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Julio Urias Changes Everything!

Just a couple of years ago at age 18, Julio Urias was the Dodgers Top Prospect. He was off-limits in any trade discussions. He was the heir apparent to Clayton Kershaw as the Dodgers Ace. As a rookie, he was much better than Clayton not even up for debate! The Dodgers handled him with kid gloves and then the unthinkable happened. He was injured and had anterior capsule surgery

By Mark Timmons3 min readJump to 66 comments

Just a couple of years ago at age 18, Julio Urias was the Dodgers Top Prospect. He was off-limits in any trade discussions.  He was the heir apparent to Clayton Kershaw as the Dodgers Ace.  As a rookie, he was much better than Clayton – not even up for debate!  The Dodgers handled him with kid gloves… and then the unthinkable happened.

He was injured and had anterior capsule surgery on his left shoulder. Tests showed no structural damage in Urias’ shoulder. But, Andrew Friedman said Urias had an “acute injury. It happened on a pitch. The fact that it’s not wear and tear over the years makes the prognosis better.” This in unlike the surgery Hyun-Jin Ryu had on his shoulder.  He had a torn labrum.  Urias’ injury was nor as severe.  It was just the anterior capsule, but there was no other damage like “wear and tear.”

I am not going to pretend to be a doctor, nor am I going to boar you to tears with medical jargon.  If you want to read more about the anterior capsule, specifically Johan Santana’s surgery and a great description of what is involved, read Science of Baseball: Johan Santana and Anterior Capsule Surgery by Stuart Wallace.

Long story short: Julio Urias has a very good chance of returning 100% and that is only reinforced by the fact that he is throwing 91-92 MPH already WITHOUT PAIN! He is going to start a rehab assignment this week and will likely be working out of the pen, giving Dave Roberts another lefty who can pitch multiple innings.  Getting a healthy Julio Urias back mid-August is like making a deadline deal without giving up a player.  I would expect that by the time he comes back, he will find an extra 2 MPH on that fastball.  Like Ferguson, they will not pitch him on back-to-back days.  They may want 2 or 3 days rest between appearances.

Hyun-Jin Ryu is also starting a rehab assignment and will likely be back at some point.  His arm is sound – that is not why he was out. He was the Dodgers best pitcher at the start of the season and his arm (labrum) surgery was three years ago.  Last year, after he missed almost all of 2015 and 2o16, Ryu pitched 126 innings – his arm should be OK and he should be fresh as he only has logged less than 30 innings this year.

Of course, you can say he is oft-injured, but this left groin tear is not arm related.  I have confidence in his arm and I think he will be a factor down the stretch and in the playoffs.  After all, he is pitching for a new contract (not with the Dodgers).

Ross Stripling is experiencing some fatigue, I believe.  Maybe a trip to the DL would be better than moving him to the pen – he really doesn’t want to go there.

Once Ryu gets healthy, the starters would likely be:

  1. Kershaw
  2. Buehler (give him time to get it back – it might take a couple of more starts)
  3. Hill
  4. Meada
  5. Ryu

That moves Wood, Stripling and Urias to the bullpen, leaving only 2 other roster spots for the bullpen (Jansen has the closer role and Ferguson is a solid piece too.).  The Dodgers will play the hot hand among the relievers, be it Alexander, Chargois, Hudson, Baez, Fields, Cingrani, Liberatore, Floro, Garcia. Goeddel and Rosscup.

The Dodgers gave up a lot when they traded for Manny Machado – I do not see them giving up more.  All indications are that Ryu and Urias are healthy and I believe they will offer more than any deadline deal the Dodgers could make.  There will be no trade for deGrom.  Clayton is the Dodgers Ace – the team was built that way and they will rise or fall with it.  In the playoffs, Maeda will likely pitch out of the pen as well.  By playoff time, the Dodgers much maligned bullpen, just might be their strength.

That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it!

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  1. BumsrapJuly 31, 2018

    Disregarding this abuse case or any specific case, I generally want to allow a person that is allowed to not be in prison to be able to work and make a living and find the job that they are best at. If fans and teammates create an intolerable situation for that player, then the best job for that player is out of the limelight and not in a place where a small group of people spend so much time together. An interstate truck driver is an isolated job for instance.

  2. Dodger ChatterJuly 31, 2018

    I am wondering why he will be allowed in the US. Perhaps if he is convicted and then owns a criminal record he will no longer be able to return to the US.

  3. AlwaysCompeteJuly 31, 2018

    The fallout from the Osuna trade is already starting. I do not know how many of you have seen the video surveillance of the attack, but why Osuna is not in jail rather than being allowed to pitch for the WS Champs is beyond me. I will not post it, because it is rather violent. After the video became available Justin Verlander said this about Osuna…”you man. I hope the rest of your life without baseball is horrible. You deserve all that is coming your way!” McCullers also had some rather unkind things to say. “The issue here is no one cared as much until a video was leaked & now everyone is outraged!? This is the reality of domestic violence. It’s always brutal, always sickening. We must fight for the victims, video or not. He should be in jail. If you need help, find it. People care.”

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    After the trade, Verlander was approached again, and this time he was couching his comments a bit but his feelings have not changed. Per JV…”It’s a tough situation, I think the thing for us to remember here is that the details have not come to light. We don’t know the whole story. Obviously, I’ve said some pretty inflammatory things about stuff like this in the past. I stand by those words.”

