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Russian Roulette

Fans are still thinking about the offseason and espousing that the Dodgers need to sign a couple of starting pitchers. This is especially true after Julio Urias was arrested yesterday under charges of Felony Domestic Violence. They throw out names like Jack Flaherty, Marcus…

By Mark Timmons4 min read27 comments

Fans are still thinking about the offseason and espousing that the Dodgers need to sign a couple of starting pitchers. This is especially true after Julio Urias was arrested yesterday under charges of Felony Domestic Violence. They throw out names like Jack Flaherty, Marcus Stroman, Jordon Montgomery, and others. I would liken signing any of those guys to playing Russian Roulette. After you sign them, most of the time, you will end up with fewer brains! That reminds me of a skit by the Comedian Wild Bill Bauer about Russian Roulette.

I have never played the game, and nor will I ever play it, and I think Andrew Friedman is smart enough not to play it as well. If you want to get a glimpse of starting pitchers whom Andrew Friedman and Brandon Gomes might acquire, look no further than the past five:

  • Lance Lynn (Total Cost: $7.5 Million) – He is a solid pitcher who was having his worst year, pitching in an expiring contract with no further obligations. The Dodgers were hoping that a tweak here and there could make him an effective starter – so far, it is working! The $7.5 million listed as his contract ($6.5 Million pro rata) will likely be bought out for $1 Million Dollars. The Dodgers are not going to pay him $18 Million for next year… maybe $10 Million!
  • Noah Syndergaard (Total Cost: $13 Million) – Thor came to the Dodgers with the hopes he could be fixed. Sadly, it was a total failure. But AF got Ramirez for him… so there is that!
  • Tyler Anderson (Total Cost: $8 Million) – Tyler was the total antithesis of Noah Syndergaard. He came to the Dodgers with a career ERA of over 4.25, and the Dodgers weaved their magic with him. However, they refused to sign him to a three-year deal, and he left… only to revert back to what he once was.
  • Andrew Heaney (Total Cost: $8.5 Million) – He was another success story… until he got hurt.
  • Trevor Bauer (Total Cost: $65 Million) – Andrew Friedman was prepared to pay him $105 Million over just three years, but we all know what happened, as he was a total bust for the Dodgers. Never speak of this again!

One only has to look at the past to figure out what is going to happen in 2024. You are playing Fantasy Baseball, but Andrew Friedman is playing Reality Baseball. Lots of and here wished for Stephen Strasburg, who was fresh off carrying the Washington Nationals to a World Championship in 2019 and was the MVP. The Nats signed him to a $245 Million deal, and he has never thrown another pitch. He is now out of baseball, and the Nats have to pay him every dime.

Quick! How many long-term Big Dollar contracts with pitchers pay off? Gerrit Cole… maybe, but beyond that, it is a game of Russian Roulette! The Yankees signed Carlos Rodon to a deal through 2028, which pays him $140 Million after this season, and he has been total crap! Plenty of Dodger fans begged AF to sign him. Let me give you some advice: Don’t play Russian Roulette! Keep growing your own! Sign a “Project” occasionally – if they don’t pan out, it doesn’t hamstring you. Anderson, Heaney, Syndergaard. Oh, you will hear that the Dodgers are “in on X Player” – that is just Russian Disinformation!

The Dodgers might sign Lance Lynn for the right price, and there might be another signing, but most of you won’t like it. It will be for someone like Tyler Anderson, and people with sight will not like it. Andrew Friedman has vision. Grow them on the Farm and maybe trade for or buy a pitcher you believe has “upside.” Stay away from Free Agency. It ain’t “Free.”

What About Julio Urias?

I have NO OPINION about Julio. Maybe he is a woman beater and a misogynist, or maybe he is not! There are plenty of wife-beaters out there, and they need to be throttled. I would give them a choice of prison or having someone beat the hell out of them. It’s never OK to beat a woman (and it’s never OK for a transgender man to compete with real women … but I digress).

