For MiLB Players The Organization Matters
In the 2024 MLB draft, James Tibbs III was taken 13 th overall by San Francisco. He is now a top prospect at AAA for LAD. CWS RF Braden Montgomery made his MLB debut on my birthday (June 9), in story-book fashion with a walk-off 2-run HR in the 10 th off Raisel Iglesias for the…
In the 2024 MLB draft, James Tibbs III was taken 13th overall by San Francisco. He is now a top prospect at AAA for LAD. CWS RF Braden Montgomery made his MLB debut on my birthday (June 9), in story-book fashion with a walk-off 2-run HR in the 10th off Raisel Iglesias for the win over the Braves. Braden was taken by the Red Sox, 1 pick before JTIII in 2024 draft. He was then traded to CWS in the Garrett Crochet trade. See below on more on that steal by the White Sox.
JTIII is 6 months older than Montgomery. Montgomery started the year in AA and then moved to AAA when AA was not much of a challenge. Montgomery’s AAA stats were good, but not better than JTIII. He just had a better opportunity with CWS. If JTIII was on the White Sox, would he be in MLB? He is blocked by the Dodgers duo of Teoscar Hernández and Kyle Tucker in the OF and Freddie Freeman at 1B.
Then there is CWS LF Sam Antonacci who is already in MLB. He is right between Montgomery and JTIII age wise. He was a 5th round pick by CWS in the same 2024 draft. I first learned of Antonacci when he played for Team Italy in the WBC. He wasn’t anything special in the WBC, except for that 2-run HR against Team USA and RHSP Nolan McLean. He would not be in MLB with LAD. Would he be in AAA? Even AA?
And yet another OF taken in the 3rd round of the 2024 draft is LAD OF prospect Mike Sirota. Sirota is crushing AA pitching. With his RBI single in the 1st inning on Wednesday, Sirota has now reached 1B safely in his 49th consecutive game (including all 19 AA games). In 19 games, Sirota is slashing .366/.494/.592/1.086, 7 doubles, 3 HR, 18 BB, 18 K. For comparison purposes, in 126 AA PA this year, Braden Montgomery slashed .313/.429/.606/1.035, 5 doubles, 3 triples, 6 HR, 21 BB and 32 K. Sirota is 2 months younger than Montgomery.
How many organizations would still have 21 year old Josue De Paula at AA. He is in the top 4 of almost every offensive stat in the Texas League, including #1 in doubles, #2 in hits, #2 XBH, #2 total bases…Does he really have anything still to prove at AA? I expect both Sirota and JDP in LA before the end of 2027. But then what about Zyhir Hope. He doesn’t have much to prove at AA either, but realistically he is not only blocked by the LAD OF but also the AAAA players in AAA as well as JDP and Sirota.
Montgomery is in MLB, and Sirota and JDP are in AA with no clear path to get to AAA. Possible, but not clear. The Dodgers appear to be comfortable with Ryan Fitzpatrick playing LF and Alek Thomas in CF in OKC. They also have Zach Ehrhard and Jack Suwinski as OF.
How different would the LAD record be if the Dodgers went with Ryan Ward instead of signing Kyle Tucker to a 4 year $240MM deal? Now, Tucker is going to be roaming RF for LAD for the next three years, and possibly block others in that time frame. Meanwhile Ward is showing that he belongs in MLB, and maybe AF/BG made a mistake on him??? Still to early to tell, but he is outproducing Tucker at this point. That is why I was supportive of a Ward/Call platoon in LF until one of the “kids” was ready to assume the role.
On December 11, 2024, CWS traded LHSP Garrett Crochet to Boston for MiLB prospects: OF Braden Montgomery, 2B Chase Meidroth, C Kyle Teel, and RHRP Wikelman González. Meidroth is the starting 2B, Teel was the starting catcher before he had his hamstring injury (and is due back soon), and now Montgomery is the starting RF. González was a respectable partial season reliever for CWS last year and was trending to get the call again this year when he suffered a lat injury. Crochet was #2 in CY vote last year, but not this year. He had a bad start to the year, and is now hurt. He has a lat sprain that is worse than he thought or that has been reported by Boston executives. Per Crochet, he has no idea as to when he will be able to pitch again.
