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Dodger Fans Want Player Development. They Just Don't Want to Wait for It!

The point is that early major league failure is a terrible way to judge a young player's ceiling.

By Mark Timmons10 min readJump to 98 comments

There is something fascinating about Dodger fans, and I include myself in this group.

We love prospects. We study prospects. We rank prospects. We argue about prospects. We follow them from the Dominican Summer League to Rancho Cucamonga, Great Lakes, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, and eventually Los Angeles.

We dream about the next Corey Seager, Cody Bellinger, or Will Smith.

But there is one little problem.

We want them fully developed the minute they step onto the field at Dodger Stadium!

We want a 22-year-old rookie to hit .280 with 25 home runs, play Gold Glove defense, never make a baserunning mistake, and preferably hit a three-run homer in his first at-bat.

If he goes 0-for-12?

"Send him back down!"

If he hits .190 after 100 at-bats?

"He's a bust!"

If he makes two errors in a week?

"Trade him while he still has value!"

And then, three years later, when that same player becomes an All-Star somewhere else, we wonder what Andrew Friedman was thinking when he traded him.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Dodger prospect development, where patience is apparently a four-letter word!

Exhibit A: Miguel Vargas

Remember Miguel Vargas?

Of course you do.

Vargas was one of the most highly regarded hitting prospects in the Dodgers' organization. He had excellent bat-to-ball skills, impressive plate discipline, and the ability to hit to all fields.

The Dodgers believed he could hit, and they had good reasons for believing that.

But when Vargas arrived in Los Angeles, things didn't go according to plan.

In 2023, he hit just .195 with seven home runs in 81 games.

That wasn't what Dodger fans expected.

Never mind that he was only 23 years old. Never mind that the Dodgers were trying to turn a natural third baseman into a second baseman. Never mind that hitting major league pitching is considerably more difficult than hitting Triple-A pitching.

He wasn't producing.

And the verdict from many fans was swift.

"He can't hit major league pitching."

"He has no power."

"He's another overhyped Dodger prospect."

Some even questioned whether the Dodgers' player development system had badly misjudged him.

In July 2024, the Dodgers traded Vargas to the Chicago White Sox as part of a three-team deal that brought Tommy Edman and Michael Kopech to Los Angeles.

At the time, there weren't many tears shed over his departure.

And to be fair, the Dodgers had legitimate reasons for making that trade. They were trying to win a World Series, and both Edman and Kopech helped them do exactly that.

But Vargas wasn't finished developing.

Not even close.

After struggling mightily following the trade, he began to figure things out in 2025.

Then came 2026.

Miguel Vargas, 2026:

  • 33 home runs

  • 93 RBI

  • 106 runs scored

  • 22 stolen bases

  • .250 batting average

  • .363 on-base percentage

  • .837 OPS

  • 134 OPS+

  • 5.4 Baseball-Reference WAR

  • American League All-Star

That's not a failed prospect.

That's a very good major league baseball player!

And he was still only 26 years old.

Think about that for a moment.

The young man who supposedly couldn't hit major league pitching just produced 33 home runs, walked 101 times, and became one of the better offensive players in the American League.

Was the talent suddenly created in Chicago?

Of course not.

The talent was always there. The development simply wasn't finished.

Exhibit B: Michael Busch

Now let's talk about Michael Busch.

Busch was another highly regarded Dodger prospect. He was a first-round draft choice in 2019 and consistently produced excellent numbers in the minor leagues.

He could hit. He could draw walks. He had legitimate power.

But where was he going to play?

Freddie Freeman occupied first base. Max Muncy was at third. The Dodgers tried Busch at different positions, but his defensive limitations complicated matters.

When Busch finally reached the major leagues in 2023, he struggled.

He hit .167 in 27 games.

And again, the criticism came quickly.

"He's a Quad-A player."

"He can't handle major league pitching."

"He has no position."

In January 2024, the Dodgers traded Busch and Yency Almonte to the Chicago Cubs for Jackson Ferris and Zyhir Hope.

Unlike Vargas, Busch wasn't traded primarily because the Dodgers had given up on his bat. He was blocked by established major leaguers and needed an everyday opportunity.

Chicago gave him one.

And a funny thing happened.