On the other hand, maybe his wife is Fucking Crazy, and when she doesn’t get her way, she does this stupid stuff. It does happen. Men are not perfect, and neither are women. I have no clue, but if he beat her, then shame on him. It could also be a “shame on her.” This requires Due Process of Law as guaranteed by the 14th Amendment! The Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause guarantees procedural due process, meaning that government actors must follow certain procedures before they may deprive a person of a protected life, liberty, or property interest.

Julio was accused of a misdemeanor once before, but she said that she “slipped.” Whatever! I have no clue what is happening, but if he sticks with her and she is that freaking crazy… that is on him! It could be totally on him… or it could be on her. Time will tell… maybe!

We know very little about this, so I will not jump to any conclusions.

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  1. WayneSeptember 6, 2023

    Amed & Kiki now officially struggling at the plate.

    Clayton with continued shoulder problems pitched helpless today – lucky to get out with only 3 runs.

    Notwithstanding Buehler possibly back by the playoffs…

    ALL THREE Dodgers playoff starters will be inexperienced (albeit talented) youngsters. Carve it in stone!

    The new youth era begins shortly — whether the Dodgers or us fans like it or not.

  2. Duke Not SniderSeptember 6, 2023

    Something I wonder about….

    Should the MLB try to rein in hitters with huge, dangerous backswings?

    My impression is that it is only in recent years that hitters have adopted the practice of releasing the top hand on a swing, which enables these long backswings, often with extra force from the tongue of the batter’s torso. I was taught to hold the bat with both hands. Many players, including Trout, still take this classic approach.(I was troubled seeing my son’s teammates being taught to release the top hand. Wh

    On the broadcast today Rick Monday seemed to fault Barnes for getting hit. I think its safe to assume that catchers are not inclined to deliberately put their noggin in harm’s way. At any rate, batters don’t have to have a reckless, nexaggerated backswing. This is a problem with some–a minority, I believe. To my knowledge, the batters are rarely faulted and not subject to discipline. A pitcher who hits a batter can get thrown out of a game. One, in fact, recently was for retaliating against a batter whose backwing nailed his catcher.

    So how about a two-game suspension for batters who smack catchers? For a second offense, make it 5 games. And so on. It really shouldn’t take much to change this dangerous practice.

  3. nonicnamebumfanSeptember 6, 2023

    Turned on the game late ,why was Smith catching. He was listed as DH

  4. Dodger dadSeptember 5, 2023

    Tucker Barnhart anybody?

  5. NorcaldodgerfanSeptember 5, 2023

    It feels like this may be CK’s swan song. Four BB’s in just 3.1 innings worked and he’s laboring badly.

    I think he calls it a career after the Dodgers win the WS

  6. BlunderfullSeptember 5, 2023

    Hi in Sky

    https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT82rEwYT/

  7. Andrew Vincent ForteSeptember 5, 2023

    Dodgers minor league playoff schedule

    Tuesday, September 12

    Great Lakes at West Michigan/Fort Wayne, Game 1

    Rancho Cucamonga at Inland Empire/Lake Elsinore, Game 1

    Thursday, September 14

    4:05 p.m.: West Michigan/Fort Wayne at Great Lakes, Game 2

    6:30 p.m.: Inland Empire/Lake Elsinore at Rancho Cucamonga, Game 2

    Friday, September 15

    4:05 p.m.: West Michigan/Fort Wayne at Great Lakes, Game 3*

    6:30 p.m.: Inland Empire/Lake Elsinore at Rancho Cucamonga, Game 3*

    September 17-20

    Midwest League championship series

    California League championship series

    Tuesday, September 26

    TBD at Oklahoma City, Game 1

    Wednesday, September 27

    TBD at Oklahoma City, Game 2

    Thursday, September 28

    TBD at Oklahoma City, Game 3*

    September 30

    Triple-A championship game

  8. Andrew Vincent ForteSeptember 5, 2023

    6:40 PM ET

    Dodgers (84-52)

    Marlins (70-67)

    SP Clayton Kershaw L

    12-4 2.48 ERA

    SP Jesus Luzardo L

    9-8 3.62 ERA

    Confirmed Lineup

    RF Mookie Betts R

    1B F. Freeman L

    DH Will Smith R

    2B Amed Rosario R

    3B E. Hernandez R

    LF Chris Taylor R

    CF James Outman L

    SS Miguel Rojas R

    C A. Barnes R

    In Domed Stadium

  9. SCDodgerFanSeptember 5, 2023

    Can’t a player in the organization on August 31st be eligible to be called up & still be in the post season? They don’t need to be on the 26 man roster on September 1st, or do they?