CWS picked up 3 starting position players for a SP that would have been wasted in Chicago. How many of the three position players would be starting for Boston this year? Does anyone believe that any of the 4 did not welcome the trade to a three straight 100 loss CWS?
I have spoken to dozens of MiLB players and I cannot remember one player saying they would rather play for their favorite team in MiLB where they are blocked rather than get moved to a team where they had a shot at a MLB job.
I do not think Ryan Ward has anything to prove in MiLB. He is proving that he can play MLB. And that is true even understanding that he will probably regress at some point when pitchers have a better book on him. He is happy now playing for LAD, but how will he feel about going back to OKC once Teoscar is back? Teo is due back late June or early July.
BTW, I feel the same with Alex Freeland and Hyeseong Kim about not needing MiLB. There is just not room for both, and soon maybe neither.
More injuries can happen, so there is no need to make any changes until the deadline. I see Ward back in OKC at that time. As far as September call ups and an October extra OF goes, my guess is that is why AF traded for CF Alek Thomas.
Alex Call has done nothing to show he is not an effective and productive #4 OF. Where does that leave Zach Ehrhard and Kendall George? Not only do they not have a prayer of an everyday MLB OF job with LAD, but they are blocked by Call as a 4th OF. We are not talking about players in A Ball or Rookie Ball. These players are arguably considered MLB ready.
It does matter what organization a prospect plays for when the goal is to get to MLB. MiLB players want to get to the Show, not just to play for a specific team…Yes, even the Dodgers.
MiLB GAME SUMMARY REPORT
Charlotte Knights (CWS) 9 – OKC Comets 8
RHSP Christian Romero completed 4.0 innings. He allowed 4 hits and 2 BB to go with his 3 K. He allowed 2 runs in the 1st on a BB, double, and single. Innings 2-4 were shutout innings, but not without traffic.
In the 2nd inning, LF Ryan Fitzgerald was HBP, and moved to second on a WP. 2 ground ball outs moved Fitzgerald to 3rd and home for their 1st run.
With one out, DH Austin Gauthier walked and CF Zach Ehrhard hit a 2-run HR (7) giving OKC a 3-2 lead.
Five relief pitchers followed Romero, with 4 being ineffective. LHRP Jake Eder was the first, and he allowed game tying HR in the 5th inning.
OKC went back ahead in the 6th after 2B Hyeseong Kim had a 1-out single and 3B Taylor Young had a 2-out single. Back to back BB by Gauthier and Ehrhard put OKC back on top.
RHRP Jerming Rosario allowed 3 runs in the 6th. He allowed a HR, a walk, a run scoring triple and WP giving Charlotte a 2 run lead.
In the 7th, with one Fitzgerald singled and moved to 2nd on an error. Fitzgerald scored on Kim’s single. C Eliézer Alfonzo singled with Kim to 2nd. Young doubled (1) to score 2. Gauthier reached on an error with Young scoring.
Going into the 8th, OKC had a 2 run lead. With RHRP Carlos Duran on the mound. He struck out the first two batters, but allowed a BB and 2 doubles to tie the score.
RHRP Wyatt Mills entered in the 9th. He got the 1st out, but then allowed 2 doubles for Charlotte to walk it off.
- Hyeseong Kim – 3-5, 2 runs, 2 RBI
- Jack Suwinski – 2-5, double (18)
- Eliézer Alfonzo – 2-5, 1 run
- Taylor Young – 2-4, 1 BB, 1 run, 2 RBI, double (1)
- Zach Ehrhard – 1-4, 1 BB, 1 run, 3 RBI, HR (7)
Tulsa Drillers 7 – Wichita Wind Surge (Minnesota) 6
RHSP Patrick Copen continued his struggles post April. He allowed 4 runs (all earned) on 5 hits and 3 BB. He registered 5 K.
In the 1st inning, Copen allowed a one out BB, HBP, WP, SB, and fielder’s choice giving Wichita a 1-0 lead.
