Should We Worry About the Pitching?
I ll get right to the point: You always worry about pitching! So, there is that. However, I do not think we should be overly concerned about pitching on this 2018 version of the Dodgers. A number of Dodger Fans are questioning the Dodgers rotation as well as the Dodger bullpen. Some say that the Dodgers only have one pitcher who can start and go more than four or five innings.

I’ll get right to the point: You always worry about pitching! So, there is that.
However, I do not think we should be overly concerned about pitching on this 2018 version of the Dodgers. A number of Dodger Fans are questioning the Dodgers rotation as well as the Dodger bullpen. Some say that the Dodgers only have one pitcher who can start and go more than four or five innings. I would suggest that statement is misleading. I think the Dodgers BY CHOICE, do not allow their pitchers to go more than 4 or 5 innings… except for Clayton. Actually, Alex Wood had 16 starts where he went 6 or more innings and Rich Hill was deliberately held back over blister concerns. Ryu was on his first full season back from surgery and Maeda did have issues as a starter.
Ryu’s performance on Saturday did not inspire confidence, but I don’t think it was as bad as some might think. According to Ken Gurnick of Dodgers.com, here’s what Doc said about the outing:
“Where he’s at this year in Spring Training, where he was at the last couple of years, considerably ahead of it. A lot of good things today.”
Ryu sat in the 89-92 mph on Saturday and hit 93 in his last start, which was well above where he was at last spring training. Everyone thinks Ryu’s arm is stronger this year than last… we shall see, but there is hope.
The reason that I don’t think it is necessary to overly worry is because of (drumroll…..) DEPTH! If Ryu or another starter goes down, the Dodgers have options. The first option is Ross Stripling… which is why he is being stretched out. The second option is Striker Buehler who is ready for the show. The third option is likely Julio Urias who MIGHT be available after the All-Star Break.
Then, it gets dicey, but there is no need to panic because of DEPTH. They Dodgers can make a trade for a starter IF NECESSARY… but it may not be necessary, so why do it? Of course, they could always wait until after the draft this year and then give Alex Cobb a $48 million 4 year deal, which is better than he’s going to get anywhere else. If the Dodgers are considering (1) cutting salary so that they might be able to add another starter; and (2) moving Yasmani Grandal in his walk year, then right about now (due to how well he is hitting) might be a good time to try… I’m just sayin’….
When Tom Koehler went down, the bullpen changed somewhat. I think some thought he would be the 8th inning guy, but that was yet to be determined. However, it is looking more and more like he may be back sooner than later. No one has a clue when that will be.
There are a bunch of others fighting for spots in the pen- we all know their names, but if enough of them don’t cut it, it’s time to use the “DEPTH” Card… and FAZ will if it is necessary. That’s why I am not overly worried. Let’s see what happens…
- Here’s something that I thought was interesting as reported by Ken Gurnick: “Kershaw chose to pitch at home, even though it means facing a division rival. There’s a chance he will face buddy and former teammate A.J. Ellis, who is fighting for a Padres roster spot. Ellis joked he’s been working with Yasiel Puig on bat flips for when he takes Kershaw deep. Kershaw responded by suggesting Ellis make the team before he talks smack.” OUCH! Clayton, that’s your old buddy!
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Discussion (49)
Disagree, not disagreeable
Bad news, but the injury opens the door for someone else.
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Also there were some more cuts –
Open on www.truebluela.comhttps://www.truebluela.com/2018/3/19/17141750/adam-liberatore-jake-peter-donovan-solano-dylan-baker-dodgers-roster-movesOpening Day I’d go:
CT3
Seager
Puig
Belly
Kemp
Kike
Forsythe
Barnes
Kersh
I am going to make a bold prediction that Turner isn’t in the opening day lineup. RATS
JT wrist is broken. Let’s see how long it takes for him to return, but give it 8-10 weeks at least.
Was that really Pedro Baez? He was ready to pitch when he got the ball back. Wow! This is different…
The existence or absence of pain does not correlate to a broken bone. Now we wait and see what the x-rays or MRI says about Turner. Even Ray Charles can see it hurt a lot.