He started hitting.

Busch hit 21 home runs in 2024, followed by a breakout 2025 season in which he batted .261 with 34 home runs, 90 RBI, and an .866 OPS.

In 2026, his production declined to 20 home runs, 77 RBI, and a .745 OPS.

That decline matters. Player development isn't a straight line, and one excellent season doesn't guarantee the next will be even better.

But Busch has already demonstrated something many people doubted when he left Los Angeles.

He can be a productive everyday major league first baseman.

And he didn't become that player by sitting on the Dodgers' bench waiting for Freddie Freeman to retire.

He became that player by playing.

Every day.

Against major league pitching.

Against left-handers and right-handers.

Through slumps, strikeouts, mistakes, and adjustments.

That's how development works.

The Part Nobody Wants to Hear

Here is the uncomfortable truth.

Player development doesn't end when a player reaches the major leagues.

In many cases, that's where the most important development begins.

A hitter can dominate Triple-A pitching and still be completely unprepared for what major league pitchers will do to him.

They find his weaknesses.

They exploit those weaknesses.

They change how they pitch him.

And just when he figures out one adjustment, they make another.

The hitter must learn to adjust to the adjustments.

That takes time.

Sometimes it takes 300 plate appearances. Sometimes 700. Sometimes two or three seasons.

Some players never make those adjustments, and that's part of the risk.

But how do you know which players will succeed if you never give them a reasonable opportunity?

You don't!

You can have all the Statcast data, exit velocities, launch angles, swing decisions, and scouting reports in the world.

Eventually, somebody has to put the kid in the lineup and let him play baseball.

The Dodgers Have a Unique Problem

Now, before somebody accuses me of wanting the Dodgers to operate like the Chicago White Sox, understand something.

I don't.

The Dodgers are not rebuilding.

They are expected to compete for the World Series every single year.

That changes everything.

A team trying to win 100 games doesn't have the same freedom to give a struggling rookie 600 plate appearances that a rebuilding team has.

And Andrew Friedman understands that better than anybody.

The Dodgers must constantly balance winning today against developing players for tomorrow.

That's not easy.

But there is another danger.

If you never make room for your prospects because you always have a veteran who is slightly better today, you can eventually find yourself with a very expensive, very old baseball team.

Sound familiar?

Look at the Dodgers' aging core.

Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, Max Muncy, Teoscar Hernández, and others have been outstanding players.

But Father Time has never lost a baseball game.

Not one.

The Dodgers cannot simply keep buying expensive veterans indefinitely and expect their farm system to remain a renewable source of young talent.

At some point, prospects need opportunities.

And opportunities require patience.

The Next Vargas or Busch Might Already Be Here

Which brings us to 2027.

Who is the next Dodger prospect who will be declared a bust after 100 at-bats?

Alex Freeland?

Hyeseong Kim?

Josue De Paula?

Someone else?

Freeland has demonstrated versatility and the ability to play multiple infield positions. But what happens if he hits .210 for his first two months?

Will fans demand that the Dodgers trade him?

Kim has intriguing athleticism, speed, and defensive ability. But what if he struggles against major league fastballs?

Will we decide he can't play?

De Paula is one of the most exciting offensive prospects in the organization. But what happens if he arrives in Los Angeles and strikes out 35 times in his first 100 plate appearances?

Will we suddenly forget everything he accomplished in the minor leagues?

I can almost hear it now.

"He's overmatched!"

"He's not ready!"

"Get somebody who can hit!"

And maybe those criticisms will be justified.

Or maybe the young man simply needs time.

The challenge is knowing the difference.

Patience Does Not Mean Blind Faith

I am not suggesting that every highly rated prospect deserves 1,000 major league plate appearances.

Some players really are Quad-A players.

Some have holes in their swings that never get corrected.

Some lack the defensive ability to play a position at the major league level.

Some simply aren't as good as the scouts thought they were.

And sometimes trading a prospect is absolutely the right decision.

The Dodgers won a championship with significant contributions from players acquired in the Vargas trade.

Would I undo that championship to get Vargas back?

Absolutely not!

Likewise, Busch was blocked by Freddie Freeman, and the Dodgers acquired two talented prospects in return.

The wisdom of that deal must include what Ferris and Hope eventually become.