In the 2nd, he allowed a one-out single. With 2 out, Copen served up a 2-run HR and a 3-0 lead.
In the bottom half of the 2nd inning, C Griffin Lockwood-Powell was HBP, and that was followed by 2B Jake Gelof’s 12th HR.
In the 4th, Copen allowed a one out single, SB, and RBI single.
In the bottom of the 4th, DH Chris Newell walked and stole 2B. He scored on 3B Kyle Nevin’s RBI double (7).
Wichita scored an unearned run in the 5th after a BB, SB, and catcher throwing error. The runner scored on a SF.
In the bottom of the 5th, LF Josue De Paula led off with his 1st triple of the season. CF Mike Sirota walked stretching his reaching base streak to 50 consecutive games. SS Elijah Hainline singled to score
De Paula with Sirota moving to 2nd. Sirota scored after a PB and WP.
LHRP Evan Shaw and LHRP Christian Suarez pitched three scoreless innings allowing Tulsa to go into the 9th tied up at 5-5. RHRP Kelvin Ramirez took the mound in the 9th. He allowed a 2 out solo HR to tie the game.
1B Joe Vetrano reached on a one out error. JDP singled and Sirota walked to load the bases. Hainline walked to bring home the tying run. With 2 outs GLP was HBP bringing home the walk off win.
- Josue De Paula – 2-5, 2 runs, triple (1)
- Kyle Nevin – 2-4, 1 RBI, double (7)
- Jake Gelof – 1-4, 1 run, 2 RBI, HR (12)
- Mike Sirota – 0-2, 3 BB
Great Lakes Loons vs Wisconsin Timber Rattlers (Milwaukee) DH – Game 1 Canceled, Game 2 Postponed to be played on Friday, June 12 as part of a DH
Ontario Tower Buzzers 5 – Lake Elsinore Storm (Padres) 3
Ontario scored 3 in the 2nd. RF Ching-Hsien Ko doubled (9). 1B Easton Shelton smoked a 2-run HR (18). LF Brendan Tunink drew a BB. C Conner O’Neal singled. 2B Javier Herrera laid down a sac bunt, and Tunink scored on a WP giving Ontario a 3-0 lead.
In the 2nd, RHSP Leiter walked the bases loaded and then threw a WP giving the Storm a run.
In the 4th, Shelton led off with a BB. After a BB O’Neal was HBP and Herrera singled to load the bases. DH AJ Soldra hit a 2-out, 2-run single and a 5-1 lead.
With 2 outs in the 3rd, RHRP Jhonny Jimenez relieved Leiter and got the final out. In the 4th, Jimenez allowed a double, a single, and WP to score a run. After 2 outs, Jimenez walked a batter. With runners on 1st and 2nd, Jimenez gave up a run scoring double. RHRP Seamus Barrett relieved Jimenez and gave up a 2 run double tied the score.
With RHRP Will Gagnon on the mound, Ontario scored a run on a single, SB, and RBI single in the 6th. In the 7th, with Gagnon still on the bump, a BB, SB and RBI single scored 1. After one out, Gagnon walked a batter and was lifted for RHRP Javier Bartolozzi. Bartolozzi walked the first batter to load the bases, and balked allowing the 2nd run of the inning to score.
Ontario was down 8-5 entering the 8th. CF Landyn Vidourek and 3B Chase Harlan drew BB. Both runners were moved to 2nd and 3rd on a balk. 2 SF from Ko and Shelton scored 2.
In the 9th, Herrera walked and moved to 2nd on a PB. Soldra doubled home Herrera but did not score himself.
RHRP Jecsua Liborius came in relief in the 9th. He allowed a double and 2 BB to load the bases, but nobody scored.
In the 10th, Ko was the placed runner at 2B. After a K, Ko moved to 3rd on a ground out. O’Neal drew a BB. A WP scored Ko and O’Neal to 2nd. Herrera walked. Soldra singled to score O’Neal giving Ontario a 2-run lead.
Liborius retired the side in order with 2 Ks in the 10th for the win.
