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Ross Stripling should be better than he is. In 50+ innings this year, he has given up 6 HR after giving up 10 home runs last year in 100 innings. Also, I hear that Ross is not very happy being a reliever he sees himself as a starter, but he really needs to learn how to pitch better. His stuff does not play well up in the zone. Ross

By Mark Timmons2 min read64 comments

Ross Stripling should be better than he is.  In 50+ innings this year, he has given up 6 HR after giving up 10 home runs last year in 100 innings. Also, I hear that Ross is not very happy being a reliever – he sees himself as a starter, but he really needs to learn how to pitch better. His stuff does not play well up in the zone.  Ross has no business throwing belt high 94 MPH fastball over the middle of the plate.  His curve is excellent but he needs to keep it down.  He has no chance of starting for this team at the moment, so I would suggest that he adapt and be the best relief pitcher he can possibly be or he might be left off the playoff roster. Ross needs to change his mindset… and pitch location. It’s as simple as that.  No bull!

The bullpen has not been good in August and they have had a proclivity for the long ball.  No bull. However, the bullpen is still near the top in ERA.  It’s Red Sox 3.01, Indians 3.03, Dodgers 3.08, so the Dodgers have the best bullpen ERA in the NL and they lead all of baseball in WHIP.  The Cubs have the second best bullpen ERA in the NL with a 3.44.  The Nationals bullpen ERA is 4.99. If you are a glass half empty person, you are going to freak out about the bullpen’s difficulties of late. Over the past 14 days, the Dodgers bullpen ERA is 5.30.  In July it was 2.41.  In August it is 6.00 so far, which is the worst it has ever been this year.

If you are a glass half-full person, you might realize that it is a long season and there are going to be bumps in the road.  I also look at the arms in the pen and I realize that for the playoffs, Ryu and Maeda will likely be in the pen with Jansen, Baez, Morrow, Fields and two more pitchers who are deemed worthy.  This is the list they have to pick from:

  • Buehler
  • White
  • Avilan
  • Font
  • Hatcher
  • McCarthy
  • Paredes
  • Stewart
  • Dayton
  • Cingrani
  • Watson
  • Ysla
  • Stripling

I think they can find two good arms in that bunch.  I also think Ross Stripling will figure it out. Even after last night, Ross has a 3.67 ERA.  That’s not great, but not horrible.  There is a lot of time to go and games to play.  Trust the process!  No bull!

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  1. IdahoalAugust 13, 2017

    Sometimes I do not like Grandal’s play calling. I like high fastballs sometimes, but to call 2-3 high fastballs in a row is not smart in my opinion. I was always taught we may throw 2-3 fastballs in a row but never in the same location. I have said this before. If you miss a high fastball and get it down just a little, it is gone. After the first two hitters got on in the 9th, I would of been living down at the knees. Jansen has a good slider. Then come up for the strike out. Grandal also does that to Stripling. Like Mark said, Stripling is not capable of throwing up there.

  2. Jorge ValenzuelaAugust 13, 2017

    http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=20327536

  3. HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017

    Dusty says hyperextended but MRI on Sunday.

  4. HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017

    Utley asked ump to move so he could see home plate. The ump refused so Utley voiced his displeasure and got a quick hook. Ridiculous.

  5. Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017

    What the what?

    Utley was thrown out… why?

    This is America. Isn’t there freedom of speech?

    Rookie Umpire. Send him back to Rookie ball.

    • HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

      That was stupid. I tried cranking my TV to hear what Seager said to Forsythe at the end. Figured it was about the ejection.

    • Vegas DodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Utley rarely argues so I would tend to side with him, but hard to say what he said to the umpire. I think a vet like Utley should be given a bit more rope than most players. I miss managers like Lasorda who would give the umps the garlic and get tossed on purpose to protect his guys. Earl Weaver and Billy Martin put on some good shows too and remember Piniella tossing the base? Good times!

  6. the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017

    I was looking at that as well Vegas, its going to come down to the wire between those two, hopefully JT keeps doing what JT does

    Seems like yesterday we were a couple games behind both Colorado and Arizona, speculating who our future lead off hitter was

  7. Vegas DodgerAugust 13, 2017

    I think AGon can really help the lineup, he is a professional hitter even though his power has declined. He can still make all the plays at 1B but his range is not the same as Cody’s. A lot of pitchers pitch around Cody if they have a place to put him and I don’t blame them. JT better get busy because Blackmon had 4 hits tonight and is around .330 now. I’m tired of Rockies winning the batting title year after year.

  8. Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017

    I like A-Gon at #6 at this stage of his career. Puig would be great at #5… if he doesn’t freak out!

    • the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Mark, you can just blame Hawkeye and myself if it fails

      • Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017Reply

        I’m fine with trying it… Puig is a knucklehead at times. That’s all I worry about.

      • HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

        Can’t look any worse than Joc right now.

  9. QuasimodoAugust 13, 2017

    Shame on me! I was starting to have doubts about my Dodgers tonight and then Puig took the style of a seasoned vet….especially with that fancy arm movement tagging home plate.

  10. Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017

    If Puig can keep the same mindset at #5, then cool. I am not sure he can…

    • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

      That is exactly like I feel!

    • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Mark

      Cody still hits, with Joc and Forsythe hitting fifth.

      • Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017Reply

        Cody is a smart player. Joc… not so much!

    • HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

      It’s worth a look for a series.

  11. the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017

    Taylor

    Seager

    Turner

    Bellinger

    Puig

    Gonzalez

    Grandal

    Forsythe

    This way the speedsters are not slowed by GONZO. Puig maybe sees better pitches with GONZO protecting him instead of HILL/RYU/DARVISH/KERSHAW/MAEDA/WOOD.

    Come on guys/gals, once/maybe twice? I know I know, Puig and #8 have become the thing, but I am itching to move him up when Agon comes back, Joc has to go, Agon needs to play and can protect him better then our starting pitching staff.

    • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Agone is supppse to be back in Detroit.

    • HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

      I like it if Puig can handle it.

    • Vegas DodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

      I like that lineup a lot, at least against RHP. You are right about Gonzo clogging things up and we need RBI guys behind the meat of the lineup. I like Forsythe in the 8 hole too the way he tries to work the count. I think swap out Utley against RHP. He had two deep flies tonight and will do some damage in the post season.

  12. the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017

    THAT WAS AWESOME

  13. the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017

    Harper torn ACL/PCL apparently

    • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Just Terrible!

    • HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Could be a hyperextension.

  14. HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017

    How about we get the coldest two hitters on the team out of 5 and 6 hole.

    • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Corey finally broke the ice!

      Got to love Puig there too!

      • HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

        I loved the way Puig acknowledged Seager right away. Puig should be hitting 5th right now.

        • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

          I’m a little afraid of moving him.

          But Joc and Forsythe don’t provide any protection, for Cody!

          But he still hits!

          • HawkeyeDodgerAugust 13, 2017Reply

            This version of Puig shows less anxiety. It’s worth a look until either Gonzalez takes that spot or the other three find there swings.

  15. Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017

    I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO done with Joc Pederson. The experiment is over. There is nothing to see here, folks… move on.

    • Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Did I mention that he is also dumb?

    • the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017Reply

      LOL

  16. the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017

    Joc average drops to .220, 7 LOB

    Over it.

  17. the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017

    *might HAVE dropped a tad

    • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Truth

      Machado blew out both of his knees, within one year, I believe.

      • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

        But your right Harper depends on his knees more, because he is in the outfield!

  18. the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017

    MJ, correct, this was his free agent year, signed a one year extension with the Nats for $21.65 million in May, def a good thing for him. If this is serious, you would think his stock might drop of tad.

  19. Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017

    Bryce Harper just blew out his knee.

    • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Mark

      Did you see the video, I just did.

      It looks terrible with the way he fell.

      Reminded me of when Machado hurt his knee at first, but a lot worse!

      • Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017Reply

        Very ugly

        • the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017Reply

          That could be a lengthy one, terrible, just signed that one year extension to

          • MJAugust 13, 2017Reply

            Truth

            It is a good thing he signed that extension, or this would be his free agent year, right?

  20. Vegas DodgerAugust 13, 2017

    Myers deked out Joc, who did not come up ready to throw and dared him to throw him out at 3rd and the throw was offline. He would not have run on Puig, that’s for sure. I loved the aggressiveness of Taylor tagging and going home on Renfro when he knew it would take a perfect throw home after a difficult catch in foul ground with his momentum taking him away from the play, and he threw an offline 2 hopper to the plate.

  21. dodgerrickAugust 13, 2017

    Dodgers have announce that Chris Hatcher will be activated soon and that Gonzalez shortly thereafter. I get Gonzalez, but Hatcher?

    • Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Hatcher is tantalizing… but will be on a short lease.

  22. Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017

    Joc Pederson is not smart. Not a smart player! I think the Dodgers would be better off with Taylor in CF. He should start playing there soon. Joc will not be on the playoff roster.

    • the truth hurtsAugust 13, 2017Reply

      Second that, cheers to Agon hopefully returning to form

      • Rudy ByrdAugust 13, 2017Reply

        Joc has only left seven runners on base tonight (so far). I don’t see the problem.

