SponsorUS Water Systems
LA Dodger Talk

Construction of A 40 Man Roster Part One

The Hot Stove League is always fun for us armchair GMs, allowing us to look at ways of improving a reigning World Series championship team. Not just a WS championship team, but THE consensus choice of the best team in MLB for 2020. But changes must be made. Nothing can stay at the top by being stagnant. Changes can come internally or externally. AF is a master as to building

By Jeff Dominique6 min readJump to 68 comments

The Hot Stove League is always fun for us armchair GMs, allowing us to look at ways of improving a reigning World Series championship team.  Not just a WS championship team, but THE consensus choice of the best team in MLB for 2020.  But changes must be made.  Nothing can stay at the top by being stagnant.  Changes can come internally or externally.  AF is a master as to building the team, and hopefully the team’s makeup is of strong character and confidence at being the best.

Before we can look at any potential changes, we need to first review where the team currently sits.  Before a builder can frame a house, they must first have a sound foundation.  For a MLB team, that is the 40 man roster.  Currently the LAD 40 man roster sits at 31.  None 2020 LAD players are no longer on the 40 man:

  • Pedro Baez – FA – (RHRP)
  • Jake McGee – FA – (LHRP)
  • Blake Treinen – FA – (RHRP)
  • Alex Wood – FA – (Swing Pitcher)
  • Justin Turner – FA – (3B)
  • Kike’ Hernandez – FA – (INF/OF)
  • Joc Pederson – FA – (OF)
  • Jimmy Nelson (RHP) – LAD declined option with $500K buyout
  • Terrance Gore (OF) – LAD outrighted

No Dodger received a Qualifying Offer of $18.9MM, and all are free agents.  That is almost a 25 % reduction of the 40 man roster, and will need to be replenished.  The current structure of the 40 man roster is as follows:

  • 16 Pitchers
  • 3 Catchers
  • 6 Infielders
  • 6 Outfielders

While Caleb Ferguson will not be playing in 2021, he will be included on the 40 man when they are set for the Winter.  He will not be allowed to be placed on the 60 day IL until ST.  There are nine open spots, and potentially more if need be. 

Fortunately, only one of the FA figured to be a front line player in 2021, and he is a 36 year old 3B. While JT is a quality 3B, he no longer plays at the AS level, and has played in 80%, 64%, 83%, and 70% of the games for the last four years.  While his defense was stellar in the WS, there is no question that JT has a plus gear in October. However, he no longer possesses the plus defense he once flashed, and JT is probably better suited for DH.  Regardless, JT is a staple for the Dodgers and for the LA community.  I think it is entirely plausible (and even likely) that JT and AF will come to a favorable agreement keeping JT in LA for the entirely of his career.  It could be two more years and then a Chase Utley type final contract.

AF is very loyal to his players, but is not emotional.  So while I might expect Joc, Kike’, and any of the four relievers to get offers from the Dodgers, I would not expect any of the Dodger FAs to get any above market offers.  That will be especially true after the losses the Dodgers incurred in a 60 game season, and what looks to be a reduced schedule for 2021, and then a potential labor issue shortening the 2022 season.  Thus, potentially that could be three consecutive seasons with significantly reduced revenues.  The Dodgers will be able to cover the losses, but with no revenue sharing in 2020, and looking to be off the table again for 2021, several organization’s ability to pay for free agents is threatened.     

FA contract offers will be down because of revenue concerns.  However, both Joc and Kike’ seem to be on short lists for many teams and likely looking to get starting roles and 2-3 year contracts, neither of which the Dodgers will offer.  Both Joc and Kike’ have been very good Dodgers, but both will be moving on.

As far as the relievers go, three of the four were very much counted on for 2020, and the 4th had some positive moments in the playoffs.  The Dodgers relief needs are primarily in late inning high leverage situations.  The Dodgers did not use Jake McGee in that role during the playoffs, giving a strong indication that, right or wrong, they do not look at Jake as a late inning high leverage reliever.  I do not see a role for Jake as a Dodger reliever in 2021.