A JOC JACK!
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Cody too…
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But it was good to see Joc get one.
I wonder what this would do for the lineup. Does Puig move to 3rd between Seager and Belly? Do you lead Toles off at times and have CT3 bat 3rd?
Turner left in 1st after getting in on the hands.
Went down quick.
ice and x-ray time for JT
Obviously meant, safe travels.
This is Ross Stripling’s 3rd year in the Bigs.
Year 1: 1.26 WHIP
Year 2: 1.18 WHIP
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Now if he can improve this year, we might have something. He also improved his ERA in his second year. I think he will get better, but he’s not our 8th inning guy.. at least not yet!
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El Gasolino? Can’t argue…
Mark, save travels. I will be in Cape Haitian and Romeo 2nd week of April. I guess I won’t need to bring as much bottled water as I had planned on.
Thanks for your good work down there.
Many good points. I need to see two pitchers in other teams’ uniforms this year: Ross Stripling and ESPECIALLY Pedro “El Gasolino” Baez. Both have had ample opportunity to improve and to show what pitchers they can be. Neither is young enough anymore to hope their potential pans out. They are what they are going to be, especially Baez.
I can live with Stripling strictly as a long reliever and emergency starter, but if he ends up on the roster, please oh please stop using him in late inning pressure situations!! I know he’s cheap, but he has shown time and again where his strengths lie, and those strengths don’t include late-inning short relief. Give his roster spot to Walker Bueller! I’d also like to see what their ambidextrous pitcher, Pat Venditte, can do, although I admit I just think it’d be cool to watch a switch-pitcher for awhile strictly for the novelty of it.
As for Baez, the Dodgers keep thinking he will grow into something other than who he has shown himself to be. They are enamored with the raw ability in his arm. However, he is now 29 years old. He ain’t changing. Sure, he throws hard and has good movement on his fastball, but he throws nothing else well and has shown with frightening regularity that he will groove a pitch right down the middle of the plate at exactly the wrong time. Baez often looks really good through July, but has shown time and time again to melt down under the heat of a pennant race! While the following still have good trade value, package Baez along with Joc Pederson (too many holes in his swing–will always struggle with consistency) and maybe Yasmani Grandal (last year of contract on a club with a ton of catching depth) in a trade for a dominating 8th-inning closer-caliber reliever and more pitching depth. As of yet, I see no righty currently on the club who can replace Morrow as the set-up guy. Address this need please, and NOT with Bye-bye Baez!
Ross Stripling signed a 1 year / $550,000 contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers, including $550,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $550,000. In 2018. He is 28 and a free agent in 2023. He has synced with Dodger players as he once shared a house with Seager, Thompson, Pederson, and Wood. He had one of the marriages this off-season that was attended by teammates. His time is now.
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Stewart is 26 and doesn’t have a contract. He needs to improve on a third pitch and if he can, he will be second up to the rotation after Stripling. Financially, getting on the 25, even as a reliever, is important to him. I have always liked him and appreciate the advantages and disadvantages of him being late to pitching. He is an ex-shortstop and has low miles on his arm and less time to develop that third pitch.
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Buehler and White are solid second half of season pitchers.
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Shifting Maeda to the bullpen probably solves any problem the Dodgers might have for an 8th inning setup pitcher later in the season.
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I am comfortable with the pitching depth.
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I think I agree with #1. I was very upset/surprised/nervous when we yanked hill after 4 innings pitched in that game. I was hopeful but feeling like we might’ve made an unnecessary mistake.
Gammons on the NL West on (in?) the Athletic. It’s a pay model, so I won’t post much of it, but:
1. He writes the WS hinged on Kenley’s long game 2 stint and the Gonzalez HR.
2. Sabean is amazed with the Dodgers recent dominance over the division.
3. Tells people not to snicker at Kemp with an anecdote.
4. Says “There are right-handed bullpen questions to be answered, but Andrew Friedman and Farhan Zaidi love compiling depth. They will try to open the season with at least 10 bullpen options in Majors and Minors….
