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The Dodgers Should Not Be Here!

… or so said most of the people on this board ! Throughout this entire season, I have read ad nauseum that the Dodgers do not have the team to compete with the big boys, namely Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, New York (both), and Houston. I disagreed then, and I disagree now! I…

By Mark Timmons5 min readJump to 103 comments

or so said most of the people on this board! Throughout this entire season, I have read ad nauseum that the Dodgers do not have the team to compete with the big boys, namely Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, New York (both), and Houston. I disagreed then, and I disagree now! I prefer vision over sight! I saw what JD Martinez could be when re-united with Mookie and Robert Van Scoyoc, and even though Justin Turner is having a nice year as a DH, there was no room for him on this version of the Dodgers, even though he is hitting .286 With a .832 OPS and 16 HR to go with 64 RBIs. Frankly, I am surprised at his level of success, but he is a DH or 1B only – he is no longer a regular player.

I thought that Will Smith would continue to evolve as a hitter, and he certainly has. It takes a special hitter to walk more than he strikes out, and Will Smith is all of that. That is why I have suggested a position change for him. That is so as to keep his bat in the lineup. The only question is, “When do the Dodgers do that?” Someone has to be ready to take his place, and that is not imminent!

I told you that David Peralta would be a solid player for the Dodgers, and after a slow start, he has been a real asset both offensively and defensively. He is currently 3rd on the team with a .284 BA. Of course, he is a platoon player, only playing against RH pitching, but CT3 is a nice platoon partner for him. I suspect that he will generate more HR than he has to date.

I did not envision Jason Heyward having an .802 OPS, but I was hopeful that RVS and company could do to him what they could not do with Cody Bellinger. Isn’t it interesting that sometimes it just takes a different “voice?” I also said that Mookie needed to “step” up and be the superstar that he has been in previous years. He has done that and then some.

Max Muncy appears to be close to returning to his old self. It is frustrating to watch him at times, and I could see the Dodgers moving on from him over the winter, but I think he has a pretty good shot at hitting 40 HR this year. He hits them in bunches. It’s not likely Nolan Aernado will be traded, but they might look at Chapman or fill the spot internally (Busch or Vargas).

Before the season, I saw James Outman as a 4th or 5th outfielder, but at the end of Spring Training, I called for him to make the team and be the starting Centerfielder. He came out of the gate like his hair was on fire, looking like an All-Star. Then they discovered his Kryptonite, and he tanked for two months, leaving us wondering if he needed to go back to OKC. To his credit, he came back and is hitting .306 in July. While not a great Centerfielder, he is improving, and I would not say that he cannot be a very good Centerfielder in the future. He is very adept at evolving.

In his first 183 at-bats of the season, Red Sox Rookie Triston Casas hit .197 with seven homers and 19 RBIs. In his last 88 at-bats, Casas is hitting .341 with seven homers and 16 RBIs. Progress is not linear. James Outman has shown that, and so has Miguel Vargas (although there are some other circumstances at work there). By the way, Vargas was 1-4 with a double and is OPS’ing .956. I know they will call him back up, but it may be after August 1st.

Kershaw will throw a bullpen today and then likely be called up by next weekend. His last bullpen was “outstanding.” Noah Syndergaard will be back in the rotation soon and will be given a chance. I feel the same way about him that I did about Heyward! The Dodgers are not stupid, so they must believe there is a decent chance of success. All he needs to do is be a #5!

Julio Urias is struggling with his release point, but I also believe that he will get back on track. There is nothing to suggest that this is not just a bad streak. There may be some pause about Tony Gonsolin, but I also will ride with him. Bobby Miller is pitching the way he is capable, and Emmet Sheehan will show what he has today. After August 1st, this will be the rotation:

  1. Urias
  2. Kershaw
  3. Gonsolin
  4. Miller
  5. Thor
  6. Pepiot

There’s also Sheehan and Stone, so I really can’t see the Dodgers trading for a starter like Stroman, and if they trade for an Outfielder, it will be one that hits RH, not Cody Bellinger. I heard that the Nationals are open to trading Lane Thomas, and he is just the type of player to platoon with Heyward in RF. He is hitting .383 against LHP and OPS’ing 1.063 against them. The only problem is that the Nats do not have to trade him so it will be an overpay! I will not speculate who the Nats value on the Dodgers, but it would likely take 2 top prospects and another couple of lower ones.

