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L. A. Dodger Trades The Good and the Bad.

Since the deadline is just a few days away, I thought it might be fun to look back on some of the trades the Dodgers have made over the years. Some were significant in helping the team win, others, well they just were not all that good or popular. Winter: 1958 On the 4th of December, the Dodgers sent Gino Cimoli to the Cardinals for OF Wally Moon and P

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Since the deadline is just a few days away, I thought it might be fun to look back on some of the trades the Dodgers have made over the years. Some were significant in helping the team win, others, well they just were not all that good or popular.

Winter: 1958 On the 4th of December, the Dodgers sent Gino Cimoli to the Cardinals for OF Wally Moon and P Phil Paine. Cimoli had broken in with the Dodgers in 1956. In 1957 he hit .293. But he dipped to .246 in 1958. Moon, a former ROY in 1954. He also had a down year in 58, batting only .236. This was after 4 years of being over .290. Paine was 5-1 with the Cards in 58, but never pitched for the Dodgers. In fact, 1958 was his last season in the majors. On the 2nd of April, 1959 they received back SS Maury Wills from the Tigers. It was the second time Wills had been returned to the organization. In 58, he was returned from the Reds. It was not a huge move at the time, but it would become one of the best moves made.

Wally Moon

In June, at the deadline, yes the deadline used to be June 15th, they traded Inf. Dick Gray to the Cardinals for OF Chuck Essegian, and P Lloyd Merritt. Another seemingly under the radar move that would have a huge impact later. Merritt would never don the Dodger uni. Meanwhile these 3 players, Moon, Wills and Essegian would be huge contributors to the 1959 World Championship team. With Reese retired and Zimmer having an awful year, Wills took over as the starting SS and he would stay there until he was traded after the 1966 season, winning an MVP award in 1962 and bringing the stolen base back to the game. Essegian cemented himself in Dodger history with 2 pinch hit HR’s in the Series. Moon, well he hit over .300, played LF almost every day, and became a legend for his HR’s over the screen at the coliseum. Moon Shots as Vinny would call them, became a part of Dodger lore.

In April, 1960 they traded Don Zimmer to the Cubs for minor leaguer Lee Handley, SS Johnny Goryl, and P Ron Perranoski. While this trade did not help the 60 team defend it’s title, Perry would have an impact as a closer in the coming seasons, and later, a long tenure as the Dodgers pitching coach. Another transaction of note came in July, when they released P Tommy Lasorda, and he began his climb to becoming the manager of the Dodgers. The Brooklyn connection was slowly moving on. None of the trades made in 1961 helped the team much, but Demeter, Essegian and backup catcher Joe Pignatano all were sent elsewhere.

Ron Perranoski

The expansion draft in the winter of 1961 cost them 6 players. Most notable were Gil Hodges, Norm Larker and Turk Farrell. They sent Neal to the Mets in December. The only deal they made in 62 which would impact the 63 Champs was Stan Williams to the Yankees for 1B Bill Skowron. Skowron did not have a great year in 1963, but in the series he hit .385 with a 3 run HR. After the season he was sold to the Senators.

In the winter of 1963, they made another deal that would impact Dodger teams for many years when they again got a LH relief pitcher from the Cubs, Jim Brewer, for P Dick Scott. They also received C, Cuno Barragan. In April of 64, they made another deal that would impact a Championship team. Larry Sherry, 59 World Series hero, was traded to the Tigers for journeyman OF, Sweet Lou Johnson. Of course, at the time he was considered nothing more than a 4th or 5th OF. The other deal that would have a huge impact on the 65 team was made at the winter meetings in 64. Frank Howard, Phil Ortega, Ken McMullen, and Pete Richert were sent to the Senators for P Claude Osteen and SS John Kennedy. Dick Nen would be sent to DC to complete the trade on the 15th of December. The only addition that meant anything was when in May when they activated coach Jim Gilliam to the active roster. He would prove vital to the teams success playing 3rd base. Johnson became a regular in early 1965 because Tommy Davis had a horrific injury on a slide. Sweet Lou was a fan favorite and had some big hits. Pitching was the strength of the team with Big D, Sandy and Osteen leading the way and then winning a 7 game series with the powerful Twins.