But those considerations don't change the central point.

A player's struggles at age 22 or 23 do not necessarily tell us what he will become at age 26 or 27.

That is especially true for hitters who have demonstrated excellent strike-zone judgment and a track record of hitting throughout the minor leagues.

Vargas and Busch were not unknown players who suddenly discovered how to hit after leaving Los Angeles.

They were accomplished young hitters who needed time, opportunity, and experience.

There's Another Side to This

Dodger fans aren't the only impatient people in this equation.

Sometimes the organization itself becomes impatient.

Or perhaps impatient isn't the right word.

Sometimes the organization becomes trapped by its own success.

Every season is a championship season. Every position is occupied by an established player. Every slump becomes a crisis, and every trade deadline creates another opportunity to acquire a veteran.

And because the Dodgers have the money and prospects to make those deals, they often do.

That's understandable.

But there is a price.

When young players aren't allowed to develop in Los Angeles, they sometimes develop somewhere else.

The Dodgers get the finished veterans.

Other teams get the growing pains and, occasionally, the payoff.

That's a reasonable strategy when the trades produce championships.

But it cannot be the entire long-term strategy.

What I Would Like to See in 2027

I believe the Dodgers need to make a conscious effort to inject youth into their roster.

Not five rookies. Not an entire rebuilding movement.

Just one or two legitimate opportunities for young players to establish themselves.

If Freeland earns the second-base job in spring training, give him a real chance to keep it.

If Kim earns it, let him play.

If De Paula demonstrates that his bat and defense are ready for left field, don't automatically dismiss him because he is young.

And don't judge any of them solely by their first month.

Give them clear expectations. Give them coaching. Give them opportunities to make adjustments.

And then evaluate whether the underlying skills are improving.

There is a difference between a young hitter who is overwhelmed and one who is learning.

Good organizations must recognize that difference.

Great organizations must act on it.

The Final Word

Dodger fans love the farm system.

We love talking about prospects.

We love dreaming about the next superstar.

We just don't particularly enjoy watching the process that turns a prospect into a superstar.

We want the finished product.

Preferably yesterday.

But Miguel Vargas and Michael Busch should remind us that player development doesn't operate according to the expectations of fans, sportswriters, or people typing furiously on baseball blogs.

It operates according to the abilities, maturity, opportunities, and adjustments of individual players.

Some develop quickly.

Some develop slowly.

Some never develop at all.

And some become All-Stars after we have already declared them failures.

The Dodgers cannot afford unlimited patience.

But they also cannot afford to have none.

Because sometimes the difference between a failed prospect and a future star isn't another batting coach, another swing adjustment, or another trip to Oklahoma City.

Sometimes the difference is simply 500 more major league plate appearances.

And if we aren't willing to endure the growing pains, we shouldn't be surprised when another organization enjoys the rewards.

So here's my question for LADT readers:

Are Dodger fans really willing to let young players develop, or do we only want prospects after somebody else has done the developing?

And more importantly, which young Dodger would you be willing to give 500 plate appearances in 2027, even if he struggles early?

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  1. Dano1d ago

    The Dodgers are in the midst of the greatest run in history. And what do I read? They're at a crossroads, they're toooo old blah blah blah....seriously? AF knows how old they are. Dang, I'm sure glad he's making the decisions and not you guys or we would be looking up at the Rockies. They will be younger in 27, and again in 28. No transition needed. Business as usual. The oldest team in baseball was picked to win it all. And again next year. What am I missing? Are we so spoiled that we won't accept the tremendous successes the Dodgers are giving their fans? We expect perfection. Really? Most fans rarely sniff the WS. We get to every year. Whatever I am, a homer , a sentimentalist, a fairy tale believer or whatever. I will with my own eyes revel in this incredible moment of time instead of looking back on it from the future. Now that's a realist! As to your 2 questions.... I prefer to let AF make the player development decisions. Why not. And 500 at bats for Josue. Let Kim and Freeland fight it out. Book em

  2. Jeff Dominique1d ago

    I know, shocking!! I agree. I have been accused of limiting my sight to AAAA players. I believe in giving prospects a chance. We have already heard some here say they want an elite player at every position. That is a legit position, just not one I think is reasonable. IMO that gives reason to sign Teoscar to a 2nd FA deal, sign Michael Conforto, sign Jason Heyward, and sign Kyle Tucker to an outlandish contract.