By the way, Keibert Ruiz is starting to show his promise. After a slow start, he is hitting .306 in July and now has a .244 BA with 11 HR. He is still much better against LHP (.303) than RHP (.220). At some point, maybe he will stop switch-hitting!

The Dodgers have come out breathing fire, and whether they win today or not, this road trip is a resounding success, whether it be 8-2 or 7-3. The D-Bags are fading, and along with the Giants, they are both four games back and along with the Padres, they will all be “buyers” at the deadline. Today will go a long way in determining Emmet Sheehan’s immediate future! The Dodgers, as a team, are “Too Legit to Quit!

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  1. DavidJuly 24, 2023

    So AF saying .

    “The market is still developing, as there are a number of teams still on the fence, but we expect that to crystallize more in the next week,” said Andrew Friedman, the Dodgers’ president of baseball operations. “We will be aggressive in our efforts to add to this roster, and there are different obvious and potentially creative ways to do so.”am will ‘be aggressive’ at deadline. So there you have it!!

  2. QuasimodoJuly 24, 2023

    The Dodgers are not moved to fear of missing out on possible trades because of a so called ‘deadline’ we’ve all seen Dodgers shake the baseball world more than once with a blockbuster multi team trade after any deadline. And if you think about it there is likely better options further down the road if the Dodgers choose to get fancy. But I don’t think they are likely to make a reset more difficult to start next season. Pat seems the wise move now as it proved so starting this season. Things are moving along pretty damn smoothly I’d say.

  3. Saxfan3July 24, 2023

    I’ll be very surprised if Friedman doesn’t add a starting arm to the rotation at the deadline. We need at least three quality starters for a playoff run. Quality as in giving up 4 or less runs in min 5 innings work. Kershaw is the only one I feel confident about. Miller’s got a shot, but I don’t think the Dodgers want to depend on a rookie if they can help it. They’re probably banking on Urias coming through. I don’t think the 3rd guy is on the roster at the moment. Another reason for a trade, Mark has previously pointed out. Too many prospects, not enough spots on the 40 man.

    Great introductory taste in the big leagues for Sheehan. He should come away feeling he exceeded expectations and his future is very bright in LA. As any athlete knows there’s a de-loading phase in training and Sheehan is still very much still in training. He’s going to set a personal high innings very soon, so I think the team sends him to AAA shortly and reduces his innings per start. If he fine tunes the command, I think he still makes the post season roster. In the meantime, I’m looking forward to seeing Stone get an extended second chance.

    I watched Casey’s interview with Vargas. Interesting, he’s not making any mechanical changes, but rather hoping he’ll re-find his confidence with success down there. If that’s the situation, I’m not real confident he’ll be back this year. So far, the numbers are encouraging, but I don’t think it’s enough to disrupt the current splits they have going. I think they value defense and position flex at this point in the season- not Miggy’s strong points.

  4. Watford DodgerJuly 24, 2023

    Been having a think, and if we want a deep run into the Post Season we’re gonna need another frontline Starter.

    Now I know the obvious answer is that “they won’t trade him to the Dodgers”, but how about soon to be Free Agent Blake Snell?

    If SD did trade him to us, it would only be as a Rental (we could sign him as a FA in the off season anyway).

    There must come a moment soon where SD has to face facts and realise that this season is a bust and change direction and become sellers at the TD?

    Everyone has a price, and surely if the Dodgers offered the best deal it makes commercial sense to trade with us?

    I’ve always rated him, and I know his numbers this season are down, he has Post Season pedigree and would give us a much better punch in a short series.

