Is Thor Finished?
Today, on Dodgers.com, Juan Toribio has a great piece on Noah Syndergaard, who sounds like he has had a fork stuck in him. Andrew Friedman has made a number of excellent acquisitions, but this is not one and you can’t win them all.I think AF is about to end the charade. Toribio…

Today, on Dodgers.com, Juan Toribio has a great piece on Noah Syndergaard, who sounds like he has had a fork stuck in him. Andrew Friedman has made a number of excellent acquisitions, but this is not one and you can’t win them all.I think AF is about to end the charade. Toribio writes this:
Thor still struggling to regain his thunder
With diminished velo, Syndergaard has seen ERA soar to 6.27 in 1st season with Dodger
–Juan Toribio
“Over the past few seasons, the Dodgers have gone into free agency keeping their options open for finding upside on the market.
In 2022, that strategy worked to perfection. Tyler Anderson had a breakout season and turned it into a three-year deal with the Angels this offseason. Andrew Heaney also had solid outings when healthy, and he signed a two-year deal with the Rangers. For Heaney, Anderson and the Dodgers, the signings turned beneficial for both sides.
This year, Los Angeles tried the same approach with Noah Syndergaard, signing him to a one-year deal worth $13 million. Syndergaard had even more success than Heaney or Anderson before injuries derailed his career.
Through 11 starts, however, the signing hasn’t produced good results. Syndergaard struggled once again in the Dodgers’ 9-3 loss to the Rays on Friday night at Tropicana Field, allowing six runs over six innings of work.
“Just not a lot of positive emotion right now when I think about pitching, in particular,” Syndergaard said. “It’s just hard going out there with the weapons you used to have kind of being taken away from you, and throwing what I’m possessing right now is not enough to successfully battle a team like that. But [I’ll] just continue to work my butt off in between starts to snap out of this.”
Syndergaard, of course, is talking about the 100 mph four-seam fastball he used to throw during his first five seasons with the Mets, a time that saw him become one of the most dominant young pitchers in the game. But as injuries piled up, Syndergaard lost the ability to throw hard; he’s now averaging about 92.4 mph. And the right-hander continues to chase his old velocity, which perhaps has been detrimental to his overall performance.
Syndergaard has tried different methods, including hypnosis, to try to get back to the pitcher he once was. Instead, Syndergaard’s 6.27 ERA is the third worst in the Majors among pitchers with at least 11 starts.
“I think everyone around here knows I’m the most determined person to get back to where I used to be,” Syndergaard said. “I just haven’t been the same since I had my setback when I was coming back from Tommy John [in March 2020]. Still working through that and just maintain positivity and come in ready to work.”
While Syndergaard “knows for a fact there’s still more in there,” the Dodgers will have to start balancing allowing him to figure things out on the fly while weighing the overall production, which has been poor so far.
At this moment, the Dodgers can’t afford to remove Syndergaard from the starting rotation because of their mounting injuries. Julio Urías (left hamstring strain) will be out for at least one more week, and Dustin May (right forearm strain) is out until after the All-Star break. Ryan Pepiot (left oblique strain) is still not throwing off a mound, ruling him out for at least two more months. Michael Grove (right groin strain) has started his rehab and is one more start away from being a potential option.
The development and production of young pitchers Bobby Miller and Gavin Stone will also determine just how long the Dodgers stick with Syndergaard in their rotation.
“I think right now where we’re at, I wouldn’t say that we have an internal option right now,” said Dodgers manager Dave Roberts. “As we kind of look out and we keep going, we have some other options down the road. But I think right now, we’ve got to continue to run him out there and expect better results.”
Those results weren’t good against the Rays, who own the best record in baseball at 38-15. Tampa Bay scored five runs through the first three innings off Syndergaard and just missed a few more homers. To Syndergaard’s credit, he did get through six innings, giving the Dodgers’ bullpen a boost for the next two games.
But at this point in the season, it might no longer be practical to continue to look for silver linings every time Syndergaard steps on the mound. Syndergaard needs to find results in order to stay in the rotation, and he knows it.
“I wouldn’t say confidence is lost long term. I think short term it is,” Syndergaard said. “But I think if I just focus on getting 1 percent better each time, I think soon we’ll be in pretty good shape.”
I think he is just praying! He has nothing left. He seldom hits 93 MPH. The Dodgers can’t continue down this path! Michael Grove is getting healthy, but I would call up Landon Knack. The Dodgers can use the roster space they get by releasing Thor. Yes, I am suggesting the Dodgers “Eat” the remainder of his contract. They obviously won’t…. at least not today, but they have a better internal option with Landon Knack, who can pitch at a much higher level. He just needs a chance.
I am also hoping that James Outman can turn it around. In the past 15 games, he is hitting.156 and he now has 65 strikeouts in 166 ABs. His leash is getting short, and unless he can turn it around, they may send him back to OKC to see if they can fix it there. He’s not reached that point… yet, but change needs to occur…
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From The Athletic:
* Watching games when Syndergaard pitches is like putting bamboo splinters under my fingernails. He is horseshit. He has no movement at all, on his pitches. The sinker doesn’t sink. the curve doesn’t curve and the cutter doesn’t cut. He’s just meat.
