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The Key Word is Don t Panic!

Lots of people are believing the Giants are for real and they may be. They have been consistent up until now, so we have to say that they are real but will they stay real? Time will tell, but you can t help peruse the roster and statistics and ask They did this how? The fact that they are in first place does not really compute, but if we break it

By Mark Timmons7 min readJump to 173 comments

Lots of people are believing the Giants are for real… and they may be. They have been consistent up until now, so we have to say that they are real… but will they stay real? Time will tell, but you can’t help peruse the roster and statistics and ask “They did this… how?” The fact that they are in first place does not really compute, but if we break it down to it’s simplest form, I think the reason is that because they pick each other up. When one guy doesn’t get a hit, the next guy does. It seems that with the Dodgers, everyone hits or no one hits. Consider the following:

  • Kevin Gausman, who has been very good is having his best year ever, at age 30, but has not pitched this many innings since 2018.
  • Anthony DeSclafani has 126 IP and is showing signs of tiring… big time!
  • Alex Wood with nearly 100 IP, has seen his ERA rise as it has been 4.70 over the past 28 days… and we know his injury history.
  • Also with nearly 100 IP, Johnny Cueto has not pitched this many innings in 5 years.
  • Logan Webb is also approaching his most innings pitched in his young career.
  • At age 34, Jake McGee is having his best year ever! EVER!
  • Tyler Rogers has a 1.98 ERA, but it was 4.50 last year.
  • A variety of other pitchers have pitched well out of the bullpen, but their press clippings are largely unimpressive.
  • None of their outfielders would start on the Dodgers… yet go figure!

Can the Giant starters keep it up? Maybe, but the odds don’t favor them. Their infield is old and Crawford, Longoria, Posey, and Belt are playing better than they have in a long time. There are still about 2 months left in the season. Lots can happen. A couple of days ago, Jeff Dominique touched upon what I think is the problem with the Dodgers. It’s the TOTAL LACK OF HITTING SOME GAMES. Robert Van SuckSuck is the Dodgers hitting guru. . I call him that because THIS YEAR ESPECIALLY, the Dodgers score a bunch of runs or none. Initially, his hitting philosophy was modeled after the Ted Williams Method of Hitting: Hunt for pitches you can damage and keep your bat in the hitting zone as long as possible to damage them.

RVS

That’s a solid foundation, but I think the Dodgers have deviated from this plan. I think they are more focused on working the count than looking for a pitch they can damage. Of course, that method does work much of the time. Make the pitcher wear himself out and then murder him. This is not true with every player. Chris Taylor, Max Muncy, AJ Pollock, Justin Turner, and others are his disciples and have recently faired well. Andrew Friedman said this after hiring Van SuckSuck:

We’re trying to avoid games in which we score zero, one, or two runs. Scoring three or more as consistently as we can should put us in position to win a lot of games. What we’re striving for is to individualize our offensive approach and put our guys in the best position to succeed.”

That is a worthy plan and they did it in 2020, but they haven’t done it in 2021. Technically, Robert Van Scoyoc (OK, I’ll quit calling him SuckSuck) is technically the co-head hitting coach with Brant Brown (whose title is “hitting strategist”). They are aided by assistant hitting coach Aaron Bates. So, I have to wonder: are there conflicting theories at work here? I have no idea, but I have to ask. Sometimes too many cooks can… well, you know the rest.

Many of the Dodgers have been so intent to work the count this year, that they often take the first pitch… or two… or three. Pitchers have wised up and have started throwing strikes on the first and maybe the second pitch, and then suddenly, if the hitter is 0-2, he is in a defensive mode. I have always been of the opinion that you look for a pitch in a certain zone and if you can see it, you hit it… no matter what the count. RVS evolved the game, and now other team’s pitchers have evolved to accommodate the Dodgers’ hitting style. If you want a Revolution, the only Solution is to Evolve!

It’s time for the Dodger’s hitters to evolve: See the ball, hit the ball. It ain’t complicated! It’s time to get with it. When you look at the Dodgers players OPS and the Giants players OPS, it’s hard to understand why they are in first place, but it’s all about timing. Look around the diamond and what Giant player would you take over a Dodger player?

Let’s look at it and you decide:

  • Catcher – Will Smith or Buster Posey ?
  • First Base – Brandon Belt or Max Muncy?
  • Second Base – Chris Taylor or Donovan Solano?
  • Shortstop – Corey Seager or Bradon Crawford?
  • Third Base – Justin Turner or Evan Longoria?
  • Left Field – Alex Dickerson or AJ Pollock?
  • Centerfield – Cody Bellinger or Steven Duggar?
  • Right Field – Mookie Betts or Mike Yastrezemski?

If you were building a team for today and the future, you would likely not take one Giant Player over a Dodger Player, even though a couple are having great years (Posey and Crawford). Yet they are ahead of the Dodgers in the standings! The whole is greater than the sum of the parts! The Dodgers are better position-by-position, but the Giants are a better team… at least right about now. It’s like the men’s 4 X 100 race. The American sprinters were all faster than their opponents, yet they finished sixth! Why? They did not work together as a team. Simple as that.