    I’ve looked around at the Starter Market and there’s not much to be had.

    We need to trade some of our Prospects or lose them in rule 5.

    Time to push some chips in.

  5. SCDodgerFanJuly 24, 2023

    What do you think of Cincinnati’s Matt McClain? He does strikeout too much.

  6. Duke Not SniderJuly 24, 2023

    BTW, while Mark suggests that “most of the people on this board” said the Dodgers “shouldn’t be here,” I thnk the opposite is true.

    By “here” I assume Mark means n first place in the West, or among the prime contenders for the postseason and ultimately the World Series. My impression is that most of the fans here have always been more optimistic than pessimistic about the Dodgers. To me the biggest surprise is how Mookie has energized and stabilized the team by moving to the infield–a great validation of Friedman’s decision to offer than $300m+ contract to take him through his career.

    So yeah, it’s good to be a Dodgers fan.

    Can you imagine how the Padres fans are feeling?

  7. Duke Not SniderJuly 24, 2023

    Giolitto was solid today against the Twins. He threw five shutout innings, striking out 9. Gave up six hits and three walks–but most importantly kept them from scoring.

    It was Graveman, also the topic of trade speculation, who lost the game, giving up 3 runs in an inning of relief

  8. Duke Not SniderJuly 24, 2023

    During the offseason, many of us here–you know who you are– were strongly pushing the idea that the Dodgers should make a bold run at the Pirates’ Bryan Reynolds, a budding star who wanted out of Pittsburgh.

    Seemed like a reasonable idea, because the OF then was Mookie and some question marks: Trayce, Heyward, Taylor and maybe the rookie Outman. (Peralta was signed later, probably because of the question marks.)

    And because the Reynolds’ contract carried a few more years of team control, we knew the Pirates would ask a steep price. We amateur GMs advanced various trade proposals, often including Outman since the Pirates would need someone to replace Reynolds. And the Dodgers would probably want to sign Reynolds long-term, adding to the price.

    But then the Pirates signed Reynolds to a $106 million extension through 2030, so he was out of the picture.

    Anyway, Reynolds hit a HR against the Angels today. What surprised me was that it was only his 10th. Seems low, right? Shouldn’t Reynolds be playing like an all-star? Had an injury lowered his production?

    I looked it up.

    Nope, no long-term injury.

    The 106-million-dollar-man has played 85 games, and is second on the Pirates in ABs at 328. He’s played to a .757 OPS, with a .259 BA and .324 OBP. With 10 HRs, he’s on pace to finish with about 17.

    I assume that Outman is earning the major-league minimum—but his stats are remarkably similar.

    He’s played to a .752 OPS, with a .241 BA and a .330 OBP. With 12 HRs, he’s on pace for about 20.

    It’s impossible to know what Reynolds might have done with the Dodgers, of course.

    But I’m glad the Dodgers didn’t make that trade.

  9. BradleyJuly 24, 2023

    Okay Dodgers go and get Montgomery DeLong and Tyler O’Neil for Pepiot Busch and Thompson there a realistic trade a infielder that can help and a outfielder that can help. Either that or Stroman Wisdom and Happ from cubs.

  10. DavidJuly 24, 2023

    So if Mookie is going to play second and Lux comes back next year at short( or switch the two around depending on Lux’s knee) then that seems to make Vargas available.

    So if we are making up impossible trades I would send Outman and Vargas to the Cubs for Bellinger. And throw in some young pitcher.