* I get pissed when Noah doesn’t allow his team to be competitive defensively. His inability to hold runners just buries Smith.
In the 3rd, Walls hits a harmless single. Three pitches later he’s standing on 3rd with Noah being 1.45 and 1.6 to home. Will made 2 great throws but he has no chance. Walls scored on another single for practically a free run. Every hit or walk is a double or triple.
I know we have guys like Urias and Grove on the shelf short term, but I’d bring up Knack. Syndergaard is a dead man walking. I’ll chip in for his ticket out of town and save the automatic loss ever 5th day.
* Orel said the catchers down on one knee, trying to catch a wide breaking ball with runners on, “drives old school guys crazy”. Count me in. I will never get it. He said it promotes a better, lower target and framing. Bullshit. Just move the glove lower.
* Muncy is killing us in the middle of the order right now. He has zero interest in situational hitting. He’s just up there wailing. Last night he was 0 for 5 and was retired with 7 guys on base, out of the Dodgers 11 for the game.
In the last 2 games, Max is 0 for 10, make unproductive outs with 13 ducks on the pond.
But today is another opportunity to play better.
Friday scores
Oklahoma City 5, Sacramento 4
Tulsa 4, Northwest Arkansas 3
Great Lakes 11, Peoria 9
Rancho Cucamonga 10, Lake Elsinore 9 (10 innings)
Saturday schedule
4:35 p.m. PT: Great Lakes (Justin Wrobleski) at Peoria (Ian Bedell)
5:05 p.m.: Tulsa (River Ryan) vs. NW Arkansas (Alec Marsh)
6:30 p.m.: Rancho Cucamonga (Luis Valdez) vs. Lake Elsinore (Henry Williams)
6:37 p.m.: Oklahoma City (TBD) at Sacramento (TBD)
All 4 Dodger Minor League teams are in sole sole possession of first place in their respective divisions
4:10 PM ET
Dodgers (31-21) 1st place NL West
Rays (38-15) 1st place AL East
SP Clayton Kershaw L
6-4 2.98 ERA 57.1IP 69K
SP Tyler Glasnow R
0-0 .00 ERA
Confirmed Lineup
RF Mookie Betts R
1B F. Freeman L
C Will Smith R
DH J. Martinez R
3B Max Muncy L
CF J. Heyward L
2B M. Vargas R
LF D. Peralta L
SS Miguel Rojas R
In Domed Stadium
Bauer’s travails: Welcome to the Minors.
The Rays announced this morning that they’ve activated right-hander Tyler Glasnow from the injured list. In a corresponding move, right-hander Cooper Criswell was optioned to Triple-A. Glasnow will start this afternoon’s game against the Dodgers.
Yes, let’s see what Knack can do.
Thor’s struggles increase the chances that AF & Associates will see SP talent at the trade deadline. I have high hopes for Miller and Stone, but I also expect that injuries will be a struggle all season. Getting a proven veteran SP to shore up the rotation is a possibility. It would be fun to see Lance Lynn –or Rich Hill!–but a guy like Giolito could mean more long-term. (I’m just trying to think of guys who might be on the market.
Outman’s slump is so bad that we overlook Muncy’s struggles. Over the last 30 days, both have an OPS near .580, as does slugging Miguel Rojas.
Max and Outman pretty much carried the offense during the first month, but now stars like Freddie, Will, JDM and Mookie have really stepped up. Here’s their recent 30-day OPS state: Freddie 1.065, Mookie .965, JDM .964, Will .941. In a platoon role, Heyward has been up there too–.946–and Vargas has been solid at .805. Then there’s a pretty big drop to Peralta and Taylor, both at .692.
Remarkably, Will Smith’s OPS for the season is even higher at .978. When he’s been healthy, he’s been simply great. Now he was 23 walks against 12 Ks. Does anyone in the majors have a better ratio?
Smith’s plate discipline has always been good, but this seems unreal. The next-best run for him was in covid-shortened 2020 season, in which he had 20 walks against 22 Ks.
When the Dodgers get whupped like this, I try to note the positive. So kudos to Chris Taylor for stellar OF defense and also to Mookie for another gold-glove caliber OF assist. Did the guy look safe on the replay? Well, let’s just say it wasn’t clear enough to overturn the call on the field.
Approaching belly-itcher status.
Jonny DeLuca went 4-5 last night with 2 HR and a double, Watch him!
The Dodgers have a lot of better options if they choose to DFA Thor. Right now , even with two strikes he can’t put away batters. He hasn’t unfortunately regained velocity after his surgery .He’s probably a nice guy, hard worker with poor results. It’s time to move on.
I think the experiment has gone on long enough. They are in a pennant race. 1.5 games in front of the D-Backs and all of a sudden, SD and the Giants are playing better. Put your foot on the gas peddle Andrew, lets go.