It’s gut-check time! Are you a team or are you just trying t pad your stats? This story is heading into the final chapters. The history is yet to be written. Will the 2021 Dodgers be Champs or Chumps? The stretch run starts TODAY! What will be this teams’ historical record? Will they pull together and pick each other up or will they just keep on doing the same thing they have done all season. The Giants have been consistent bu playing .600 or better baseball EVERY month! The Dodgers have had one month when they played over .600 baseball, but they are capable of so much more. With the team Andrew Friedman has assembled, they can run off two months of .700 ball. They are that good, but they have to play like it… and they haven’t… until now.

WHAT FOLOWS IS STRICTLY MY OPINION: They have traded for Max Scherzer and Danny Duffy. They have signed Cole Hamels. Why? I think the signs are that Clayton Kershaw is going to need Tommy John Surgery. They are holding him out to see if his elbow can hold on by a thread and hope he can be a factor in September and October, but deep down, they know he is finished. Sherzer, Duffy, and Hamels are insurance. It would be a shame to lose Clayton, but the Dodgers are prepared, Clayton will be in the Dugout and will not get surgery, but will rather, retire as the greatest Dodger Pitcher of All-Time. I hope I am wrong about most of this, but I have a feeling I am not!

Sometimes You Have To Act the Part to be it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnXgVcrcyWM

Tt’s Time for You to Wake up, Cody Bellinger. Let’s Ride!

From Bluto on the Last Thread:

Cartaya and Pepiot made Kiley M’s new top 50 Prospect list:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/31958336/kiley-mcdaniel-midseason-top-50-mlb-prospects

The great Eric Longenhagen has this to say about Dodgers righty Hyun-il Choi

He’s experienced a little bit of a velo bump (more 92-95 than 88-92, where he was in 2019) and shown remarkable strike-throwing ability; he’s only run three 3-0 counts all year. A plus splitter, at least plus command, and viable fastball velocity makes him a high-probability big league starter.

Longenhagen also put former Dodger prospects at #1 and #3 in terms of those traded at the deadline:
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ranking-the-prospects-traded-during-the-2021-deadline/

Don’t look now #1, but Andy Pages has been on a tear since mid-July, slashing .380/.494/.761 in his last 20 games. Despite his occasional strike zone deficiencies, he hit his 22nd homer for Great Lakes, 101 mph off the bat, 396 feet, and he went 2/3 with 2 walks tonight overall.

Dodgers signed an undrafted player, Jack @Dreyer from Iowa. Lw-90’s fastball with a curveball, slider, and a changeup. In college he struck out 23 batters in 21.2 innings, limiting them to a .171 batting average.

Don’t look now, #2, but Cameron Gibbens’ 4is promoted and still rocking! Now in AA Tulsa, he had a perfect 2.0 IP debut. Ascending from Low A to AA in a single minor league season is always noteworthy!

Don’t look now, #3, but from FutureDodgers:
The move is not official yet (should be tomorrow), but SS Eddys Leonard is heading to High-A Great Lakes.

He’s been arguably Rancho’s best hitter all year, hitting .295/.399/.544 (146 wRC+) with 14 HR. 11 BB%, 24 K%, 11.6 SwStr%.

Still 20 years old, won’t turn 21 until December

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  1. TMAugust 7, 2021

    I guess we just aren’t that good. Again, we lay an egg against a team we should blow away. And they didn’t even have their two superstars playing.

    Oh well….a year of disappointments continues…..

  2. Watford DodgerAugust 7, 2021

    Time to think about who to start in the WC game?

    Walker or Max?

  3. BearAugust 7, 2021

    1-12 in extra’s and another 1 run loss. Just real hard to take. But, what chaffs me the most is bringing in a guy who has lost all of his games in extra innings. Cleavenger, with the loss tonight, is 0-4 in extra inning games. With a RH up, why the hell did he not use Graterol? He could have walked Ohtani with 1 out and a runner on second. But he lets Cleavenger face Iglesias and boom, they are down 3-2. Then the misplay on the pop up, and it is 4-2. But the killer was wasting Muncy’s lead off double. Never would have made it to extra’s. This team is pitiful with no outs and a runner in scoring position. Wasted another chance to gain on the Giants. Change in philosophy is needed. Turner will get his first start tomorrow.

  4. CassidyAugust 7, 2021

    Ok so I fell asleep and was dreaming!

  5. CassidyAugust 7, 2021

    As I was saying. Another great, clutch comeback by baseballs best lineup! Pollock for MVP!

  6. CassidyAugust 7, 2021

    Another losing blah performance by baseball’s best lineup! I’m not panicked just realistic. This team just doesn’t have it! Or deserve it!