- AJ Soldra – 3-5, 4 RBI, double (8)
- Easton Shelton – 1-3, 1 BB, 2 runs, 3 RBI, 1 SF
ACL Dodgers did not play
DSL LAD Bautista 10 – DSL LAD Mega 5
Well there was a guaranteed win for a Rookie League team.
DSL LAD Bautista –
Two of the better IFA signings this past January had good games for Bautista. 17 year old OF (playing DH today) Rubel Arias reached base all 5 times. He was 2-2 with 3 BB, including his 3rd double.
The 2nd is just turned 17 year old (June 2) 3B Ezequiel Melburne. He went 3-4 with a BB and 3 RBI. Melburne now has 11 RBI in 8 games. He is now batting .348 with an OPS of .945.
Another just turned 17 year old (March 24) RF Fran-Jean Haseth was 2-4 with 1 BB, including his 2nd HR and 2nd double.
17 year old switch hitting catcher Ricardo Pulles was 2-3 with a BB and scored 3 times. He hit his first double of the season.
17 year old (May 3) SS Ariel Reynoso hit his 1st HR, a 3-run poke.
DSL LAD Mega –
The Mega batters are not as prolific with the bats as were the Bautista hitters. 18 year old catcher Jose Rivas was 2-3 with his 1st double. 19 year old SS Hendry Arvelo had a two run single.
17 year old (turns 18 September 16) RF Helvin Mendoza was 1-1 with 2 BB.
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This is a great graph for Jeff D: https://x.com/LanceBroz/status/2064736726837272806
After trading all those prospects for Crochet, Boston also gave him a 6/170 contract. (And Crochet, if I recall, had a dominant post season start last year, but Boston lost). Snell only cost money (maybe a draft pick), and was fantastic in the Wild Card game, NLDS, and NLCS. He was just ok in the World Series, but did get the outs needed in Game 7. I think I”d rather have Snell, who has been proven to be a big game pitcher, along with the prospects, over Crochet.
Really nice to see Dustin May turn a corner and pitch well. At first glance it’s not great (4.21 ERA / 3.21 FIP) but he’s pitched over 70 innings, and markedly better than last year (4.96 ERA / 4.88 FIP) But in reality he’s doing great for the Cards: Since two bad starts, May has put up a 2.89 ERA and a 2.86 FIP . From April 5, he’s top 20 in FIP (9th), WAR (12th) and ERA (16th.) His K rate is up and his walk rate is down. More groundballs (45.4%, up from 42.2%) and finding fewer barrels (from 9.2% to 6.7%). A lot more here from Jaffe: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/dustin-may-is-finally-having-his-day/
We came so close to losing last year. We can’t get with a performance like that this time around.
We came so close to losing last year. We can’t get with a performance like that this time around.
I’m hoping something clicks in the postseason and reaches his true talent level.
Biggest problem is how to rank JDP & Sirota. My default is to imagine if one were traded which would hurt worse. I’m not sure. I think there’s something in how the ball jumps off Sirota’s bat. It looks like easy hard contact to me.
The failures of AF haven’t lead to back to back titles. It’s the productive players that stepped up to help to do that in spite of under performing players. I think you can admit the Dodgers were very, very lucky to win the two recent titles. Freddie’s grand slam in game one against the Yankees. That bizarre fifth inning in Game 5 against Cole where the Yankees had three plays happen that wouldn’t happen again one in thousand times. Last year, Game 3 where Will Klein’s out of nowhere four inning relief, Freddie’s HR in the 18th. Game 7 the Dodgers were even luckier. Rojas’ HR to tie the game. The Pages catch where he ran about a mile, leap to make the catch, and knocked Kiki face first into the warning track. The Blue Jays outplayed the Dodgers during most of the Series, but luck was definitely with Los Angeles. Again. In the postseason luck usually plays a big part in who wins. In the last two World Series I was thrilled that luck was with the Dodgers. I can remember many times in the past where that luck was missing for the Dodgers in the postseason and World Series.
Johnny DeLuca helped land Tyler Glasnow.
