wounding.” However, I am still a work in progress.

  54. koufax32June 17, 2023

    I also didn’t watch or listen to my beloved Dodgers because of the stupid decison to honor a hate group. I’m pissed off at the organization for allowing this and caving in. I hope it hits them in the pocket book they are smart enough to realize what they did and never do it again. There is enough crap going on in the world that we don’t need a distraction from watching a game that is suposed to take our minds off of the negative.

  55. dodgerramJune 17, 2023

    What a shame the Dodgers let that W for Emmett Sheehan get away like that. Once again a bullpen meltdown with that baserunning debacle ending it.

    Kid deserved to win this game. One of the best Dodgers debuts for a rookie pitcher ever.

    Speaking of letting one get away:

    Once again it cost the Dodgers a win because they absolutely refuse to play small ball when small ball presents itself.

    Bottom of the 10th, Caleb just stranded that ghost runner. Why on heavens earth do you not bunt that runner over to third base with a bunt by Outman ? The long fly ball by Bush wins you the game. Instead you let Outman swing away and he does not move the runner over.

    Plus Roberts knew he was down to his last pitcher with Vesia already. IMHO yet another prove this guy is a bad ingame manager.

    On Vargas: Agree with Mark. Kid needs a couple of games in the dugout. But with all the injureis he probably will be in the lineup due to default. So far Vargas is kind of a disappointment.

    And what the he.ll happened to STone ? That is a stat lne from hell.

    Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  56. Andrew Vincent ForteJune 17, 2023

    Another contributing factor to Dodger ERAs being up this year is that they can no longer use the shift to their advantage. Last year the Dodgers higher use and were more more effective than most teams with the shift.

  57. DavidJune 17, 2023

    Mark,

    Your thesis about our relief pitching makes a lot of sense. We know these guys can alternate good years and bad-especially when 1 or 2 pitches in an inning are amplified by their short stints, but STILL-when it is EVERYONE you would think it is the PLAN that is going wrong.

  58. dodgerpatchJune 17, 2023

    comment in jail

  59. dodgerpatchJune 17, 2023

    This is actually a pretty insightful article. Essentially the Dodgers have the same personnel as they did last year, when their bullpen was generally excellent. The fastball velocity hasn’t dropped for each of these pitchers. I presume their command hasn’t declined so much that it would account for just how poor their performances have been. That they are as collectively bad as they are after being as good as they were is almost statistically impossible. It cannot be explained by just a decline in “stuff.” The stuff really hasn’t declined. So, why?

    I noted once when watching Vesia getting beaten like a rented mule that his pitches actually weren’t bad. I saw one particular high fastball right on the upper end of the strike zone, if not slightly above it, get ripped for a hard line drive and it perplexed me. I was thinking, “that was actually a good pitch!” It seemed odd. This whole bullpen implosion seems odd.

    Mark Prior is not a wizard. People were somehow expecting him to add 3 ticks to Syndergaard’s fastball. His talent was making minor tweaks to arm angles to get a little more command here, a little more rise there; but his real gift was sequencing. He developed a system that worked. The problem is, it’s a system, and as a system it can become predictable.

    I dunno. Smarter more informed people than we fans probably have some more insight, but I think the possibility that other teams have cracked the Prior code and the book is out is as good a theory as any.

    This was how the relief corps ranked last year. What is going on?

    https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=rel&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2022-01-01&enddate=2022-12-31

  60. Andrew Vincent ForteJune 17, 2023

    I boycotted watching the game last night and I’m pissed off that the Dodgers let this travesty happen. I don’t drink and haven’t for five years and took the remaining bottles I have for guests of Bud Light and poured them down the drain. My neighbor’s daughter is getting married and they told me that they pulled the wedding registry from Target. When will these woke companies learn to stop trying to shove this shit down our throats?. In the meantime they’re losing money and market share. I’m sure the Dodgers will lose some fans over last night but not enough to make a difference to their bottom line. As Mark stated this nonsense doesn’t belong in sports. Sports is suppose to be enjoyment and a release from the pressures we face on a daily basis. I hope more MLB players will speak out on this subject.

  61. DavidJune 17, 2023

    Why was Kolarek DFA and Vesia kept?

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