Blake Treinen is quite possibly a more predictable late inning high leverage option than is Kenley Jansen, but is he enough to give a multi-year contract to?  The Dodgers are already on the hook for $28.883MM for two relievers (KJ and Joe Kelly).  It seems unlikely that the Dodgers will compound that with another multi-year high contract amount for a reliever in 2021. Relief pitching seems to be the most coveted position on team wish lists, so if there are going to be any above market offers from teams, look for relievers to get those offers. Blake Treinen could fit in that role.   That will be especially true from teams where the bullpen was the biggest weakness in 2020.  Think Philadelphia, Blue Jays, Nationals, Marlins, Mariners…

The current Dodger bullpen makeup is:

  • Dylan Floro (RHP) – Middle
  • Victor Gonzalez (LHP) – Rookie late inning
  • Brusdar Graterol – Rookie late inning
  • Kenley Jansen – Former closer
  • Joe Kelly – Bridge from middle to late inning
  • Adam Kolarek – Middle

Others on the 40 man are Scott Alexander (LHP), Dennis Santana (RHP), Josh Sborz (RHP), Mitch White (RHP).

Alex Wood has outwardly stated that he would absolutely consider a relief role for the Dodgers in 2021.  After losing Ross Stripling, the Dodgers do not have a veteran swing man, and Alex Wood can fill that role.  Both AF and Doc are comfortable with Pedro Baez, and Baez is very comfortable with LAD.  The Dodgers are going to need middle relief, and Baez can fit that role, if he does not have his sights set on a more high leverage role.  Dodger management needs to understand that Baez is not the person to bring in with runners on base.  Have him start the 6th or 7th; he could be very effective.  I can see AF making an offer to both Wood and Baez, but not huge contracts.  There will be plenty of like kind relievers on the market.  Neither figure to be an upgrade, and both pitchers’ ceilings are limited, so it is also just as conceivable that neither will be offered a contract. 

While the Dodgers may have exposed the overworked Rays bullpen, Tampa Bay proved that an organization can build a quality bullpen without high priced relievers.  I do not think any of the Dodger relievers on the 40 man that did not make the playoff roster are options for any late inning options.  It could be that the bullpen will have a makeover it 2021. The one pitcher I very much look forward to seeing on the roster is 23 year old Brett de Geus.  I have been on the bandwagon for de Guess for three years now.  For me, he is the right hand version of Caleb Ferguson.

With an abundance of capable starting pitching on the active roster (Buehler, Kershaw, Price, Urias, May, and Gonsolin), one of May or Gonsolin will be designated to the bullpen.

The Dodgers have nine openings for their 40 man, and there could be players currently on the 40 man that may find themselves being designated for assignment.

Players who could potentially find themselves DFA:

  • Josh Sborz
  • Scott Alexander
  • Dennis Santana
  • Luke Raley

Nine MiLB players will get some consideration for Rule 5 draft protection:

Pitching (5)

  • Andre Jackson (RHP)
  • Edwin Uceta (RHP)
  • Gerardo Carrillo (RHP)
  • Marshall Kasowski (RHP)
  • Brett de Geus (RHP)

Infielder (1)

  • Omar Estevez (2B)

OF (3)

  • Zach Reks (LHH)
  • Cody Thomas (LHH)
  • Jeren Kendall (LHH)

Not all of the nine will get protected.  Maybe only one (de Gues).

Mark previously broke down his pitcher analysis, and I will attempt to provide my pitching analysis and depth chart in my next post.

Discussion (68)

Disagree, not disagreeable

Be civil — moderation is real. Links may need a moment of review.

  1. DanielNovember 2, 2020

    It seems that teams will not be willing to payout as much this off season due to budget unknowns. That could leave many valuable players wanting to secure a contract at reduced value. Will they sign early to insure that, or will they be left waiting for someone to call.

    The safest thing for a front office to do is bring up players from the farm. But it also seems like a good time for teams w money to get better for pennies on the dollar.

  2. Mark TimmonsNovember 2, 2020

    This is from ThinkBlueLA:

    Open on thinkbluela.comhttps://thinkbluela.com/2020/10/the-other-dodger/

    “During his on-field ceremonial speech, Dodgers manager Dave Roberts thanked his players, the front office personnel, and team owners.

    …and then he thanked two additional people:

    “Rick Honeycutt, who’s not here, thank you. Ross Stripling, who’s not here – thank you,” Roberts said to the 11,437 fans in attendance at Globe Life Field in Arlington, TX, and to the millions of television viewers around the world.