It’s really hard to imagine Boo Birds going after Mookie, especially with the Dodgers running away with the West. Mookie has earned the fans respect and even love for his performance and personality. Besides, LA isn’t Philly or NYC or Boston…. I’m probably forgetting somebody, but the last Dodger I can recall getting booed in LA was Darryl Strawberry, with the derisive sing-song chant of “Dar-ryl! Dar-ryl!” In retrospect, it was cruel. Strawberry, an LA native, was fighting some personal demons.
Give Tucker props for husting to 1B after he K’ed. That was a BIG run he scored. He could have sulked and just went back to the dugout. Hes gonna be fine.
If you ask who would I rather have, Crochet or Snell, it ia a no-brainer. Crochet. Your package of Rushing, Freeland, Hope and Henriquez sounds very similar to what they got., and they possibly would have accepted that. CWS got two top 100 players (Teel and Montgomery) while your LAD package would have netted them 3 (Rushing, Hope, and Freeland). Instead the Dodgers did what they can do…spend $$$ and keep the prospects. The Dodgers had multiple opportunites to trade Rushing and always chose to keep him. He might have been untouchable at the time. Maybe CWS wanted De Paula over Hope. There is a whole host of reasons that we will never learn why such a deal was not made by the Dodgers.
Dodgers brass saw Pages’s raw talent early and nurtured it. Great arm, potentially great bat, runs well. They knew he’d fit anywhere in the OF. In some ways, i think Pages is similar to Miguel Timmons, I mean Vargas., especially in terms of his hitting ability. The difference, perhaps, is that Dodgers uncharacteristically rushed Miguelito although his defense remained a work in progress. So he wound up back down in OKC. Now Vargas is kicking ass for the White Sox and could join Pages in the all-star game.
If Dolphindude hadn’t said it again, I would have for him.
Tucker should wind up well above average, just based on his history. But I have hard time envisioning his performance ever justifying $60m per year. Right now, he is a middle-of-the-pack bat on the Dodgers. Shohei, Pages, Freddie and Max are all out-hitting him by a wide margin. We look at Mookie and worry that his contract won’t age well–but I fully agree that the Mookie deal has already paid off. In a way, it’s not fair to hammer on Tucker–it’s not his fault he is grossly overpaid. But Tucker is younger than Mookie and after a couple of months I’m already concerned that Tucker’s contract isn’t aging well. When Teo gets back, Ward will likely be sent back to OKC. Edman will be up soon, and he can play OF as well. But Ward’s done himself a big favor with his performance so far. He’s a much better trade chip now than at the start of the season. He’ll have a better chance at a longer career on a small-market team. Right now, Ward has Tibbs, Erhard, Suwinski and Thomas nipping at his heels in OKC, and then the stud prospects in Tulsa right behind them.
And how many West titles since 2013!
All the AF failures have led to back to back championships, 3 in 6 years and a very good shot at a 3 peat. What a total loser! And what ever happened to the Cub and Brave dynasties with all their young talent. Please! What he and his team are doing is historical. Stop whining and enjoy the ride!
As MT has stated many times in the past, relievers are untouchable one season and just awful the next. The Dodgers aren’t waiting for a complete season. Their BP is doing this in the first half of a season. Talk about going from the penthouse to the outhouse within 2-3 weeks is eye opening. Yesterday was better. Those called upon, except for Edgardo Hernandez, did well. As it is during a long season with every player. Hopefully, the recent poor performance is behind them. Count me in the group who are down on Tucker. It’s gotten to the point where I feel sorry for him. He looks like a defeated player these days. I don’t think he has the makeup to be successful and live up to his outrages contract. It sort of reenforces the reason the Cubs didn’t resign him. He has zero charisma and shows no emotion in his play. He rarely hits the ball hard. HIs outfield play started out OK. I didn’t understand the criticism of his defense initially. But, now I do. His throwing motion is odd and arm is average at best. Like Phil Jones mentioned the other day, he’s our Hunter Pence. Pence had the craziest hitting and throwing motions. But, he was a hell of a ballplayer. I believe the front office did a poor job of investigating Tucker’s personality. If they did at all. I think it was known that he didn’t want to be in the spotlight or be the face of a franchise. Did they do an in person interview before signing him to a $60M a year contract? I don’t blame Tucker. He figured with all the stars the Dodgers have that he could get lost in it all. And, that’s probably true. Except when you look like you should be in AAA the first third of the season. Because he is a Dodger I pull for him every at bat to right the ship, get on board, and help drive that ship to a World Championship. My heart is telling me different though. Is this the most recent above market overpay failure by AF? If so, just add it to the pile along with the contracts Betts, Conforto, Teoscar, Edman, Snell, Glasnow, Scott and Diaz. Carry on.