  11. BradleyJuly 23, 2023

    Starting pitcher two at deadline a better hitting shortstop and a platoon right-handed hitting outfielder that’s what we need at trade deadline. Let’s see Adamme would improve hitting shortstop and how about Jessie winkler from the Brewers since most think we can’t get Yerich who by the way leads off for the Brewers so for those that said he can’t hit anymore why is he the leadoff hitter then with trading with Brewers they will want some major league talent so how about Busch pages and stone. Fair trade let’s look at what I said dodgers need a everyday shortstop that can hit check that off a platoon outfielder um get that with winkler or Yelich check that off okay now we really want to make a splash in starting pitching so we get Sherzier back from the Mets and Robertson reliever for the Mets we need both if those guys. And then we look at the cardinals and flip a coin either Montgomery or Flarethy from the cardinals oh an the have an outfielder there by golly named O’Neil so we use propects to get those pitchers and another outfielder. So we added two outfielders two pitchers and one shortstop and didn’t lose any of our players just moved pieces around and added for the playoffs these players to what we have.

    Scherzer

    Montgomery

    Yelich

    Addames

    O’Neil

    Robertson

    DeLong

    We lost these prospects

    Pages

    Stone

    Busch

    Vargas

    Leonard

    Rivers

    Thompson

    Pepiot

    I think that’s what the fans want add so players with experience in the playoffs and then see what we can do in the playoffs

  12. BlutoJuly 23, 2023

    Is there anything more fun than using a fake name to post 3-team trades before the trade deadline?

    Comicon maybe, but other than that….

    Dodgers GET:

    Civale SP 25.9

    Renfroe OF 0.6

    Juan Brito 2B 8.7

    Jake Madden 2.7

    Angels Get:

    Busch 2B 18.3

    Frasso SP 9.3

    Guardians

    Grove SP 10.6

    Ward OF 24.6

  13. Johnny GentleJuly 23, 2023

    Miguel Rojas has 0 homers.

    He should not start another game for us.

  14. CassidyJuly 23, 2023

    Dodgers go 6-3!on the road trip with the starters era at 6! What!!!!!!

  15. Johnny GentleJuly 23, 2023

    Damn, maybe Barnes IS a problem.

  16. Andrew Vincent ForteJuly 23, 2023

    Nothing will change in the NL West standings as both the Midgets and Snakes both lost.

  17. DavidJuly 23, 2023

    So I guess this is the Muncy when he is BACK. Grand slam and three Ks

  18. Dodger dadJuly 23, 2023

    He knows Emmit is headed out after this. Saving the bullpen! For what? It’s the fifth inning! We’re still in this game!

  19. NorcaldodgerfanJuly 23, 2023

    CK is probably to be activated soon to take Sheehan’s spot in the rotation.

    Still need to send him down, he shouldn’t get another start. Clearly not ready for the big leagues. Appreciate that he came up when we had injuries but he’s not ready.

    Giants down 6-1 in the 9th inning, D-Backs losing by one run in the 7th. Hope those scores hold and we can come back in this one.

  20. OldBear48July 23, 2023

    To the tune of Tequila Sunrise. It’s another Dodger dud Sunday, stretching out way to damn long.

  21. OldBear48July 23, 2023

    Rangers pounding the kid tight now. Get him out of there Doc.

  22. CassidyJuly 23, 2023

    You can’t be a one pitch starter in the big leagues especially with no command! When he’s sent down he should only be allowed to throw off speed stuff and learn to develop his slider, slerve and change up. And Mark, Max isn’t waiting for his mid March deadline. Tho another K with runners second and third with one out! Frustrating

  23. Dodger dadJuly 23, 2023

    Barnes fouling off pitches! Oh well, we’ll get em next time!

  24. Mark TimmonsJuly 23, 2023

    Sheehan just punched his ticket back to AAA. All his walks scored. Self-inflicted wounds!

    Stone or Knack may get the call, but Stone may be the one because he is already on the 40-Man… depending on how he does today.

  25. BradleyJuly 23, 2023

    Wouldn’t Ward be a better trade target for the Dodgers since he plays Leftfield for the Angels. Renfroe would be more power and could play Rightfield and pinchit off the bench that would improve the bench in the playoffs. I wish they would get a backup catcher from someone to that catcher that won the mvp at allstar game from the Rockies and like Gurchick would improve the bench for playoffs and keep the core players for the dodgers.

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