    Then there is Luke Raley who has grinded out a nice MLB career. Not an All Star, but a MLB player.

    Connor Wong has had a decent career as a backup catcher for Boston. He even started for much of 2023 & 2024. He even had double digit HR in 2025. And Alex Verdugo played decently after being traded to Boston with Wong in the Mookie Betts trade.

    Ryan Pepiot had 2 good years with Tampa Bay before sitting out all of 2026 (hip surgery, not an arm problem). He had 26 starts and 130 IP in 2024 and 31 starts and 167.2 IP in 2025, with 3.60 and 3.86 ERA. Ryan Pepiot did not get that start or even an appearance in the disastrous 2023 NLDS loss to Arizona. Instead the Dodgers chose veteran Lance Lynn to start Game 3. Did not go well.

    Dodgers correctly chose Will Smith over Keibert Ruiz. That did not take away from what Ruiz has accomplished as a catcher for Washington.

    At 25, Jorbit Vivas is still trying to establish himself with Washington, and is not embarrassing himself.

    Like with Vargas and Busch, I would have made every one of the trades involving the above players. AF has had a great run in trades. One reason why I have no idea why other teams want to go up against AF in trades. Not so much for FA.

    To be fair, there have been total busts of highly touted LAD top prospects. Diego Cartaya, Yadier Alvarez, Jeren Kendall, DJ Peters, Kody Hoese, and Maddux Bruns is well on his way to bust status.

    I fully expect both Alex Freeland and Emmet Sheehan to get traded for one of those elite middle infielders.

  3. Daytona Jack1d ago

    When February rolls around, we will get an idea of which prospects float to the top. Based on the minor league play, JDP, Erdhard and Tibbs will create a stir. Maybe if we don't pick up a SS or 2B (Lopez), Kim or Freeland may warrant a seat in LA. They to will keep the lower level guys in the minors for another year because they can. I added Erdhard because he ican play CF with speed and made big strides last year. If he shows his good defense and decent power, he could be the fourth OF.

  4. John4h ago

    I believe the Dodgers have a long term plan so they will influx youth while being a contender for the World Series Championship every year. By July DePaula will be the everyday left fielder and we will have a young player at short or second base. After the 27 season the youth will be at first and third. 28 right field (Tucker’s contract is up) and Smith will be in a full platoon. The catcher position is most concerning. Wasn’t long ago we had 4 catchers in our top 30. Now we have one who is ranked 30th. Just like any successful business I’m sure the dodgers have a minimum of a five year plan. The plan will always evoked depending how things plan out. I’d bet somewhere on a computer in the Dodgers front office they have a depth chart for 2031. If they don’t they should. I’d bet serious money Mark has a five or a minimum of a three year business plan. I believe there is a saying “if you don’t have a plan for the future, you have no plan.’

  5. Campy5h ago

    Kenley Jansen has 498 saves and he has been released by the Tigers. I would like to see us bring him back to get his 500 and then retire him as a Dodger

  6. Jorge Valenzuela1d ago

    Miguel Vargas was one of my favorite prospects; it’s a good thing he was traded to another team. In LA, he would have just remained on the bench, waiting for Muncy to finally leave. I think it might be time for the Dodgers to take a break and regroup—let go of the many veterans who are now all but unnecessary, allow some contracts to expire, let the rookies show what they can do while gaining experience, and reset the payroll. I don’t know—just give the team some breathing room and take off some of the pressure to win every single year.

  7. 4-Gens1d ago

    The Vargas trade totally work out --it helped us win a title--period. Imagine being the Padres and trading away Wood and Abrams without a title.

  8. Michael "Bear" Norris1d ago

    The team needs an influx of youth; there is no doubt of that. 20 players on the current 40-man are under 30. Most of them pitchers. Freddie will play out his contract. There is zero chance he gets TRADED to Atlanta for a farewell tour. He might go there as a free agent, but he will play in LA if there is a season in 27. That is what many seem to forget, a 27 season is not a foregone conclusion. We will know more come December. Teo has been mentioned prominently in several trade rumors one of them involving his old team, the Jays.