  10. BoboSeptember 5, 2023

    Really only a few need to take the advice, and I suspect they are and will. The decision makers. ( with a sign of relief too )

  11. Mark TimmonsSeptember 5, 2023

    I am going to caution everyone to wait for the evidence in the Urias Case.

    1. There is allegedly a video. What does it show?

    2. If he was hitting his wife, she should have bruises.

    3. What does she say?

    4. What do bystanders say?

    Lawyers Know This:

    Eyewitnesses can provide very compelling legal testimony, but rather than recording experiences flawlessly, their memories are susceptible to a variety of errors and biases. They (like the rest of us) can make errors in remembering specific details and can even remember whole events that did not actually happen.

  12. Jorge ValenzuelaSeptember 5, 2023

    One question, hypothetically speaking, if the Guardians release Giolito, and luckily the Dodgers take him, would he be eligible for the playoffs? (Yesterday he had a horrible debut with CLE)

    And yes, I know, he is having the worst season of his career, and that there are a thousand better options, and that there are many teams that are first, etc etc… I know, I know, but that was not my question

  13. OC DodgerSeptember 5, 2023

    Julio had his chance along with a redo. This Urias “incident” must drive Boras nuts because Julio has taken something that could have set him up for life and dumped it into the toilet. For the Dodgers, this creates the easing of a tough decision. Dealing with Boras for a new contract on a pitcher whose velocity is down about 5 mph, was gonna be tough. It no longer is and there is about a month to find a plan B. So, I am going to try to focus on moving forward for the Dodgers while Julio will always wish he had not beat up his lady. I just don’t get it why some people (or their handlers) can’t avoid the near occasion of sin and can do stupid, self destructive things to themselves and their families. Time to move on.

  14. Mark TimmonsSeptember 5, 2023

  15. BobbySeptember 5, 2023

    Any of you old timers ever seen Buddy Guy live?

    I have tic for tomorrow’s show at the Hollywood Bowl, and I think it’d be awesome to see him perform in person

  16. BorninBrooklynSeptember 5, 2023

    I know their as rare as hen’s teeth but just maybe the Dodgers could fine a knuckle baller( junk thrower) not only do they eat up innings but it can mess up a team in next game .

    Flame throwers seem to be a dime a dozen then their arm breaks down .

  17. Mark TimmonsSeptember 5, 2023

    Buehler hit 96.1 MPH in his first outing. It would seem that he would add a MPH or two in his next 2-3 outings. The Athletic released their Weekly Power Ratings and the Dodgers remained at #2. Grant Brisbee said this:

    Ruh roh. Only way to put it. It’s a technical scouting term. You see a fantastic team like the Dodgers doing what they’re doing with a rejuvenated rotation and possibly getting a chance to add an All-Star and perennial Cy Young candidate back to the rotation?

    Ruh roh. Only way to put it. — Grant Brisbee

  18. WayneSeptember 5, 2023

    Imagine if this Julio thing would’ve happened 4/5 wks later instead of yesterday. Egad! At least now the Dodgers have ample time to adjust to this punch in the gut.

    Surely the Dodgers aren’t overly concerned about physically replacing Urias in the rotation. They’ve got plenty of other arms to handle his absence the rest of this season and into the playoffs. And considering Julio’s wildly inconsistent year, AF and Roberts might’ve already been planning for a Urias-less rotation anyways.