Claude Osteen

In December of 65 they got Phil Regan from the Tigers for SS Dick Tracewski. The Vulture would be a big contributor to the pennant winners. But none of that helped in the World Series. They were rolled over by the Orioles in a sweep. The biggest loss after the 66 season was the retirement of Ace Sandy Koufax due to his arthritic elbow. Maury Wills, who had begged out of the Japanese tour saying his legs were really banged up, incurred the wrath of owner O’Malley when he found out Wills had been seen playing his banjo in a Vegas nite spot. So in December, he was traded to the Pirates for Bob Bailey and Gene Michael. Tommy Davis was sent to the Mets along with Derrell Griffith for Jim Hickman and Ron Hunt.

From 67 until 1973, the team never rose above 2nd place. And usually, except in 1971 when they finished 1 game back of the Giants in the west, they were not close to making it to the playoffs. Home grown players would be at the forefront the next several years, but two trades in December of 1973 would have a huge impact on the 1974 World Series team. First they traded Willie Davis to the Expos for P Mike Marshall. Then the next day they sent Claude Osteen and a minor leaguer to Houston for the Toy Cannon, Jimmy Wynn. They had made a blockbuster deal with the Braves in the winter of 1972 trading Frank Robinson, Billy Grabarkewitz, Bill Singer, Mike Strahler and Bobby Valentine to the Angels for Ken McMullen and Andy Messersmith. In April they made an under the radar trade that would pay dividends in later seasons. P Bruce Ellingson went to the Indians for Pedro Guerrero.

Mike Marshall

In May of 75 they traded for Burt Hooton. Then that winter they made another blockbuster deal with the Braves getting Dusty Baker and Ed Goodson for Jimmy Wynn, Tom Paciorek, Jerry Royster and Lee Lacy. Baker would be the left fielder for the next several years. 1976 would be Walter Alston’s last year at the helm. He left the team with a couple games left in the season and Tommy Lasorda took over. They made a trade in June with the Cardinals that brought Reggie Smith to LA and sent Bobby Dethridge, Fred Tisdale and Joe Ferguson to the Birds.

Dusty Baker

Smith would have a huge impact the next few seasons on pennant winning teams. In January of 1977, they made another trade that would impact pennant winners and a World Series champ. Bill Buckner, who had a serious ankle injurie earlier was sent to the Cubs along with Ivan DeJesus and a minor leaguer for Rick Monday and Mike Garman. They won pennants in 77 and 78 as we all know, and had a down year in 1979.

1980 was a bounce back year of sorts. They had received P Jerry Ruess from the Pirates for Rick Rhoden. They had signed over the winter a young lefty out of Mexico named Valenzuela. They got close, getting tied for the division and then losing a one game playoff. Which I remember well since I was in the hospital having an operation. They made no major trades during the 1980 season.

Jerry Reuss

1981 would be a magical year. Valenzuela made an emergency start on opening day. He threw a complete game and Fernandomania was about to be born. They did make a trade in the winter of 1980 that brought Kenny Landreaux from the Twins. The chronicle of that year is well documented. And in a strike year they won their 4th title in Los Angeles.

Over the next several years they would get close to winning the pennant only to fall short. The infield was slowly traded away or left, as Garvey did via free agency. Smith and Monday retired. And the new blood from the farm began to arrive. In 1983 they made a trade with the Reds that I have always thought they should not have. They sent LH reliever John Franco to the Reds for SS Rafael Landestoy. Landestoy was mediocre at best, and Franco became one of the best relievers in the NL. Same year they traded another lefty to the Mets who I thought they should have kept, Sid Fernandez.

Not being in the race the next few years meant no significant trades. A lot of minor ones. Then in the winter of 1986 they gave up on Greg Brock and sent him to the Brewers for P Tim Crews and Tim Leary. They traded for John Shelby in the summer of 87. He would be important to the 88 winners.

They also got Jay Howell, Alfredo Griffin and Jesse Orosco in a 3 team deal during the winter. Orosco inadvertently would light a fire with a spring training prank and the rest is history. The 88 team won when every one thought they should not. It was truly magical to watch. Clutch hits, and even more clutch pitching.

After that, 32 years of waiting until 2020. A lot of trades made that did not get them to the dance until 2017. Heartbreak in the series a couple of times. Then finally the big prize again. No need to rehash the ones we wish they would not have made. We all remember sending Pedro Martinez to the Expos for Deshields. The Piazza debacle. Under the radar is maybe the Jeff Shaw-Paul Konerko deal. It was Lasorda’s only trade as GM. It was a need trade. They needed a closer and Konerko was the price. To me it was lucky he did not have the career he had for the Reds. He became the hitter he was when he went to Chicago to play for the Sox.

