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It s All About Chemistry!

I keep reading that the Dodgers are in the hunt for a starting pitcher and frankly, I do not believe it. What I mean by that is I do not think they are hell-bent-for-leather to get another starter. That s not saying that they won t do it if the right situation presents itself, but they are simply not going to overpay to get another starter. I think AC said the same

By Mark Timmons5 min readJump to 76 comments

I keep reading that the Dodgers are in the hunt for a starting pitcher and frankly, I do not believe it.  What I mean by that is I do not think they are “hell-bent-for-leather” to get another starter.  That’s not saying that they won’t do it if the right situation presents itself, but they are simply not going to overpay to get another starter.  I think AC said the same thing yesterday.

If it ever made sense to make a blockbuster deal at the trade deadline, this is the year, because the Dodgers are clearly one of the best teams in baseball.  However, it’s quite possible that they could win the World Series and not make a single move. They are THAT deep. Other than Yasiel Puig, whom his teammates “tolerate” because he has “toned down” his act, the clubhouse is very tight.  There is a lot of good chemistry on this club, so you have to be careful with any move that is made, because it could potentially affect the chemistry.

You make deals, not when you have to, but rather, when you want to… on your terms. Starting pitching is very important and the Dodgers have a horse in Clayton Kershaw, but beyond that there are injury questions.  Even Ray Charles can see that.  As good as Alex Wood has been, you have to wonder if he can stay healthy.  The same is true with Hyun-Jin Ryu, Kenta Maeda and Brandon McCarthy.  Then there is Scott Kazmir who allegedly is coming back in a week or three after being on the shelf all season.  I have the most confidence in Rich Hill, who appears to have his blister problems solved and is back in tune.  I think he will be a 6 or 7 inning pitcher the rest of the season. However, he also has an injury history.

Then there is also Brock Stewart, Ross Stripling (whom I have heard really sees himself as a starter, so much so that it might be messing with his head), Trevor Oaks and Scott Barlow.  Count ’em:

  1. Kershaw
  2. Hill
  3. Wood
  4. Maeda
  5. McCarthy
  6. Ryu
  7. Kazmir
  8. Stewart
  9. Oaks
  10. Barlow
  11. Stripling

That’s a plethora of starters any way you want to slice it.  I don’t care if they have a history of injuries.   I would make book that at least 6 of those pitchers will be healthy at any given moment, but you can’t help but wonder what would happen IF you had another “HORSE” to go with Clayton.  It was absolutely the right move to let Greinke walk – he used to be a horse, but now he’s just a pony.

The names we keep hearing are Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole and Jose Quintana, but I don’t think the Dodgers would pull the string on another lefty, so I leave Quintana out of the discussion.  I don’t think FAZ wants to be that heavy on LH starters.  Justin Verlander is owed $56 million over the next two seasons and is clearly not the pitcher he once was, but maybe could be re-energized by changing leagues and playing for a contender. However, he is averaging 5.8 innings a start – I’m not sure that is an improvement.  I would not try that unless the cost was low and the Tigers paid half his salary.

Gerrit Cole is not having a great season, but is a RH pitcher who is 26 years old and would likely do well in LA, as he is from Newport Beach.  He is under team control until 2020.  He averages 6 innings a start and would slot well behind Clayton… but he would be expensive. Another guy I like is Lance Lynn (he’s from Indianapolis), but he is fresh off TJ Surgery and likely will need to keep his workload under 200 IP, so I would not think he is a possibility.  He will be a Free Agent next year and is 28 years old.

If the Dodgers were to trade for a Gerrit Cole, they could certainly afford to trade another starter or two or three.  Maeda, Ryu and Stripling could go to other teams for other assets.

WHAT IF:  The Dodgers were to trade Yadier Alvarez, Ross Stripling and prospects they get for Ryu and Maeda (I would think they could get two TOP 10 prospects for Maeda and Ryu) to the Pirates for Gerrit Cole and Felipe Rivero (OK, I can dream, can’t I?). Maybe it would take another prospect or two… I don’t know.  Rivero is to die for…

Look at this:

Rotation:

  1. Kershaw
  2. Cole
  3. Hill
  4. Wood
  5. McCarthy
  6. Kazmir (Pen)
  7. Stewart (Pen)
  8. Oaks (AAA)
  9. Barlow (AAA)

Rivero would really help the best pen in baseball get even better and Stewart becomes the long guy as does Kaz!

Of course, our resident JD has been campaigning for JD Martinez, who would look good in LF with Chris Taylor at 2B.  By the way, he only likes Martinez because he has JD ahead of his name while he has JD “after” his name.  So, sue me.  😉

  1. Taylor  2B
  2. Seager  SS
  3. Turner  3B
  4. Bellinger  1B
  5. Martinez  LF
  6. Grandal  C
  7. Pederson  CF
  8. Puig  RF

That’s a better lineup.  FAZ has a lot to figure out.  Shoot, think about this.