  9. Andrew V Forte1d ago

    For the 2027 MLB season, the qualifying offer is set at $23.15 million, and eight players received one-year QOs before the Nov. 2, 2026 deadline, including Randy Arozarena, Brandon Lowe, Seiya Suzuki, Trevor Rogers, Adrian Morejon, David Bednar, Jake Bauers, and Ryan Jeffers.

    What a Qualifying Offer Is A qualifying offer (QO) is a one-year contract valued at the average of MLB’s top 125 salaries. For 2027, the QO value is $23.15 million. Teams must extend QOs five days after the World Series, and players have until Nov. 17 to accept or reject. Players who accept are signed for one year; those who reject become free agents with draft-pick compensation attached.

  10. Duke Not Snider1d agoEdited

    We can always count on the pot calling the kettle black. I can't help but recall, again, how Mark was so patient waiting for James Outman to develop he once went all Aesop on him and his boy Miguelito in their rookie seasons. After a blazing start--Max and Outman were carrying the Dodgers offense--went into a slump, while Vargas, having been gift-wrapped the 2B job by management, suddenly had a hot week. Mark likened Vargas to the tortoise and Outman to a hare. Get it? Well before the all-star break, as I recall it, Mark was calling Vargas a winner and dissing Outman as a loser. But waddaya know? Then Outman got hot, hit to a .780 OPS with 22 HRs and wound up finishing 3rd in ROY balloting. Meanwhile, Vargas's struggles on both offense and defense sent him back to OKC. The much-hyped Vargas, clearly, wasn't ready for primetime. Outman, with no hype, won the CF job in spring training. There was no actual competition between Vargas and Outman as they played different positions. The way I see, Vargas never got shafted by Dodgers management the way that Outman and Ryan Ward when AF made the mistake of spending $17 million on Conforto. Instead of an OF that read Conforto-Pages-Teo, an OF of Teo-Outman-Pages would have surely played better defense. There's also a good chance that Outman, or an Outman/Edman platoon, would have outhit Conforto. Of course we'll never know. Mark says the Dodgers management gave up on Vargas as a hitter? I don't know about that--but they clearly found him wanting on defense. If Vargas had stayed around, perhaps he'd have been Max's semi-platoon partner. Like others here, I think LF is a place to park an exceptional bat with a mediocre glove--sub-par at every position he tried. If Vargas had succeeded, the Dodgers may not have extended Teo or decided to plunk down $240 million on Tucker. We'll never know. What we do know is that Vargas benefited greatly from getting traded to a team that would be counting on him to be an everyday player. That was a three-team swap that brought in Edman, a guy with great UT skills, and Michael Kopeck. It worked out great for Vargas, while Edman and Kopeck helped the Dodgers win the WS. Outman would get traded too, which is why Brock Stewart is member of the Dodgers bullpen and probably why Justin Dean will forever remembered in Dodger lore for the clutch defense of signaling to the umps that a driven ball was wedged at the base of a wall, thus preventing a run from scoring. Very smart. Could Outman have made that play? We'll never know. Did the Dodgers "give up" on Vargas or Busch? I really don't think so. They received ample opportunity (especially Vargas) but never adequately proved their fit with guys like Freddie and Max blocking their paths. The trades make sense. The Dodgers also gave more than ample opportunity for Gavin Lux to live up the hype. He fell short. It's amazing to me that the Reds wound up giving up Sirota and the draft pick that became Davalan to get Lux. Neither Sirota or Davalan have reached Triple A, but that deal looks like an absolute steal. Lux is a free agent now. I hope it works out and he lives happily ever after..

  11. Lionelsmirk1d ago

    Well, after watching a carefully crafted reverse-engineering of a 100 win regular season team, I'm ready for a rawer, realer group of guys getting after it this season. So much for saving it for the postseason.