  23. Mark TimmonsAugust 13, 2017

    If Adrian is healthy and productive, this would be a very lethal lineup:

    1. Taylor CF

    2. Seager SS

    3. Turner 3B

    4. Bellinger LF

    5. Forsythe 2B

    6. A-Gone 1B

    7. Grandal C

    8. Puig RF

    That could be a potent lineup

  24. SoCalGrinchAugust 12, 2017

    For a minute I thought you had invoked the mercy rule–when 10 games ahead of the next best team in baseball you can only start 8

    • RichieFAugust 12, 2017Reply

      Haha. Haven’t thought much about Joc lately, too depressing

      • the truth hurtsAugust 12, 2017Reply

        Understandable Richie

  25. RichieFAugust 12, 2017

    Tonite’s lineup where we start another winning streak and stay above .700

    Taylor -LF

    Seager- SS

    Turner-3B

    Bells -1B

    Grandal-C

    Utley- 2B

    Puig -RF

    Ryu – P

    • RichieFAugust 12, 2017Reply

      Woops. Left out Pedersen -CF who slots in between Belly and Grandal

      • Rudy ByrdAugust 13, 2017Reply

        Understandable.

  26. Bobbie17August 12, 2017

    Calhoun in LF for Rangers farm team. Brian Moran is lights out for Tulsa in the bullpen. I think he might be a career minor leaguer.

  27. the truth hurtsAugust 12, 2017

    We have options, this is what you get for being 16 games in first place, 10 games for the best record in baseball and playing the…..San Diego Padres…..just hope the guys can stay motivated right now.

    I am excited to see if AGON can return to form. Listening to MLB network last night they were talking about his return and the importance of his bat in the postseason. I think we will need the experience AGON brings when dealing with multiple Aces and elite bullpen pitchers that we will be facing, just his presence alone changes things.

    I move Bellinger to left and Taylor to center, Agon back at first, Joc the odd man out. I really don’t think any of the kids will have an issue with the heart and soul of this club for the past five years returning, especially Bellinger. We need his bat in the lineup for October, not just for DH and pinch hitting purposes.

    The Dodgers are due a WS, not even a NL pennant since 88. 95/96/04/06/08/09/13/14/15/16 gave me enough time to enjoy regular season and SOME postseason success for a lifetime. This is WORLD SERIES WINNER or bust for me, I am over the failures, second place is the first loser.

  28. Bobbie17August 12, 2017

    I noticed from earlier in the season that Stripling isn’t so good at throwing the high fastball. Usually the target is out of the zone,high, and he has a hard time getting it that high. The pitch ends up in the strike zone usually very hitable. The catcher shouldn’t call for that location so often for him. For him the target should be low every time. He pitches downhill and that is where his best control is. I agree that he should learn to be better at the high pitch. Easier said than done. I also agree that he probably wants to start. It will have to wait until next Spring and we see how the rotation shakes out.

  29. SpokaneBobAugust 12, 2017

    Just a couple of thoughts about yesterdays thread.

    First I disagree that if we don’t win it all this season means nothing. It means a lot to me right now. It is an historic season, not only for the records but also for the emergence of Cody and Chris. so far this has been the most enjoyable and fun season that I have ever experienced.

    Certainly not achieving our goal of World Champs would diminish our season but I am not going to worry about that because I believe that this team is different than the team models of the past. We have been very consistent since the end of April. We have not experienced any prolonged slumps and I don’t believe we will. The team as built and the mindset that Doc has instilled in them does not depend on the production of a few key players. The depth of quality players and type of players that Faz has acquired has produced a team that’s not subject to slumps. The team mind set of focus on one game at a time makes me believe that we will continue to play well straight through the end of the season and right into the post season. We are not the Mets or the Mariners.

    I also believe that what got us here will carry us through the playoffs and right into the World Series. I am not going to stress about what might happen in October because I BELIEVE that this is OUR year.

  30. dodgerrickAugust 12, 2017

    IN this most outstanding season of Dodgers’ baseball, the big picture is important. Others around baseball have started looking at the Dodgers’ bullpen as a possible weakness to be exploited in the post-season. I posted about it yesterday, but for people who didn’t see the article, here is the link:

    https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2017/8/11/16125246/dodgers-playoffs-predictions-matchups-weaknesses-strengths-platoon-bullpen

    The Dodgers will probably have an 8 man ‘pen. I agree with you about the 4 probable keepers from this year’s pen. Will they keep 2 starters? Maybe.

    We don’t know who the September callups will be and how they will be used. It is possible that a Font or Buehler will pitch well if they are called up and will make the post-season roster, but unlikely. I figure that Avilan will likely make the ‘pen if he is healthy as he has been the most effective lefty in the ‘pen this year so far. I assume that Watson will be given every chance to make it too as he is a former closer who has not pitched well this year but has good experience. I doubt that if both starters are kept for the ‘pen that another long man will be kept.

  31. HawkeyeDodgerAugust 12, 2017

    Stripling nibbles too much. I prefer him in long relief. If Maeda and Ryu both make the playoff roster, Stripling is the odd man out most likely. He wasn’t fooling anyone last night.