  • Trade Forsythe for a LH reliever or prospect (The Red Sox and Yanks need a 3B);
  • Call up Kyle Farmer; and
  • Play Barnes at 2B.  I’m telling you – he is  very good 2B. Farmer can be the backup Catcher.
  • It was just a couple of days ago that I said I was not worried about Forsythe and Taylor and what happened?  Forsythe was 4-4 and Taylor got on base three times as the leadoff hitter.
  • A lineup with Grandal, Barnes and Taylor is pretty dang good.
  • If the Dodgers have any inclination to do that, Forsythe could be traded easily.
  • The thing is:  CHEMISTRY!

HERE ARE NUMBERFIRE’S PLAYOFF PROJECTIONS.

The Dodgers are Ranked #2 in Power Rankings in MLB and Numberfire gives them a 99.9% chance of making the playoffs.  The Giants are given a 0.0% chance!

Rants & Raves

  • I thought this team was going to be very good, but I did not realize they would be Super Good.  The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
  • Alex Wood should start the All-Star Game.
  • Sergio Romo is nearing the end of his rope. “No Mo Ro Mo” – Copyright DodgerRick
  • Grant Dayton is simply OK, but not the guy he was last year.
  • Trayce Thompson is a real CF when Joc is on the bench.  He doesn’t run – he glides!
  • Full Minor League Report
  • It was nice to see Doc go after Andy Green.  Roberts pointed to Green and said “You and me.”  Set the tone Dave!

Austin “Freaking” Barnes.  Dee who?

Discussion (76)

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  1. IdahoalJuly 2, 2017

    Twenty wins out of 23 games. Not bad. Win today and 2 of 3 from Arizona. Kike made a great catch last night. Night before it was Puig. I love to watch Thompson run. He really does not run, he glides. It truly is next man up. Forsythe and Barnes are hot right now. Bellinger is struggling a little right now, but he will figure it out. They are just fun to watch. Turner is playing well and we do not even mention him.

  2. BumsrapJuly 2, 2017

    Haven’t checked, but it seems like the Dodgers are doing much better against lefties this year.

  3. DINO CHAVEZJuly 2, 2017

    IM SORRY BLUTO, BUT MY LABTOP ONLY WORKS WITH CAPS IM SORRY IF IT OFFE NDS YOU. I AM A VETERAN ON A LIMITED BUDGET. I CANT AFFORD A NEW LAPTOP I.

  4. BlutoJuly 2, 2017

    Can someone teach Dino Chavez how to turn off CAPS lock?

    ~

    Please?

  5. Boxout7July 2, 2017

    Doesn’t look like we need to shop for a 2nd baseman. Also I would say we have found our #2, except we already have Kershaw and Wood, when Hill is on he is as good as anybody.

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    I know AC said it couldn’t be done, but let’s get Rivero from the Pirates and order World Series tickets.

  6. CampyJuly 2, 2017

    Looks like the chemistry set exploded tonight…………

  7. DINO CHAVEZJuly 2, 2017

    TAYLOR, GRAND SLAM!!!!! KEEP MESSING WITH OUR MANAGER. DODGERS 8-0

  8. DINO CHAVEZJuly 2, 2017

    FORSYTHE 4-4. WOW

  9. DINO CHAVEZJuly 2, 2017

    MARK, THE WAY HILL LOOKS TONITE I DONT THINK WE NEED A STARTER IMO. I CAN ALREADY HEAR THE FAZ BASHERS SAY ITS ONLY THE PADRES.

  10. DINO CHAVEZJuly 2, 2017

    YOU KNOW THINGS ARE GOING WELL FOR THE DODGERS WHEN RICH HILL HAS 2 HITS WITH AN RBI.

  11. CampyJuly 2, 2017

    Maybe I traded Forsythe too soon. Cody is in a slump, we will see if he makes a adjustment.

  12. DINO CHAVEZJuly 2, 2017

    DAVE ROBERTS SUSPENDED FOR TODAYS GAME, BUT OTHER THAN BARNES BLUNDER ON THE BASES DODGERS ARE LOOKING AWESOME STARTING WITH RICH HILL

  13. Vegas DodgerJuly 2, 2017

    Hill is pitching really well tonight, good command of his breaking ball. Kike makes a great catch in RF then Cory and JT hit back to back bombs. Forsythe’s 7th straight hit, a 2B to the gap chases Overton.

  14. DINO CHAVEZJuly 2, 2017

    SEAGER AND TURNER, BACK TO BACK HOMERS, DODGERS STARTING JULY LIKE THEY ENDED JUNE

  15. IdahoalJuly 2, 2017

    Mark, I did not see your post above on what you think of SD fans. I think you should apply for a position as Trump’s advisor for his tweets.

