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The Case for Keeping Matt Kemp

When the Dodgers traded for Matt Kemp, it was a salary dump, a bad attitude dump as well as the opportunity to acquire a young, power hitting catcher with mad framing skills. I embraced the trade for all the reasons it was made. While he could be charming, Matt Kemp was frequently a malcontent prima donna in the lockerroom. I felt he was a poison, so I was excited to

By Mark Timmons9 min readJump to 71 comments

When the Dodgers traded for Matt Kemp, it was a salary dump, a bad attitude dump as well as the opportunity to acquire a young, power hitting catcher with mad framing skills.  I embraced the trade for all the reasons it was made.  While he could be charming, Matt Kemp was frequently a malcontent prima donna in the lockerroom. I felt he was a poison, so I was excited to see him go even though he was responsible for one of the most electric moments I have ever seen in baseball.

Here’s the story:

Manny Ramirez was the darling of LA and Ned Colletti invited all the bloggers in for Bloggers Night on May 6th, 2009.  At that meeting in one of the Dodger Suites, Josh Rawitch (then the Dodgers Director of Communications) announced that in the near future, the Dodgers were going to break with tradition and allow bloggers into the pressbox on a limited basis.  After, the meeting I approached Josh privately and said “Look, since I have come all the way from Indiana and everyone else in in the LA area, I think it’s only fitting that I should be the first blogger to sit in the Pressbox.”  To my surprise, he said “OK.”

As I was driving to Dodger Stadium the next morning, Jared Massey called me and said that Manny had been suspended.  I thought he was joking and then turned on the radio and heard it was no joke.  I got to the ballpark early and tagged along with Tony Jackson to the Pressbox, Locker Room and all over the stadium. Josh explained to me beforehand that I could not wear Dodger gear in the pressbox and that I had to maintain neutrality, meaning I wasn’t supposed to cheer for the team. It was then I was granted a “Working Media Pass.”

That became problemmatic and I was tested early when the Dodgers loaded the bases in the first inning, and with one out, Matt Kemp hit a Grand Slam  to CF!  I almost jumped out of the pressbox, before I realized I wasn’t supposed to be doing that. What a moment!  Manny was just suspended and the Dodgers came out with guns blazing.  I wish I could say it had a happy ending, but it didn’t.  The Dodgers lost 11-9 with Ramon Troncoso, Cory Wade, Brent Leach and James McDonald giving up 10 runs in the 7th, 8th and 9th innings. But, that is the story of how I became the first blogger to be issued a “Working Media Pass” for Major League Baseball at Dodger Stadium.  What a day! The picture to the right was taken that very day.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming:

The longer Matt Kemp is on the Dodgers roster, the more likely he will make the Openig Day Roster.  Now, a lot has to happen for that to occur:

  1. No other team  will offer enough money or prospects for FAZ to trade him;
  2. He needs to get into the best shaped of his life;
  3. He has to play better defense (and he can – he has in the past – he was never a Gold Glove, even though he won one, but he was OK); and
  4. He also needs to clean up his attitude… and I mean a lot!

That’s a lot that needs to happen, but it could.  Andrew Friedman has talked to him and evidently been totally upfront with Matt and while I am not holding my breath or counting on it, Matt Kemp could have the opportunity for an encore performance at Dodger Stadium in 2018.  They say you can never go home… and maybe you can’t… but maybe you can.  Matt Kemp has very little value which is why he was traded for very little value, but in 2016 Matt Kemp put up these numbers:

  • 39 HR
  • 108 RBI
  • .268 BA
  • .755 OPS

He still has a career OPS of .826 and has OPS’ed over .900 twice. Tell me that 39 HR would not look good in the 6th or 7th spot! Toles or Pederson could be his defensive caddy in LF.  Frankly, it’s a longshot… but it could happen.  It also could happen that some team agrees to pay $16 million of his $42 million dollar deal, and if they do, he is gone.  A guy can still dream, right?

Finally, I am publishing Houston Mitchell’s Dodger Dougout E-Mail.  If you haven’t signed up for it, I recommend that you do.

Houston Mitchell – Dodgers Dugout:

Hi, and welcome to another edition of Dodgers Dugout. My name is Houston Mitchell, and I’m wondering if Rihanna is happy Matt Kemp is back in L.A., if only for a short time.