  12. Duke Not Snider11h ago

    Hey Bear! I enjoy the all-time teams folks concoct from time to time. For example, the all-short team, featuring Hack Wilson. Or all-ugly team. (Didn't Bouton have an all-ugly team in one of his books? Iethink Joe Torre made it... though I don't think Torrewas a bad looking guy. Maybe he aged gracefully.) Maybe visions Elly de la Cruz in Dodger blue that had me thinking about the Dodgers' all-time electric team, made up of players you just had to watch. Charismatic qualities help. (The all-rizz team?) Some choices are obvious... --Jackie Robinson. Too bad we don't have more film of the man, but his disruptive base-running exploits were legendary. (Not to mention the electrifying history.) --Maury Wills. (Revolutionized the running game.) --Yasiel Puig, dubbed "the wild horse" by Vin for good reason. Played with emotion. Who else? To me, Koufax and Fernando stand out among the pitchers. Quietly electric: Shohei. He's a fairly stoic player, but you gotta watch the unicorn. I have some other nominees, but I'd be interested in everybody's perspective. I figure Bear knows the history best. Later we can come up with the all-snooze team....

  13. Michael "Bear" Norris23h ago

    MLB submitted a new proposal to the MLBPA, which was immediately rejected. The only change was pushing back the implementation of a salary cap and floor from 2027 to 28. No bueno said the MLBPA. Uceta of the Rays undergoing shoulder surgery. Orioles open to listening to trade offers on most of their players per MLBTR. Mariners hired Jason Kinzler, 36 years old, no managing experience.

  14. Duke Not Snider1d agoEdited

    For those of us still looking for silver linings, DodgersDigest offers video that purports to show "Every Josue de Paula HR from 2026," which is not quite true. It doesn't include his first bomb in the majors. He hit them to all fields, off fastballs and breaking balls. I was stuck by how, although he is a few inches shorter than James Wood, his swing and the power it generates is similar. And while this is collection of long balls, welve already witnessed that JdP is a patient hitter who will take his walks. (Hence the Juan Soto comps.) On that note, let's revisit the Miguelito matter Like JdP, Vargas was promoted to the majors as a rookie late in the season. This happened in August 2022, the season that Belli mysteriously collapsed. Like JdP, Vargas was heralded for his so-called "hit tool"--and not just by Mark. But unlike JdP, Miguelito did not hit much at all. Perhaps more important, he walked even less. In 50 PAs down the stretch in 2022, Vargas had 8 hits for a .170 BA, and just TWO walks. His OPS was .455. JdP's rookie debut featured 42 PAs, which resulted in 10 hits and 11 walks. He batted .323 with a .500 OBP, with an OPS of .1.081. Another similarity: Both Miguelito and JdP were selected to the post-season roster. It seemed obvious to me that Vargas simply wasn't ready. He had seen ball four in just 4% of his plate appearances, evidently because he was so eager to impress everybody with his bat. The Dodgers were hurting that season, mostly because of Belli's collapse, which led to the briefly heroic rise of Trayce Thompson. But AF made mistakes. When he traded for Joey Gallo--a big name, at least--it seemed like a good move, but Gallo didn't do much. (In retrospect AF would have been better off sticking with Outman, who had a successful debut earlier in the season--one that Mark dismissed as "lucky."). In his 50 PAs, Vargas had mostly proven he wasn't ready. When Roberts needed a right0handed pinch-hitter in a key moment in the playoffs, he didn't turn to Vargas, but to Austin Barnes. All water over the dam, or under the bridge. Or just so much spilt milk. But there are lessons to be learned, right? Or maybe not. Despite the disappointing debut, the skids were greased for Vargas to take over 2B, while Lux was pencilled in at SS. The Lux-Vargas keystone dream was dashed first when Lux suffered a season-ending injury, and later the struggles that sent Vargas back to OKC. Plainly, the Dodgers rushed Vargas. The problem wasn't that fans lacked patience. The problem was that Dodgers' management was impatient. The good news is that JdP seems very ready, and the skids seem greased for him in LF. And Miguel Vargas seems ready to play happily ever after in Chicago.

  15. Bumsrap1d agoEdited

    Sirota Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Arm: 55 | Field: 55 | Overall: 60

    De Paula Scouting grades: Hit: 65 | Power: 60 | Run: 40 | Arm: 50 | Field: 40 | Overall: 60

    Quintero Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 60 started out catching

  16. Sir Watford1d ago

    Really good post today Mark. Lot of good points.