What will AF do this time? Me, I have no clue what so ever what he might have on his mind. Some trades when a favorite of mine has been sent away, I have been pretty upset about it. None more than when he traded Kemp. I personally thought he got fleeced. Mark and I had some spirited conversations about the trade. He was a huge supported of Yasmani Grandal. I held his PED suspension and his mediocre glove against him. I knew he had some power but not nearly the power and RBI bat Kemp had. He praised his pitch framing ability which I believed is a phantom skill. The lousy umpiring today showed me to be wrong. Game after game I see umps fooled by where they see the glove end up, and not where the pitch actually landed.

Grandal contributed to the 2017 team and was missing in the playoffs where Barnes seemingly took over the job. Kemp came back in 2018 and was a huge reason the team got off to such a great start. He also hit their 1st HR in the series against the Sox. Along the way I have said goodbye to a lot of favorites, Duke Snider, Willie D. Piazza, Karros, but a player rarely stays with the same team his entire career anymore. I hope Kershaw is a life long Dodger. If he leaves as a free agent it will be easier to stomach than seeing him leave in a trade. Same thing with Seager. If he chooses to go, it is on him. You cannot lament a trade that is not made. I remember in the winter of 2019 when everyone thought that Joc had been traded to the Angels for what seemed like nothing. Most fans were pretty POed. Then the trade was nullified and it was much easier to see him go via free agency. So sit back and enjoy the ride, The angst is just starting.

As I finish writing this, the Padres strike first, getting 2B Adam Frazier from the Pirates for 3 minor leaguers and cash. Will Friedman make a counter move? Going to be a very interesting week. Another trade went down with Andrew Chafin going from the Cubs to the A’s for two minor leaguers. Also it is being reported that Max Scherzer is willing to waive his no trade clause. Reports have the Dodgers checking in on Max, and Berrios of the Twins. Competition for both is brisk.

Reggie Smith

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  1. toycannon23July 28, 2021

    Still see AF bring in Freese type come off bench play multiple positions

  2. sbuffaloJuly 28, 2021

    Crack? Seriously?

    I believe the Dodgers will re-sign Chris Taylor. They would be nuts not to do so. He is a starter and plays at a high level. Where would the Dodgers be without Taylor.? This isn’t a Kiki or Joc situation. If Seager leaves, he may be the shortstop next year. Less certain the Dodgers will sign Seager. They need his bat, but staying on the field is key. Getting hit on the hand is certainly a freak injury, but earlier injuries may give the Dodgers pause. Obviously will depend on dollars and years. But how many of these big deals are actually working out for teams? Are they getting value in terms of the cost?

    If Seager had produced a big year after earning MVP honors in the NL Championship and World Series, no doubt the Dodgers would sign him to a lengthy deal, but now, not so sure. Thinking his market value has dropped considerably. May depend on how he finishes the season.

    As to acquiring a hitter at the deadline. Where would he play? Not exactly like the trade deadline will offer a chance to pick up a big bat. No Manny available. But the Dodgers cannot afford to run out the AAA line-ups we’ve seen lately. If Friedman actually doesn’t think a hitter is needed, then he must believe that both Betts and Seager will return healthy in the near future.

  3. BadgerJuly 28, 2021

    “If Friedman actually doesn’t think a hitter is needed, then he must believe that both Betts and Seager will return healthy in the near future.”

    That’s how I see it. Hope he’s right.

  4. BlutoJuly 28, 2021

    Really good recent Kyle Glaser chat:

    Open on www.baseballamerica.comhttps://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/kyle-glaser-mlb-prospects-chat-72721/

    As you’d expect a ton of Dodger questions:

    Paul (CA):Is Eddys Leonard a potential top 30 Dodgers prospect?

    Kyle Glaser: Leonard is moving up. You can find out exactly where he is when the Dodgers Midseason 30 is released this week. He can really hit and the bat is real.

    Justin (Tucson, AZ): Are there any players that have earned a change to their scouting grades this first half? Michael Busch has never hit above .245 as a pro yet his hit tool is graded as a 60. Is this still accurate?

    Kyle Glaser: Funny you ask because I’ve been diving in on that. The plate discipline is elite, but yeah, hitting .245 in the minors does not equate to hitting .280 in the majors (the bar for a plus hitter). His grade is likely going to tick down a bit come Prospect Handbook time.

    Secoh (Ohio): Dodgers have been very careful with Bobby Miller’s workload – is that concern going forward, and is he more a bulk reliever profile? How has he looked?