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    For me, I beleive the tough situation is him trying to keep his mouth shut because Jeff Luhnow just went out and traded for the . Verlander did say that Luhnow did not talk to him before making decision. He did leave it open that Luhnow did speak with others on the team.JV is known to be involved in the domestic abuse cause, so this is going to be a very uncomfortable clubhouse.

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    Some things are just much more important than winning a baseball game. I have a lot less respect for Jeff Luhnow now than before yesterday. FAZ detractors can criticize them all they want, but they were never rumored to be in on this sub-human.

  4. Rudy ByrdJuly 31, 2018

    So…anybody have any plans today?

  5. Watford DodgerJuly 31, 2018

    Had plenty of chances, but couldn’t get the job done.

    Can’t put my finger on it, but I’m just not feeling it this year.

  6. dodgerrickJuly 31, 2018

    Why are hits better than walks? From Dodgers’ Digest;

    “All said and done, they stranded 11 on the night and went 0-for-5 with RISP, getting seven walks but just five hits.”

    Can’t score runs that way.

  7. Brooklyn DodgerJuly 31, 2018

    I haven’t seen enough of Archer to be convinced that he would be an asset to the Dodgers. But based on what I do know,it seems to me that he may be better than his most recent ERA’s. From what I’ve read, his FIP has been consistently in the mid-3’s. Also consider that he pitches in the AL East, home of numerous HR friendly ballparks, and unlike in the NL, he’s had to face DH’s. In that respect, his numbers compare favorably up against the Dodger starters who have spent their time in the pitcher friendly NL West sans the DH.

    And based on his stats, it appears that Sean Doolittle should be someone the Dodgers are targeting.

  8. DanielJuly 31, 2018

    Puig looks like he is out of DODGERS

  9. HawkeyeDodgerJuly 31, 2018

    Kela to the Pirates.

  10. HawkeyeDodgerJuly 31, 2018

    Urias hit 94 mph tonight in AZ.

  11. BobbyJuly 31, 2018

    I see Manny’s been learning from Chris Taylor on how take a called 3rd strike

  12. norcaldodgerfanJuly 31, 2018

    So will we be surprised in the next 20 hours about a trade deadline acquisition? Is Joc, Puig, Barnes, Toles a Dodger by tomorrow night?

  13. TYLERDURDEN31July 31, 2018

    Shin-soo choo just put a beautiful swing on a robbie ray fastball. 3 run oppo hr now 3-1 Texas over arizona.

  14. AlwaysCompeteJuly 31, 2018

    The Nationals have switched course, and have now said that Harper is available. I am not in the Harper bandwagon, but maybe FAZ is. If Harper is available, might not Doolittle be? He, I would be very interested in.

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    In the never ending saga known as Chris Archer trade rumors, one continuing comment I cannot get used to…”Archer hasn’t had an ERA below 4.00 since 2015, but he’s under control through 2021 at a reasonable average annual salary of $9.2 million.” Since when is mediocrity worth $9M+, when you can get better than mediocrity for much less:

    Not one Dodger starter (all 7) have an ERA north of 4.00. So who would Archer replace?

    The Dodgers can probably find multiple starters for a lot less than $9M with less than 4.00 ERA. He is not the strikeout and 200+ inning he used to be. Stay with what they need…8th inning lockdown reliever – bridge to Jansen.

  15. Mark TimmonsJuly 31, 2018

    The Nats just made it known that Bryce Harper is available….

    Yawn…

  16. DionysisJuly 31, 2018

    I didnt watch the allstar game. Our manager didnt do something stupid like have him pitch two innings did he?

  17. TherealtenJuly 31, 2018

    I think Stripling needed a break to reenergize. That is what I dislike about the all star game. I think that is a time where guys get a chance to restart. However, going to the all star game stresses a weary guy even more. I don’t think the homerun derby helped Muncy. I am in favor of the all star game for the league exposure. I just personally don’t like the all star stuff but it’s great for those that do. I poster earlier that stripling was pitching worse than anybody except Buehler. Let me clarify that I am very confident that Buehler will do well in the rotation. I just meant since the dL trip he is not back to where he was and he is not an option for the bpen so strip would be the most likely bpen option. Strip going to dL for a minor injury is even better.

  18. BumsrapJuly 31, 2018

    Kasten already had one of his teams win 14 consecutive Division championships. San Diego will just have to accept a Wild Card invite into the playoffs. I base that on nothing.

  19. Mark TimmonsJuly 31, 2018

    Urias is starting an assignment in the Arizona Rookie League.

  20. DanielJuly 31, 2018

    Astros have a very solid GM. nobody knows if the changes are going to work or not but they are doing the right moves Velander prince and now Osuna but a very solid cacher

  21. TYLERDURDEN31July 30, 2018

    What if the yankees got madbum?

  22. HawkeyeDodgerJuly 30, 2018

    Stripling to DL with a toe injury. Floro is back.

  23. Brooklyn DodgerJuly 30, 2018

    Roberto Osuna reportedly traded to Jays for Ken Giles. And I’m certain that Osuna was never considered by the Dodgers, and justifiably so.

  24. Brooklyn DodgerJuly 30, 2018

    i.e. , 2nd sentence of the 2nd paragraph. :). 🙂

  25. Brooklyn DodgerJuly 30, 2018

    Mark, feel free to jump all over me for the word I left out of my second sentence in the previous post. 🙂

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