Your probably right Bear. Same goes for Tucker. We got him for 3 years and he isn’t tradable. My point on Kim was that he was sent down to fix a few swing flaws. But he did have options left so he went down on that reasoning. His defense was excellent and his speed helped ignite a few rallies. He will probably be trade bait and I hope he gets somewhere he can get a chance to play.
Prospect evaluation and progress are frequently a “guess.” Take Andy Pages: 2021 – At A+, he hit .265/.933 OPS/31 HR (438 AB) 2022 – At AA, he hit .236/.804 OPS26 HR (487 AB) 2023 – At AA, he hit .284/.925 OPS/3 HR (Injured – 109 AB) 2024 – At AAA, he hit .356/1.084/8 HR ( 101 AB) 2024 – At LA, he hit .248/.712 OPS/13 HR (403 AB) Look at him now. Progress is not linear and seldom predictable. He played very little at AAA because I believe the PCL hurts hitters. I believe Sirota and DePaula will be every bit as good as Pages, but it won’t happen their first year… at least it is unlikely. Tibbs numbers are likely “skewed.” Not saying he’s not goood….
I think Ward is a success story just for making it. I can’t see him starting a postseason game for us so anything he provides now is gravy. Conforto was a whiff and the less said the better. Tucker is still the best option for this year and this is the year that matfers. Bat him 7th in the postseason and hope he finds his swing. His ability to take walks remains a strength. Freeland’s getting tons of reps and showing he’s a bug leaguer. I love his defense at 2B. Kim looks to be weaponizing as a supersub for 2027. Rushing getting his chance too and running with it. We coukd honestly see him start a postseason game with Smith available to pinch-hit late. I call that ideal. Mookie has already helped transform this entire org. Three rings, a culture king, loved by fans. He’s already made his chops. When a better SS option becomes clear, that conversation can be had. Maybe bat him lower though. Still think the bullpen gets a makeover by October. Will we see River Ryan there? Wrobleski? So much success in the pitching department without Snell, Glasnow & Diaz. Go blue
I can understand your agreement with Kevin’s statement about PCL pitching. We have all been disappointed in the past with highly touted Dodger MiLB OF prospects who have failed when promoted. But, to say: “Thinking these prospects can hit MLB pitching is a stretch” suggests that hitting very well in AAA isn’t much of an indicator if they’re MLB ready. Then what the heck is the reason for playing at OKC? I can understand the prospects in high A or AA. The comment – “the Dodgers know when they’ll be ready.” I ask, do they? So, many failures in the recent past. Ryan Ward demolished AAA pitching for 2+ years before even put on the roster. Andy Pages has been the lone success story in the past several years. With the logjam throughout the system of outfielders the FO should know who they feel are the top 2-3 and trade most of the others. Waiting for openings in the current outfield and not reducing the numbers could lead to “Ryan Ward’ situations. It’s not fair to the players. Look what it might have cost Ward in MLB playing time and money. Next season there may zero OF openings more likely than not. Teoscar could be traded and that would open up one spot. Ward may be the player that replaces him if he can continue doing well and is not traded. I doubt the FO is going to add a prospect on the 26 man to have them sit on the bench. Call seems to be a nice 4th OFer and is cheap. Kiki’s status isn’t going to affect the OF spots. Edman will be the super utility guy and can play the OF if needed. Kim is, also, an option. The Dodger past of many failures from there OF prospects when promoted your opinion on their future success could be valid. I feel the number of the current crop of OF prospects seem to be much better than in the past. But, like they say, they’re all just prospects right now.
They are never going to platoon Mookie.
There IS nothing negative about this. It’s not a problem. It’s an opportunity in drag!
You can say that again!