Has Dave Roberts's “Shelf Live” Expired?
In the NBA, they change coaches more than some of you change your underwear. The other day, someone asked me, “ Do you wear boxers or briefs? ” I said, “ Depends …” It also might depend on when you ask about Dave Roberts’s shelf life. This is Doc’s 8th year as the Dodger…

In the NBA, they change coaches more than some of you change your underwear. The other day, someone asked me, “Do you wear boxers or briefs?” I said, “Depends…” It also might depend on when you ask about Dave Roberts’s shelf life. This is Doc’s 8th year as the Dodger Manager, with 661 wins and 388 losses. That’s a .630 winning percentage. Among any manager in baseball history with at least 1,000 games, Dave Roberts is #1 in winning percentage.
In those eight years he finished first in seven of those years, and in the year he did not finish first, he led the team to 106 wins. He has also won two World Series Championships, but the Houston Astros effectively stole one. Would you feel differently about Dave Roberts if the Astros had not cheated?
Riddle me this… would the Dodgers be a better team without Dave Roberts. Yes or no? … and tell me why! Yesterday, a commenter wrote this:
“We need a change of manager for things to change in the clubhouse and dugout. We all know Roberts is not a real manager. And don’t give me that “But our record under him is awesome” crap. The great teams he has had won despite his meddling. Anyone could have managed these Dodgers teams to the same records and a real manager would have won more games.”
–anonymous
The comment is practically dripping with hatred. Is this warranted? Could it be that Dave Roberts is part of the problem… or maybe he is the problem. Has his “shelf life” expired? Would the Dodgers be better with a new manager… and who would you suggest?
Oh, let me also add that Dave Roberts has managed 81 playoff games where he has a .556 winning percentage. Now, before you say anything, understand that Walter Alston managed 44 playoff games and had a .523 winning percentage, while Tommy Lasorda managed 81 playoff games with a .508 winning percentage. The only difference is that Tommy and Walter managed those games in their 20+ years of managing because only two teams went to the playoffs then (the World Series). Dave Roberts has to win several series in the playoffs to get to the World Series, and don’t tell me that isn’t harder – It’s much, much harder, because the odds are against you.
Just for a little perspective, the 2021 Atlanta Braves were 7-9 on April 18th, 2021. On June 30, 2021, they were 38-41 and then went on to win the World Series. I am just putting it out there because it is not how you start – It’s how you finish!
My final question is, “How do you fire the manager with the best winning percentage of all time, and are you prepared for him to manage the Padres?”
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Discussion (182)
Disagree, not disagreeable
I just looked at the box score as the game ended and noted the following:
5 – 192
6 – 186
7 – 171
8 – 125
9 – 045
While I agree with Mark the sample size is still small this far into the season but WTF, while I am not necessarily a Dave Robert’s fan as a manager – who in hell can expect to usually win with those types of numbers.
I am hoping if nothing changes in another 10 or so games that they start giving the players in the minors a chance as they cannot do any worse!
Outside of the 6 hitter everyone is on the back side of their career.
Hopefully the season doesn’t look so already lost as some seemed to express above before tonight’s game. Dodgers will get hot before the weather does.
When the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of change… you change!
The clock is ticking, Eric.
Luke I am not your Father.
Luke, May the Force be with you!
Well Eric, I don’t think Roberts finds you very sweet! And I’m pretty sure Mark has all of our emails.
Mark
My email ericsweetness@gmail.com talk to me. I’m opening myself up to email attacks but I can just delete them. I’m not a guy that takes punches and just stands there and I’m not a guy that takes punches and stands there and rides off into the sunset never to be seen again.
Growing a red beard would help! Too early for no hitter talk?
Things are suddenly a bit intriguing with Mookie’s daddy break and Taylor’s apparently minor injury.
When the Dodgers first picked up Luke Williams last season, I joked that the “Luke Williams Era” had begun, because there was little reason to think the new UT option would make a big impact.
Then again, Williams sort of fit the profile of the marginal big leaguer in their 20s that Justin Turner, Chris Taylor and Muncy all had been before they got into the Dodgers brought them in and helped them morph i nto stars.