  17. philjones1d ago

    What a terrific post Mark. You make so many good points. Without checking into my memory banks too much for accuracy, I remember Tommy Hutton who debuted at like 20 but was a first baseman behind Wes Parker. Both could really pick it but Tommy didn't have much pop. My recollection is Tommy got sent back down to AAA for like 5 straight years. I think he may have won a PCL Triple Crown after his 5th demotion which speaks a lot of his character and lack of free agency. Finally he was traded to the Phillies and got the break he needed. He ended up with 9 years in MLB with 3 other teams. I trust Bear can correct my paper.

  18. Bluto1d agoEdited

    Totally agree.

    Listening to the fans is nonsensical.

    But, now more than ever, people like to be be negative. And right now? What else is there to write?

  19. Mark Timmons1d ago

    USA Today’s Bob Nightengale noted the move Monday on X, formerly Twitter, highlighting Perry’s lengthy tenure in San Diego.

    “The Los Angeles Dodgers hire Caroline Perry away from the San Diego Padres to become their executive vice president and chief operating officer. Perry, who had been the Padres’ highest-ranking female employee in franchise history, had been with the Padres for the past 16 years.”

    Perry takes over for Bob Wolfe, who will retire at the end of the year and remain with the Dodgers as an adviser.

    Her arrival follows a steady rise through the Padres’ organization. A San Diego native, Perry joined the club as associate general counsel in April 2011 and became chief operating officer in January 2023.

    Her responsibilities included ballpark operations, business strategy and analytics, legal, finance, government affairs and information technology. She also worked on major projects, including the renovation of Gallagher Square at Petco Park.

    Before entering baseball, Perry practiced corporate law at Davis Polk & Wardwell and Cravath, Swaine & Moore. She holds degrees from Stanford University and Columbia Law School.

    The Dodgers also promoted Royce Cohen from senior vice president of business strategy to executive vice president and chief business officer on the same day.

    Together, the moves bring an experienced outside executive and an internal promotion into the Dodgers’ business leadership as Wolfe prepares to step aside.-- Clutchpoints

  20. Lionelsmirk1d ago

    Whoever was talking about Dubon may be onto something.

  21. Duke Not Snider1d ago

    Another minor point about Vargas.... If the Dodgers had held on to him and worked hard to make him a legitimate left fielder, he may have never developed into an all-star. There's a lot to be said about a fresh start on a new team with new coaches who have their own expectations and methods to help a player improve. (Lux, I think, felt the pressure of great expectations with the Dodgers, and perhaps Vargas and Busch felt that too.) Different strokes for different folks. It would not surprise me at all if Bobby Miller gets traded and somehow reclaims his rookie form, when he looked like a future mid-rotation stalwart. The Dodgers now have him as bullpen insurance, but I hope he gets the kind of fresh start that Vargas and Busch got.

  22. Duke Not Snider1d ago

    Mark's essay points to a genuine dilemma... Should Freeland or Kim get the chance to prove himself? They are obviously in direct competition. In '26, Freeland got roughly double Kim's opportunity. Kim probably would have gotten even less if not for the injury to Mookie early in the season. We also saw how the Dodgers preference for veterans (perhaps certain veterans) limit the ability for prospects to demonstrate their value. The Dodgers went all-in with idea of "running it back" with Kike, with mixed results. (Perhaps it was fitting that Kike lined out to end the series. At least it wasn't an ignominious pop up or a whiff.)

  23. Duke Not Snider1d agoEdited

    In related news, Brice Turang will be battling Shohei in the ballots to determine who is the NL MVP runner-up to Pete Crow-Armstrong... Will the Brewers be able to hang on to Turang or will he the next Brewer to be traded before hitting free agency? I only recently learned that Turang attended the same Corona high school later attended by Dino Ebel's son, before they got drafted. Corona is a hot bed of youth baseball. One summer few years back, when he was about 11, I took my crafty southpaw to play with a team that needed a fill-in. We wound up at large faciilty with a couple acres of parking with four or five baseball fields all mocked up to resemble historic parks. Forget the name, something like "American Dream Fields," maybe I think the "Fenway" had a Green Monster. You paid an admission fee to get it, and there was a large eatery with good ballpark grub situated in the middle. Dozens of teams matched up at proper age levels. Quite a scene.