    …including Ross Stripling.

    “I was in a pretty weird mental space watching that celebration,” Stripling told ThinkBlueLA in an exclusive interview. “Knowing the hard work that went into that championship, so excited for all the guys. But also feeling very left out and left behind.

    “But then Dave Roberts said my name, and I almost couldn’t believe it,” Stripling added. “For my name to go through his mind right there, during his World Series speech, was mind-blowing to me. It shows you what kind of man he is and how much class he has. It really meant a lot to me and made me feel included with the group, even though I wasn’t there.”

    PURE CLASS BY DAVE ROBERTS!

    Now, there is this:

    BASEBALL-REFERENCE: August 31, 2020: Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers to the Toronto Blue Jays for a player to be named later and player to be named. The Toronto Blue Jays sent Kendall Williams (minors) (September 1, 2020) to the Los Angeles Dodgers to complete the trade.

    My question is whether there is another player involved? The trade was: for a player to be named later and player to be named. Isn’t that 2 players? The Dodgers have only received Kendall Williams… or is Williams as good as two players? 😉

  3. QuasimodoNovember 2, 2020

    So glad you’re feeling better Mark. Hope that continues and you end feeling better than before your getting sick.

  4. Mark TimmonsNovember 2, 2020

    Jeff, this absolutely nails it: “But changes must be made. Nothing can stay at the top by being stagnant. Changes can come internally or externally. AF is a master as to building the team, and hopefully the team’s makeup is of strong character and confidence at being the best.”

    Yes, change is inevitable. I would love to have Baez, Wood, and Turner back. Kike and Treinen too… but that seems unlikely to me. I too think Brett de Geus’ time in now! Then, there is almost always “that guy” who surprises everyone. This year, it was Victor Gonzalez. He’s going to get even better moving forward and I can see him being used in save situations in 2021.

    This is the year that some youngsters need to step up if they can: de Geus, Graterol, White, Carrillo, Uceta… to name a but few – that’s because of the $28.883MM for two relievers (KJ and Joe Kelly). I think most Dodger fans feel like that is money thrown away. All I can say is that 2019 and 2020 were not great years for Kenley and Joe… but as we all know, bullpen guys are fickle… and many of these guys are capable of a good year in three! Never assume!

    Also, WHAT IF, Dustin May were asked to go to the bullpen for only 2021 and Graterol becomes the #5? One year!

More from Dodger Talk

Dodgers Food Trailer

I did this interview a couple of weeks ago with Chef Mike, who runs the Dodgers Food Trailer for the Great Lakes Loons. They are there for every home and road regular season and playoff game. They prepare three meals a day for approximately 50 people (players and coaches). Since games end late most evenings, they do not prepare breakfast. Many of their hotels have a complimentary breakfast anyway. However,…

By Mark Timmons · July 17, 202673

Meet LAD 2026 Draft Picks 1-12

3 picks were High School players (2 SS and 1 OF). There was a college OF, college catcher, college SS, and 10 college pitchers. Of all the talk for a need for a catcher, the only catcher the Dodgers selected was Luke Bard, son of LAD bullpen coach Josh Bard. Bard was a 4th year senior from Houston Christian University. He is not a prospect, so the Dodgers are still…

By Jeff Dominique · July 16, 202674

Interview with Paul Beachy – Team Bus Driver For The Great Lakes Loons (LA Dodgers Minor League Team)

It’s been a few days since I did this interview. We have evidently been working my son-in-law (the video guy) like a rented mule at US Water Systems. However, I am taking him to London with me in a few days, so maybe Watford will buy him a pint as a tip, but he’s a dang Red Sox fan, so there is that! I thought that it would be interesting…

By Mark Timmons · July 15, 202652

Thanks for Your Service: Chris Taylor

I was going to do this post when Chris announced he was retiring, then he changed his mind, but since the chances of him ever playing for the Dodgers again are slim and non-existent, I will go ahead with this post. He unretired, went on the IL, then decided to call it quits on May 24th. Taylor was born in Virginia Beach VA on August 29th, 1990. He attended Great…

By Michael "Bear" Norris · July 14, 202676