Could Williams raise his game? So far, he’s been a beast at OKC, mostly playing SS. Rojas is starting today, but I hope Williams gets a chance to show what he can do before he’s shipped back to OKC. The roster needs another quality UT instead of an OF surplus. (Williams can play OF too.)
This early part of the season should be a talent assessment. The rookies are doing well, and the vets are mostly performing as expected, which includes Rojas’s weak offense. Within a few days, Mookie, Taylor and Smith should all be back.
Roberts should make sure that Williams gets to show his abilities. Both Rojas and Taylor are struggling. What if Williams turns out to be the better option?
I’m curious why Dave Roberts leaves pitchers in for a prolonged drubbing like 9 runs or 4 HR’s. It seems counterproductive. Also, why set Thompson up for failure by platooning him and having him hit lefties when he has reverse splits ?
I thought this team would have a team BA almost as good as last year and could be competitive even with a lower BA because there would not be the dead zone at the bottom of the order. So far it is not working out that way and there is a bigger dead zone.
As for Roberts this year he puts a horrible lineup out there because his roster is not performing. His bench is worse so there is no good move coming out of that dugout or bullpen. I expected 95 wins but maybe that’s too high. Hopefully, the players start to perform. If not let’s see what some of the prospects can do. I’d rather see them than retreads. Then there is always the trade deadline.
According to MLB.com, Mookie might play some at shortstop upon his return. If he’s as adept as he is as second base, it could be worth considering. According to the article, he’d rather play there than right field.
Questioning the manager? Lasorda would have told us all where to go in a 15 minute f laced tirade! Like he did to poor Doug Rau!
I figured once the season actually started people would have something to comment on other than whether the Dodgers would’ve won as many games with Roberts as the manager.
I think every angle of this has been discussed ad nauseam (emphasis on the nauseam part) for literally years now. The site blew up. People were banned. People left in a huff, never to return. … and we’re at it again? What more needs to be said?
– Roberts is not the best in-game tactician. (check)
– Roberts is probably pretty good at managing an organization, including both players and interacting with the front office and stats division (check)
– The Dodgers have had a historic run with him at the helm (check)
– There is absolutely no possible way to determine whether another warm body in the manager’s position would have done better or worse. That is an impossible question to answer. (check)
The only way to know if Sparky Anderson would have done better than Roberts is to take out the custom DeLorean and go back to 1975, kidnap Sparky Anderson, transplant 1975 Sparky into the managerial position at Dodgers Stadium in 2015 and see what happens from then until now.
Good grief! Don’t you people get tired of arguing the same stuff over and over again?
Dave Roberts said very early in spring training Heyward would be on the roster. I doubt Outman would have made it if not for the Lux injury.
Today, several people basically said, “what kind of idiot hits Chris Taylor 4th?”
Here’s the kind of idiot who does that:
Open on www.espn.comhttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/10965635/tampa-bay-rays-manager-joe-maddon-reworks-struggling-lineupJoe Maddon did it and lots of people thought he was one of the best managers in baseball.
Some of you do not speak English. I’m not sure what language it is, but it sounds like Bullshit!
Dodgers Press Release
DODGERS SELECT LUKE WILLIAMS
LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles Dodgers selected the contract of infielder Luke Williams and placed Mookie Betts on the paternity list. In order to make room for Williams on the 40-man roster, the Dodgers placed right-handed pitcher Daniel Hudson on the 60-day injured list.
Williams, 26, appeared in 14 games for Triple-A Oklahoma City, batting .375 (21-for-56) with eight doubles, two homers and 13 RBI. In 500 career minor league games, he has amassed 26 homers and 187 RBI while hitting .245. He made his Major League debut in 2021 with the Philadelphia Phillies and has appeared in 137 games between Philadelphia (2021), San Francisco (2022) and Miami (2022), hitting .240 (54-for-225) with two homers and 12 RBI. He signed with the Dodgers on February 3, 2023.