  7. peterjAugust 7, 2021

    Here comes Jansen… 3 up 3 down

  8. JasonAugust 7, 2021

    Not everything.

    This is though.

    How else can not using the speed on the team being used, putting pressure on batteries, etc.

    How often does this team manufacture runs?

  9. BadgerAugust 7, 2021

    McKinney or Joc?

    Elder in California? Yeah, bet your house on it Mark.

  10. JasonAugust 7, 2021

    Dear Lord,

    Its the top of the 6 and Fletcher is causing chaos on the bases, distracting the pitcher, and gets to third on a bad throw with less than two outs.

    Can you please instill this wisdom in the manager in the blue dugout????

    Amen

  11. Evan BladhAugust 7, 2021

    I agree, Betts looks like he’s heading back to the I. L. If he can stay upright and able to jog, he’s worth putting in the lineup the way he’s hitting lately.

    Poor Jimmy Nelson, looked like the bullpen and high leverage situations were in his future. Career might be over.

    I couldn’t figure out the Cole Hamels signing. Now with the news on Kershaw, it makes sense.

    Interesting note: Gubinatorial candidate Larry Elder is in the first row sitting next to Mary Hart’s husband.

  12. Mark TimmonsAugust 7, 2021

    I grow very weary of fans who start with a premise and work backward to fit their own narrow-minded, and ill-informed narrative. I think that instead of doing that, you should get “DUMBASS” tattooed on your forehead.

    I mean, it is “make me want to quit” weary!

  13. Mark TimmonsAugust 7, 2021

    Two sources report that Will Smith is sitting to “rest his legs.” They may have told you something , without telling you something.

  14. Daniel EstradaAugust 7, 2021

    Giants lost

  15. BulldogsandPenguinsAugust 7, 2021

    MLB dicking with the Dodgers again. They couldn’t clear him until a half an hour before the game? Shenanigans!

    Well, Betts did go back to RF after the inning.

    Unhealthiest bullpen I have ever seen.

    Didn’t Doc just say that V-Gone was fine a couple of days ago?

    Muncy fails to move a runner, yet again. Albert says, hold my beer.

    How did people ever come to the conclusion that Price isn’t worthy of a rotation spot?

    Bad news for Nelson after being for essentially three years. He’ll miss all of his age 33 season next year. I expect AF to give him a two year deal in the offseason.

    Barnes is the king of cheap hits. Looks like a line drive in the box score.

  16. Mark TimmonsAugust 7, 2021

    The Big Dodger in the Sky is evidently not happy. Betts is likely headed to the IL again.

  17. Daniel EstradaAugust 7, 2021

    Betts is hurting again…so bad

  18. Andrew Vincent ForteAugust 7, 2021

    Dodgers News: Trea Turner Activated For the Game Tonight in LA

    08/06/21 Los Angeles Dodgers placed LHP Victor Gonzalez on the 10-day injured list.

  19. Mark TimmonsAugust 7, 2021

    Jimmy Nelson is out for the season.

    Elbow surgery.

    That hurts!

  20. EricAugust 7, 2021

    I can’t believe Will Smith is sitting on the bench after an off day and another off day after this series. Where the hell is the urgency? We are 4 games behind the Giants with time going by fast.

    What’s up with Trea Turner not starting? I thought he was at dodger stadium today? Again where is the urgency?

    Why are people talking about Kershaw being done? I haven’t read anything about him being done.

    No Ohtani, Trout, Rendon. We gotta win this one. No excuses.

  21. Mark TimmonsAugust 7, 2021

    I would be fine with sitting Bellinger all weekend… maybe a defensive replacement or pinch runner. Let’s see how he handles that.

  22. BulldogsandPenguinsAugust 6, 2021

    I guess TT still has a touch of the VID. Barnes should never start after an off day, much less after the second in 4 days.

    Doc talks about urgency, then puts Barnes in the lineup with an off day before and after this series. If you want your team to feel some urgency, you should show it in the lineups you choose.

  23. Mark TimmonsAugust 6, 2021

    I would love to see Pujols shove a bat up Arte Moreno’s … never mind!

  24. Andrew Vincent ForteAugust 6, 2021

    Tonight’s lineup:

    RF Mookie Betts R

    3B J. Turner R

    2B Max Muncy L

    1B A. Pujols R

    SS Corey Seager L

    CF Chris Taylor R

    LF AJ Pollock R

    C A. Barnes R

    P David Price L

    No Trea No Cody

  25. Andrew Vincent ForteAugust 6, 2021

    Ramon Laureano Suspended Eighty Games After Positive PED Test

    By Anthony Franco | August 6, 2021 at 4:12pm CDT

    Major League Baseball announced this afternoon that Athletics outfielder Ramón Laureano has been suspended for eighty games without pay after testing positive for Nandrolone, a banned performance-enhancing substance. He’ll miss the remainder of the season. The A’s have 53 games left in 2021, so Laureano’s suspension will carry over for the first 27 games of the 2022 campaign as well.

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