    Kyle Glaser: The Dodgers have been careful of everyone’s workload throughout their entire organization. Miller was just one of many guys (really, all of their guys) who were capped at 4-5 innings per start early in the season. Obviously you need to see how he holds his stuff over longer outings before you truly know what you have, but right now it’s not a concern just because the Dodgers have done this with almost everyone. He’s looked nasty in those short outings for what it’s worth. He’ll be very high on the Dodgers midseason top 30 coming out this week.

    Secoh (Ohio): Dodger’s Alex De Jesus struggled in May/June, but in July has more BB than Ks (from 24/68 to 21/17). Has something clicked or just a hot streak? His July OPS (.989) is impressive considered he was hovering in low .700 prior.

    Kyle Glaser: De Jesus got into some really bad swing habits during the offseason and it has taken a few months to “unlearn” all the bad habits he picked up. He’s slowly but surely getting back to the hitter he was before.

    Ray (La Verne, CA): What would you do with the Dodgers “Problem” of having Will Smith, Keibert Ruiz, and even Diego Cartaya in the system? which would you trade? Keep?

    Kyle Glaser: Keep Smith, trade whichever of Ruiz or Cartaya gets you the best starting pitcher.

    Brett (Boston): What is going on with Kody Hoese? I know he was injured for a bit this year but his numbers are pretty alarming, no?

    Kyle Glaser: There was a lack of bat speed that was very concerning in opposing evaluators’ eyes, although the Dodgers say the intercostal strain was bothering him even before he went on the IL and that’s why the swing didn’t look great. I think we’ll get a better sense of who he really is once he comes back from this injury.

    Ethical question for Jeff D.:

    If you link to a site with a qualified paywall (i.e. 5 free articles, then $) is it OK to share content? I think yes, but I’m not convinced.

  5. Jeff DominiqueJuly 28, 2021

    Houston is building their bullpen again. Kendall Graveman and now Yimi Garcia.

  6. DodgerHorseJuly 28, 2021

    The problem with this team is that the AAAA players have not done the work on offense or defense, it is not the same to replace the injured with Kiké, Joc and Ríos (2020 version) than with the AAAA types, the Dodgers need to go for bench players.

    I agree most of the time in Badger’s opinions when it comes to evaluating a player and breaking down the situations of a ball game and he gives a lot of importance to the defense which I totally agree, he is cold to do it and not let the stress and frustration of a defeat make you give the wrong opinions.

  7. TherealtenJuly 28, 2021

    Without injured players getting healthy and producing we are in for a quick playoff exit. If we get healthy and produce we could win but our starting pitching might not measure up but could if all r on their game. Bauer and May could match anybody. Buehler, kershaw, and Urias mb.

    Our bench is weak but if Betts and Seager get in we will be stronger off the bench. I said if our starters produce as expected which includes bellinger.

    I don’t know how AF could do it but if the dodgers knew that Bauer’s salary would be abbreviated then scherzer would b the play. I don’t think anyone else added will b any better than what we have. Otherwise I would keep the farm in tact.

    I think the Dodgers have time to win the division but I think it is unlikely. Somehow they need to start seeing themselves as underdogs. Take the pressure off of being the favorite and just fight hard to get in. They are not good enough to be favored. The Giants are definitely better right now. I believe the Dodgers will play better as an underdog.

  8. Singing The BlueJuly 28, 2021

    I know most of us would like to wind up with Scherzer, Kimbrel and Trea Turner, but just talking around the edges, I’d love to see us get Daniel Hudson and Josh Harrison from the Nats.

    Shouldn’t be a huge cost (both are free agents) but both are having very nice years. Hudson gives us another good, experienced bullpen arm and Harrison can pretty much play anywhere on the diamond except maybe catcher. He’s certainly a vast improvement over what we’ve been getting from Raley, Reks, Neuse, etc.

  9. toycannon23July 28, 2021

    Nats vs Phils postponed – COVID outbreak. Hows that affect trade deadline ?

  10. BlutoJuly 28, 2021

    Passan says Graterol is potentially a piece the Dodgers will move elsewhere.

  11. Andrew Vincent ForteJuly 28, 2021

    Tonight’s lineup:

    SS Chris

    2B Max

    3B Justin

    C Will

    1B Cody

    CF AJ

    LF Matt

    RF Bill McKinney

    P Walker

  12. toycannon23July 28, 2021

    More McKinney,Cody,Beatty – OH JOY !!!