Big deal

So Saturday brought some big news. The Dodgers traded Adrian Gonzalez, Brandon McCarthy, Scott Kazmir and Charlie Culberson to the Atlanta Braves for Matt Kemp. What the heck is going on?

What’s going on is money. This was a straight payroll dump for both teams. Let’s take a look at the players involved and what they are scheduled to make.

Adrian Gonzalez: He will be paid $22.357 million in 2018 by the Braves, who released him the same day they acquired him.

Brandon McCarthy: He will be paid $11.5 million by the Braves in 2018. Atlanta has him penciled in as a starter. McCarthy played three seasons with the Dodgers, going 11-7 with a 4.51 ERA in 29 starts. For that, he got paid about $36 million.

Scott Kazmir: He will be paid $17.7 million by the Braves in 2018. Atlanta also has him penciled in as a starter, and hopefully that pencil has a good eraser, because the Dodgers paid him about $30 million over two seasons to go 10-6 with a 4.56 ERA in 26 starts.

Charlie Culberson: He will get a lot of playing time with Atlanta, which is close to his hometown in Georgia. I liked Culberson a lot, and hopefully he gets a nice ovation when the Braves visit L.A. next season. He had 80 regular-season at-bats in his Dodger career, but he will always be remembered for the game-winning homer he hit in Vin Scully’s final home game, and for doing a great job filling in for an injured Corey Seager in the 2017 NLCS, going five for 11 with two doubles and a triple. He followed that up by going three for five with a homer in the World Series. He will more than likely make a little over the major league minimum in 2018.

Matt Kemp: He is owed approximately $43.5 over the next two seasons. He is no longer the player he once was, and is regarded by most as one of the worst defensive outfielders in baseball. It is extremely unlikely he actually ends up playing for the Dodgers, as they are expected to trade him or just release him before the season. As Andrew Friedman said on the day of the trade: “I was very open and honest with him about what the future might hold. It’s just too difficult to say, definitively, at this point.”

So, what does all this mean? This is all about the Dodgers getting under the payroll luxury tax next season. Each season, Major League Baseball sets a payroll threshold. If a team goes over that threshold, they have to pay a penalty. Each year they go over the threshold, the penalty they pay increases. The first year you go over, the penalty is 20% on the dollar (for example, if you are $1,000,000 over the threshold, you owe $200,000). If you go over for a second straight year, you owe 30%, for the third and subsequent consecutive years, you owe 50%.

The Dodgers have been over the threshold for the last two seasons (2016-17). The team was assessed a $36.2-million tax this year, based on a season-ending payroll of $253.6 million.

Thanks to the way contracts are valued under the collective bargaining agreement, Saturday’s trade puts the Dodgers under the 2018 total payroll threshold of $197 million. They currently have a payroll of approximately $173 million. They still need to add a few bench players/relievers, so they will probably go into 2018 with a payroll of $175-$180 million.

Why is this so important? Because, once you come in under the payroll threshold, your penalty resets. So, if in 2019 the Dodgers go back over the threshold, their penalty will be 20%, not 50%. And the 2018 off-season will be filled with top free agents, such as:

Charlie Blackmon

Josh Donaldson

Bryce Harper

Clayton Kershaw (assuming he opts out of his current deal)

Dallas Keuchel

Craig Kimbrel

Manny Machado

And that’s just to name a few. So this trade was all about positioning themselves to sign a couple of big names after the 2018 season, in which they are still favored by most to win the World Series.

Or, as Friedman said when this was pointed out, “Oh, I hadn’t noticed. Is there a big free-agent class next winter?”

Farewell Adrian

It is sad to see Adrian Gonzalez go. He was the heart and soul of the Dodgers offense for many seasons before his back gave out on him, and was one of the most popular Dodgers of all time. He had this message for Dodgers fans after he was traded (Gonzalez had to waive his no-trade clause for the deal to go through):

“My final decision was not based on playing time as I had agreed to a limited bench role. It is a way to test the free agent market and see what opportunities are out there for me so I can make the best decision moving forward for me and my family. Lifting the no-trade clause is the hardest decision I have ever made in my career due to the fact that I loved every single second being a Dodger.

“I have talked through this whole process with Andrew and the Dodgers organization and they are giving me this opportunity to see if there is a better fit for me somewhere else. As the roster stands right now, there might not be a spot for me on the roster.