  16. Always CompeteJuly 1, 2017

    I just looked at the OKC lineup for tonight’s game, and Kyle Farmer will be the starting SS. That should be fun.

  17. IdahoalJuly 1, 2017

    I agree with you AC. We just need to sit tight at trading time. Unless something comes along that really makes sense. Winning the WS does not always go to the best team. The team streaking at the time usually wins it.

  18. Vegas DodgerJuly 1, 2017

    You are showing off your vocabulary Mark!

    Any predictions on the All Star team? JT, Seager and Bellinger are all worthy and have carried the team so far on offense. Kershaw, Wood and Jansen deserve it as well. That’s 6 players from one team but a case can be made for all of them. I have mixed feelings about Bellinger in the HR Derby but he has a natural uppercut swing and hopefully he would do well and not get homer happy afterwards. Stanton is back to defend his title and the fans also want to see Aaron Judge and Bellinger put on a show.

  19. Mark TimmonsJuly 1, 2017

    I do have this bad habit of going after a fly with a cannon.

    😉

  20. Always CompeteJuly 1, 2017

    I came across this lovely piece from a Padres Blog.

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    Open on www.gaslampball.comhttps://www.gaslampball.com/2017/6/30/15907526/dodgers-10-padres-4-alex-wood-is-a-crybaby-game-recap-get-over-yourself-dude

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    I guess if you have the third worst team in baseball, this is all you got. Maybe Clayton Richard and the rest of the Madres should get mad at the FO and insist on a team that does not have 3 Rule 5 Draft players on their 25 man. You should read the comments. The fans want to drill Turner, and then have one of their “trucks” take out Grandal at the plate. Just pure class.

  21. Vegas DodgerJuly 1, 2017

    It is becoming increasingly unlikely that the team makes a major deadline move. They are coming to a soft part of the schedule with lots of off days in July and the teams behind them are struggling. Barring a sweep to the Snakes (and they line up to face Kershaw and Wood) there is no need for disrupting the chemistry. Unless they can get a pitcher better than Hill or McCarthy as AC stated, a RH bat better than Thompson or a LHRP better than Dayton or Avilan they are pretty set as is. I guarantee they will make a small deal or 3 but probably nothing major unless it is just too good to pass up.

    Every starting pitcher Mark mentioned is under team control for next year and there is safety in numbers injury wise. Why mess with it? No need to rush the prospects or to make a dope fiend move. A playoff rotation of Kershaw, Wood, Hill and McCarthy looks pretty good and you could have Ryu and Maeda in the pen for long relief if anyone has a rough outing. They will be really strong next year as well if they do nothing. We don’t know what Ryu or Maeda or Kazmir will do if they don’t start so that could be the real reason someone is dealt.

    Forsythe has joined the party and Thompson has filled a role and along with the resurgence of Joc and the steady play of Puig and Barnes/Grandal this team is deep and dangerous beyond Seager, JT and Cody. Taylor and Kike give some flexibility and Utley and AGon the veteran leadership along with Kershaw. It would be nice to runaway with the division but sometimes it’s hard to turn it back on in the playoffs.

  22. DINO CHAVEZJuly 1, 2017

    LAST NITE IF YOU WATCHED THE SCUFFLE WITH ROBERTS, JUSTIN TURNER WAS RIGHT IN FRONT ALSO. I AM AN EX GANG MEMBER AND I WOULD NOT MESS WITH TURNER!

  23. Mark TimmonsJuly 1, 2017

    I have been verbally accosted many times in SF wearing Dodger Gear, but I have learned how to talk to them in a persuasive manner:

  24. Always CompeteJuly 1, 2017

    Before the 2016 season, Mark kept bringing up Austin Barnes this and Austin Barnes that. Now I liked Austin Barnes, but sometimes you just have to be disagreeable. I kept kidding Mark that no matter how much you talk about him, Austin Barnes is not the next Craig Biggio. Well I was right, Barnes will never be a HOF player like Biggio, but he is a lot better than many of us thought he would be, except maybe Mark. I am glad that FAZ did not trade him like I thought they should.

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    Forsythe is a logical trade potential, and certainly Boston and NYY are possibilities. Neither team is going to jump on a Forsythe trade as long as Eduardo Nunez and Mike Moustakas might be available.

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    I was having coffee with my Giants buddies this AM, wearing my Alex Wood jersey, and in comes a Giants Fan with his Orange & Black “DESTINY” T-Shirt telling me how arrogant and crazy I was wearing a Dodger jersey in this town (a Sacramento suburb). Never wanting to back down to obnoxious Giants fans, I laughed and asked him if DESTINY was last place for the Giants this year or for the next several. The fan got angry and my Giants buddies just laughed and told him, “Dude, if you can’t catch, don’t pitch”. It’s great being a Dodgers fan in this town (or any town)!

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