Betts, 30, has appeared in all 17 games for the Dodgers this season, hitting .266 (17-for-64) with two homers and six RBI. He is in his fourth season with the Dodgers and he has slashed .271/.356/.518 with 76 homers and 185 RBI in 336 games with the Boys in Blue. He is in his 10th Major League season, and he has amassed 215 homers and 655 RBI while hitting .292 (1323-for-4524) in 1,130 games. The 2018 American League MVP was originally drafted by the Boston Red Sox in the fourth round of the 2011 Draft out of Overton High School (Nashville, TN).
Dodgers News: Mookie Betts Placed on Paternity Leave, Luke Williams Added to Active Roster
The Dodgers made a roster move on Tuesday and it wasn’t the move we expected after Chris Taylor suffered an injury last night. Instead, Mookie Betts is heading out on paternity leave as he and his wife Brianna welcome their second child. Taking Mookie’s spot on the active roster is infielder Luke Williams, who spent time with the club during spring training.
The Dodgers haven’t announced a corresponding roster move to get Williams on the 40-man.
Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic was the first to report the news.
Tuesday schedule
11 a.m. PT: Rancho Cucamonga (Payton Martin) vs. Fresno [Rockies] (Caleb Franzen)
3:05 p.m.: Great Lakes (TBD) vs. South Bend [Cubs] (TBD)
4:05 p.m.: Tulsa (Nick Frasso) vs. Wichita [Twins] (Blayne Enlow)
5:35 p.m.: Oklahoma City (Matt Andriese) at Albuquerque [Rockies] (Karl Kauffmann)
10:10 PM ET
Mets (11-6)
Dodgers (8-9)
SP Tylor Megill R
3-0 2.25 ERA16K 13K
SP Clayton Kershaw L
2-1 3.50 ERA 18IP 17K
Confirmed Lineup
CF James Outman L
1B F. Freeman L
DH J. Martinez R
3B Max Muncy L
RF J. Heyward L
2B M. Vargas R
LF D. Peralta L
SS Miguel Rojas R
C A. Barnes R
Partly-cloudy-day
1% Precipitation
61° Wind 9 mph Out
Clayton goes for his 200th win tonight
Dodgers catcher Will Smith won’t play during the three-game series against the Mets at Dodger Stadium, but the team is eying Thursday’s series opener at Wrigley Field in Chicago for Smith’s return, the earliest day he’s eligible to be activated off the seven-day concussion injured list.
“The hope is to activate him [Thursday], but it’s all contingent on how he’s feeling,” manager Dave Roberts said.
I have a question for all of you. Every time I try to visit the Dodgers Digest website it gets blocked. I get a statement saying it is a Phishing website. Is there a problem with the site, or is my computer wacky?
Juan Toribio wrote this as to why Hunter Feduccia was not called uP:
“The Dodgers could’ve also opted to go with Hunter Feduccia, who is off to a strong start in Triple-A, but adding him to the 40-man roster could’ve been risky once the Dodgers start to get healthier on the pitching side and need to clear spots.”
Anyone else concerned that we will get swept this series?
Megill has been great and Mad Max will definitely want to show us what we are missing. I’m definitely closing my eyes these next two games. I hate to be so negative but I just don’t think our team is THAT good any longer.
Losing Buehler, Gonsolin, Bauer, Tre, and Lux is a lot to lose, especially seeing we haven’t replaced them with anywhere near their talent level. I know some would say Cody too, but I’m optimistic Eric’s guy- Outman-can adequately replace him.
Andy Pages, Ben Casparius, Kyle Nevin win minor league player of the week honors
dodgerrick & Jayne Cobb;
AMEN
It’s that time of the year again, apparently. Dodgers have a bad couple weeks (doesn’t matter if it’s the beginning of the season or middle) and fans come out of the woodwork to dust off the guillotine and demand we all storm the Bastille.
This is silliness. I’m not a huge fan of Roberts. Never have been. But I’d not know of anybody available who could do better.
Let’s fire the most successful manager of the last decade, whom the players love… that’s the ticket.
Send the clubhouse into turmoil, insert some rando into the manager jobs to learn everything about the players, understand how the organization works, grasp the philosophy and strategy that AF requires be implemented and do all that in a matter of days.
That’s the ticket. Dodgers have a chest cold. So let’s kick them in the nuts and smash em over the head with a frying pan. That will fix everything.
That’s all I have to say about that.