“I want to thank the Dodgers owners for being the best owners I have ever played for. Also my coaches and teammates because with them we had an amazing five years together. And most importantly to all the Dodgers fans, no word or phrase can describe how grateful and blessed I am to have been a part of their cheers and support.

“The entire Dodger nation welcomed me with open arms and took me in right away. Thank you for everything to the fans and the city of LA. You will always be in my heart. This closes a chapter for me, but not the book.”

And finally

Who are the greatest Dodgers of all time? Look for more on this after the holidays as I turn to you to help decide. Start thinking about your top 10 all time. Brooklyn and Los Angeles. Player, owner, announcer, any person with a connection to the Dodgers counts. Voting will begin in January. Until then, enjoy your holidays!

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  1. HawkeyeDodgerDecember 18, 2017

    I think your list is dead on Mark, but it doesn’t take into account of the harmonious locker room the Dodgers have had for the most part the last 3 years with each year getting better than the next. Even Greinke said his last year in LA, the Dodgers had a great locker room. The only person Puig would want to be around less than Mattingly is Kemp. Sure, Kemp had to deal with knuckleheadness of Puig, but Kemp was also jealous of the new star in town that was taking his position in RF and they bumped heads multiple times. Poor Matty didn’t want to play LF and now he’s barely a passable in LF. Kemp, Hanley, and Beckett were moved out of that locker room and things got a lot better.

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    For him, it’s not really about does he want to be a Dodger again. It’s do I collect the last two years of my contract and ride of into the sunset or do I get my fat ass into shape, help a ball club, and maybe extend my career a couple of years. He needs to watch Money Ball because the talk that David Justice got is where he’s at now. Multiple teams have been willing to pay money for him to leave.

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    The chances of having him around Seager, Bellinger, Buehler, Verdugo, Toles, the more mature Puig and the rest of the young players is very very slim. They were willing to pay Carl Crawford $21 million to go away and he was well liked by everyone. Kershaw and JT won’t want him back. Doc saw his routine in SD so I have a hard time believing he would want him in his locker room too.

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    Dodger Stadium isn’t the most difficult outfield in the world to play, but why bother. Is he going to be any better than Toles/Kike platoon or a Joc/Kike platoon? Why block Verdugo? If the Dodgers can’t move him then maybe he’s allowed to show up to ST to show other clubs that he’s in shape so they can try to move him then, but I doubt it.

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    To me the real question is, which team might give the Dodgers 33 cents on the dollar to take him off their hands. At this time, I don’t buy Boston. The Yankees just added Stanton to a loaded lineup with a loaded bullpen. The Red Sox have to answer with someone better than Matt Kemp. Plus, Matt Kemp doesn’t have the demeanor to handle playing in Boston if things don’t go his way. Every star in the AL East who don’t play for the Skankees or Red Sox is being shopped now. Boston is the only team that can give the Yankees a race so they don’t need Matt Kemp. They are thinking Hosmer or Martinez.

  2. BumsrapDecember 18, 2017

    39 HR

    108 RBI

    .268 BA

    .755 OPS

    .

    He had 40 stolen bases as well and in his last game in San Diego he hit a ball that was caught against the right center field that would have been a home run in any other park. That would have been 40.

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    But, I am not impressed with a .755 OPS or only 108 RBI for someone that hits 39 home runs. That tells me there was a lack of clutch hits for someone that was near MVP.

  3. will uhlerDecember 18, 2017

    What American League Team could use Kemp for $5-10 million per year?

    Can he be bundled with some combination of Grandal, Thompson &/or Pederson?

  4. dodgerrickDecember 18, 2017

    One of the underappreciated things about this trade is just how futile the strategy of signing the old and infirm to fill out the starting rotation has been. Note what Mitchell said here:

    “McCarthy played three seasons with the Dodgers, going 11-7 with a 4.51 ERA in 29 starts. For that, he got paid about $36 million.

    “the Dodgers paid him (Kazmir) about $30 million over two seasons to go 10-6 with a 4.56 ERA in 26 starts.

    $66 MM for 5 years of Kazmir and McCarthy combined – 21 – 13, ERA over 4.50. This money (as well as that doled out to the likes of Brent Anderson) was simply not well spent.

    Please – no more injured/injury prone pitchers!

    I was a big fan of Matt Kemp’s at one time. A part of me would love to see him put on the Blue again. BUT – if his attitude is bad, and if he’s still in bad shape and can’t play any defense, why would the Dodgers keep him?

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