    The problem with this Julio thing (at least in the short run) may be the negative emotional and psychological effects it has on everyone else. Urias isn’t just a player, he’s also a teammate, human being, and possible friend to at least some of the other Dodgers. Hopefully those guys can quickly shake off this distraction so it won’t hurt their performance going forward. But for sure, a damper hangs over this team that must be overcome ..quickly.

  19. OldBear48September 5, 2023

    Kershaw tonight, and Lynn tomorrow against the Marlins. No starter listed for Thursday. Giants now 15 back and the D-Backs are 14 back. SD lost too as the Phillies knocked Dick Mountain around. Turner hit his 22nd homer. He has a 15-game hitting streak where he is hitting close to .400. Getting closer to his career numbers.

  20. CassidySeptember 5, 2023

    As per yesterdays posts. I didn’t hear anyone pining away for Seager last year. If we had resigned Seager would AF have then pursued Freddie? And Freddie is an all time productive sign considering his contract!

  21. OldBear48September 5, 2023

    Julio was actually arrested by the Park Police who are in charge of the area around the soccer stadium next to the coliseum. A post from someone who worked at the stadium was posted on twitter. According to her, her friends pulled Julio off of the woman while they were near a fence. He was hitting her at the time, then they observed them getting in a car and he was still hitting her when the police arrived and got them out of the car. There were plenty of people with phones around so maybe a video surfaces later.

  22. sbuffaloSeptember 5, 2023

    Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander. Greinke’s deal was six years, but he opted out. He continued to pitch well. So, it does happen. Greinke originally wanted 7 years, $175 million. They should have done it with no opt out. The opt out was Colletti’s idea.

    More likely to Mark’s point, most long term pitcher contracts end badly.

    Too much injury risk or simply a failure to stay at a high level.

    Then again, many big contracts go bad. Just ask the Angels about Anthony Rendon. Glad he didn’t like Hollywood.

    A short term deal with Flaherty would be worthy of a look. He needs to show that he can be elite in order to pursue a long term deal. Dodgers might help him reach that goal. Pretty good pitcher at one point.

    Maybe Anderson would be better with the Dodgers than the Angels. He certainly looked like a different pitcher last year.

    Some of the Dodgers are in on this player or another may actually come from the Dodgers, part of a misdirection plan to keep other teams guessing.

    During an interview a few years ago, Friedman admitted enjoying all the rumors about the Dodgers, especially those without grain of truth.

  23. WayneSeptember 5, 2023

    One last comment on the previous mascot article–

    It was said that mascots exist mostly to annoy the opposing team .. maybe so. But that definitely wasn’t the case with the famed Crazy Ray (real name Wilford Jones) of the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys–who roamed the stands and sidelines during home games as the team’s “unofficial” mascot for 46 yrs up until his passing in 2007. Long-time DC fans will always remember him as a beloved figure because he supremely entertained THEM much more than he “annoyed” the other team.

  24. Duke Not SniderSeptember 5, 2023

    It was reported that AF wanted Tyler Anderson to take the one-year qualifying offer– $19.65 million–but Anderson opted for the security of a 3-year deal at lower AAV from the Angels. He hasn’t had a good season, but we don’t know how well he’d be pitching with the Dodgers.

    Unfortunately, AF gave a three-year deal at $34m AAV to the wrong pitcher….

  25. Duke Not SniderSeptember 5, 2023

    Ugh.

    Oh well. At least this simplifies the postseason rotation a bit. The good news is that Buhler seems ready to step back on the mound. And maybe Gavin Stone could get another look. Sure do wish we also Eduardo Rodriguez right now. (Eduardo probably does.)

    Assuming good health, the rotation could be Kershaw, Miller, Buhler, Lynn…..

  26. Johnny GentleSeptember 5, 2023

    Game 1: Kershaw

    G2: Miller

    G3: Lynn

    G4: Pepiot/Yarbrough

    I guess Buehler exists too.

  27. ZekeSeptember 5, 2023

    Not thinking about the offseason at all, enjoying this season very much. What happens to Urias, happens. Got games to be played no need to whine or whimper. Love the young pitching we have in the organization, we will be just fine. Lots of positives for years to come.

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