The loss of so-called pitching depth is mostly an illusion. How many innings did McCarthy and Kazmir pitch in the past 2 seasons?
2017 – McCarthy – 16 starts, 92 innings
Kazmir – 0 starts, 0 innings
2016 – McCarthy – 9 starts, 40 innings
Kazmir – 26 starts, 136 innings
Neither of these guys are reliable. While there is no doubt that the Dodgers have multiple starting pitchers who will spend time on the DL this year, the Braintrust has stopped signing the walking wounded to pitch and has opted instead to use the youngsters for pitching depth. I have no problem with this, except:
* It doesn’t make any sense to say that Stripling is going to be a reliever who pitches an inning or 2 at a time but will be expected to work as a starter as needed. They either need to stretch him out as a starter or not.
* Will Font still be available if he is needed? He’s not having a stellar spring but he’s not likely to make the team out of Spring training and will likely be claimed if he’s sent down since he’s out of options.
* It doesn’t look like Stewart is really destined to be a starter.
* Is Buehler ready?
* Will Urias ever pitch again?
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I expect the Dodgers will make a deadline deal for a starter again this July.
The next 10 days are important to players like Baez and Pederson.
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I was pleased to hear the Dodgers might go with 7 relievers instead of 8.
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Peter has regressed to norm but he made an impression.
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My prediction is that both Toles and Pederson are o the 25 to start the season.
Up to now players seem to have played every other day. Does anybody know what they do when they are not in the lineup. Prospects come into the game after the players that started that day get 3 at bats but the advanced players haven’t seen game action when they haven’t started.
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Might Taylor and Hernandez spend their off days working in the infield.? Might Pederson spend his time in the batting cages?
Kershaw – 203 Innings
Wood – 181 Innings
Maeda – 156 Innings
Hill – 169 Innings
Ryu – 173 Innings
Stripling – 102 Innings
I agree with you guys on the bull pen. Chargois and Vinditte should be on the team. Baez should go to AAA to learn a second pitch. Something he should of done this winter. What will happen is that Baez will be on the team and Vinditte will go to AAA. Doc and management really do go with veterans first. They are given a chance to prove they belong or play themselves off the team.
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I believe Ryu is going to have a god year. This is his second year after shoulder surgery. I may be more worried about Hill than Ryu.
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I feel the same way on Joc. I think Toles should be on the team. However, I can see them keeping Joc and sending Toles down. I think there is some frustration with young players who feel they are playing better than some players the Dodgers keep. ST is just that to Doc and management. The veterans will get their opportunity first.
I always worry about the rotation but I guess instead of worrying you should have a plan in place to take care of any issues that come up.
Last year the starting rotation pitched in 126 games with a combined 64- 30 won-lost record. Kershaw had 27 starts, Wood, Hill, and Maeda had 25 starts each, with Ryu starting 24. In the 36 games started by other pitchers, this is the breakdown.
McCarthy started 16 games, going 6-4 and pitched 92.2 innings. Darvish started 9 games. going 4-3 and pitched 49.2 innings. Urias started 5 games, going 0-2 and pitched 23.1 innings. Stewart started 4 games, going 0-0 and pitched 13.2 innings. Stripling started 2 games, going 0-0 and pitched 5 innings. That’s 10 wins, 9 loses, and 184.1 innings the Dodgers have to plan to equal or to improve on.
If the starting rotation can come close to last years starts then it might come down to Buehler and how many starts and innings he can give the team, plus Stewart and or Stripling. Urias might be ready to help late in the season but I would rather see him not rush and be 100% ready for next year.
if we really do have a surplus of outfielders, maybe swapping one for rotation depth would be wise. if possible. i’m personally glad we stopped building that endless “colletti bridge” to the future, but the next wave of pitching shouldn’t be rushed. do we have enough between now and then? we’ll find out. i’d rather see buehler as next man up then a john lackey signing or something. the kids will lead us to our next glory.