  13. peterjJuly 28, 2021

    Rock and Rollers lost a legend today!!! ZZ Top bassist and R&R H.O.F. inductee Dusty Hill dead at 72…

    They indoctrinated me into Southern Blues…

    Now if there’s a R&R heaven, let it be…

  14. dodgerrickJuly 28, 2021

    Per LA Times, the Dodgers “have committed 63 errors on the season, third-most in the league, have allowed a major league-high 57 unearned runs, are 13-18 in one-run games and 1-10 in extra innings.”

  15. BulldogsandPenguinsJuly 28, 2021

    Damn, less that 48 hours away and still no trade? Let’s get something done now and have them in the game tomorrow.

    Dodgers lack of urgency is giving me an ulcer. Andrew must have to wear extra large boxer briefs to accommodate those pterodactyl eggs!

    Maybe he’s a NASCAR fan. It feels like we’re drafting, saving gas, getting ready to punch it.

    Beaty in LF is always an adventure. But, for a guy that never played much outfield, I don’t see it as a big drop off from Recks and Raley.

    Why not put Albert in at 1B and tell Belli to play like Beaty in LF? It would still allow him to nurse that hammy.

    Giants and Dodgers in on Scherzer, Giants and Dodgers in on Berrios. It’s gonna be a dog fight!

    There’s still 1/3rd of the season left to go. Stop panicking.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we ended up with a front of the rotation piece and a guy like Whit Merrifield.

    Work your magic Andrew. I’m not pressuring you, but would like a status report every hour on the hour until your tasks are complete.

  16. Singing The BlueJuly 28, 2021

    “Maybe he’s a NASCAR fan. It feels like we’re drafting, saving gas, getting ready to punch it.”

    Good one! And pretty true of AF’s MO every year at this time.

  17. Singing The BlueJuly 28, 2021

    Blake Snell gave up 7 runs to the A’s tonight in 4 innings. He started the first by giving up 3 walks and a grand slam.

    For anyone who thought the Pads weren’t still in on Scherzer, you’d better re-think that. I think they may now be the favorites, unless they prefer Berrios.

    As we consider what AF, Farhan and Preller are willing to do in order to bring in reinforcements the next 48 hours, we need to remember that for every major piece they get, it also deprives the other two of getting that guy. Hence, a reason to overpay a little bit more.

  18. Daniel EstradaJuly 28, 2021

    Starlin Martes goes to atletics. I would have liked this player to Dodgers

  19. VengeurJuly 28, 2021

    All this trade deadline bolster the bullpen pick up a starter stuff caused me to have a horrible flashback to 2018 and a guy named Ryan Madson. But they did get him cheap.

  20. ZekeJuly 28, 2021

    Eduardo Escobar to Brewers, they are going to be a tough out in playoffs.

  21. BlutoJuly 28, 2021

    MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM theorized earlier today that the Nationals would ask for Will Smith (not Keibert Ruiz) in a Max Scherzer deal.

    What is the first reaction from the guys/girls on this board?

    For me:

    BWA HA HA HA HA HA

  22. VengeurJuly 28, 2021

    A lot of appropriately inappropriate invectives come to mind in response to that offer. No way trade Smitty!!!

  23. Jeff DominiqueJuly 29, 2021

    Joey Gallo to NYY.

  24. Jeff DominiqueJuly 29, 2021

    Brewers never seem to be in the discussions for the so-called elites, but somehow they find ball players. Escobar will help them this year. Their rotation and bullpen is outstanding. They pick up Willy Adames to stabilize SS and has provided a huge bat for the Brewers. The cost was two relievers that the Brewers were not going to miss. They signed Kolten Wong who is providing GG 2B with a big bat. They stiff Seattle in a trade for Omar Narvaez (All Star C) for a 22 year SP in low A (now 24 in High A), and a 2020 supplemental round pick.

    They have made mistakes like JBJ and Locain. They are a game and half behind LAD , and they have been without Christian Yelich basically for the full year. Even when he is in the lineup he is not playing well, even though it is better than Belli right now.

    Woodruff (126 IP), Burnes 102 IP), and Peralta (102 IP) – 3 SP with a sub 2.3 ERA and sub 0.910 WHIP. An outstanding bullpen that ends with Josh Hader.

    Most seem concerned about SF and SD and Milwaukee is very quietly putting together a championship contending team with a fantastic in-game manager in Craig Counsell.

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