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Changes in Baseball Are Coming!

There is so much talk about Ohtani and Stanton right about now, that there is not much buzz about changes to teams and the game of baseball itself. Rob Manfred is intent on speeding up play and will implement a pitch clock, likely as soon as 2018 but there will be other changes as well maybe not all next season, but they are coming. Designated Hitter in the NL

By Mark Timmons3 min readJump to 119 comments

There is so much talk about Ohtani and Stanton right about now, that there is not much buzz about changes to teams and the game of baseball itself.  Rob Manfred is intent on speeding up play and will implement a pitch clock, likely as soon as 2018 but there will be other changes as well… maybe not all next season, but they are coming.

  • Designated Hitter in the NL – In the NBA, NHL and NFL there are not different rules for each conference.   Baseball is the only sport that does that.  It’s silly that there is a DH in the AL but not the NL.  Some would like to eliminate the DH period.  It ain’t happening.  The DH is coming to the NL!  Probably not next season, but it’s coming… like it or not.
  • Expanded Rosters – Maybe up to 27 players, especially if they expand the use of the DH. Maybe there are two DH’s per team and maybe they can each bat 3 times a game without having to take who they hit for out of the game.  Think about it….
  • Limit Pitching Changes – Unless he is injured, a pitcher has to complete an inning and if a new pitcher comes in, he has to get three outs – no mid-inning pitching changes.
  • Expansion – Manfred wants to have 32 teams, but first they have to fix Oakland and Tampa Bay, which means helping them get new stadiums or letting them move. Here’s a list of America’s TOP 50 cities ranked by population.  The cities in RED already have a team (I counted Dallas, Ft. Worth and Arlington as one market).  Cleveland is #51 and they have a team. St. Louis is #61 and St. Paul is 64 to go with Minneapolis at #46.  Cities like San Antonio, Austin, Jacksonville, Indianapolis, Columbus and Charlotte have to be given some consideration.
2016 City 2016
rank estimate
1 New York 8,537,673
2 Los Angeles 3,976,322
3 Chicago 2,704,958
4 Houston 2,303,482
5 Phoenix 1,615,017
6 Philadelphia 1,567,872
7 San Antonio 1,492,510
8 San Diego 1,406,630
9 Dallas 1,317,929
10 San Jose 1,025,350
11 Austin 947,890
12 Jacksonville 880,619
13 San Francisco 870,887
14 Columbus 860,090
15 Indianapolis 855,164
16 Fort Worth 854,113
17 Charlotte 842,051
18 Seattle 704,352
19 Denver 693,060
20 El Paso 683,080
21 Washington 681,170
22 Boston 673,184
23 Detroit 672,795
24 Nashville 660,388
25 Memphis 652,717
26 Portland 639,863
27 Oklahoma City 638,367
28 Las Vegas 632,912
29 Louisville 616,261
30 Baltimore 614,664
31 Milwaukee 595,047
32 Albuquerque 559,277
33 Tucson 530,706
34 Fresno 522,053
35 Sacramento 495,234
36 Mesa 484,587
37 Kansas City 481,420
38 Atlanta 472,522
39 Long Beach 470,130
40 Colorado Springs 465,101
41 Raleigh 458,880
42 Miami 453,579
43 Virginia Beach 452,602
44 Omaha 446,970
45 Oakland 420,005
46 Minneapolis 413,651
47 Tulsa 403,090
48 Arlington 392,772
49 New Orleans 391,495
50 Wichita 389,902

Of course, I am biased toward Indianapolis, but in the past, MLB has felt that Indy was too close to Chicago and Cincinnati as each of those cities are approximately 2 hours away. Indy has been the home of the Indianapolis Indians, one of the most (if not the most) successful AAA franchises for over 50 years. I think Indy would support a MLB team.  It should at least be considered.

What do you think about changes in baseball and expansion?

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  1. Mushers PopDecember 7, 2017

    Dee Gorden reportedly traded to the Mariners.

  2. BumsrapDecember 7, 2017

    Add MLB baseball to Portland and Las Vegas (I would like that) and realign teams both at division level and league level. Reduce games played from 162 to 154. Reduce travel miles. Complete the WS in October. Put teams located in western half of US in the NL and eastern half teams in AL.

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    Definitely electronically called strikes and DH in both leagues. Reduce time between innings and pitcher substitutions. Max number of pitchers in a game limited to 4 . Stop reviewing plays where a player might have come off the bag for a half a second.

  3. AlwaysCompeteDecember 7, 2017

    While the Stanton/Ohtani saga continues, the Chicago Cubs signed Tyler Chatwood to be their #4 at 3 years $38M. I think this will turn out to be very good for the Cubs. Chatwood improves the team over John Lackey. Since returning from his second TJ surgery, his metrics away from Coors are significantly better than they were at Coors. For the last two years – Home – 6.07 ERA and 21 HRs; Away – 2.57 ERA and 14 HR’s. With the Cubs, the most he will have to pitch in Colorado will be one game per regular season. The Cubs could look ahead and move the rotation around so he may not have to pitch the 1 game. Chatwood turns 28 next week.

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    They still need to replace Arrieta, but with Lester (35), Hendricks (28), Quintana (29), and Chatwood (28), that could be a formidable #1 – #4 if they do not do anything else. They will find a #5, but they still have very little else to fall back on. They do not have anyone in their farm that is ready to make the jump. They always have Montgomery to fall back on.

  4. Mushers PopDecember 7, 2017

    Chris Camello is reporting that the Dodgers are in discussion with the Marlins about Staton.

  5. baseball1439December 7, 2017

    I would think Mexico City and Montreal would be the two cities MLB would like to see awarded franchises.

  6. Vegas DodgerDecember 7, 2017

    The expansion Las Vegas Knights (hockey) are averaging 17,833 per game in attendance, 99% of capacity. They are supported by the corporate community (casinos) who buy luxury suites for their high rollers and VIPs. The AT&T Arena was privately funded by MGM resorts and sits on their property. It will also work perfectly for basketball.

    The new Raiders Stadium had $750 out of $1.9 B publicly funded but it comes from the room tax fund that also paid for the LVCC (Convention Center) expansion and even a freeway improvement project getting cars into and out of the strip corridor off I-15 Fwy from the south (LA) UNLV football will also share the stadium and it will get a major bowl game each year. It is being built on land behind Mandalay Bay owned by MGM that has Fwy offramps on both sides.

    A new domed stadium for baseball would need to be built, similar to Chase Field in Phoenix. The advantage baseball has is the 81 regular season home games per year instead of 8 for pro football and 6 for college; 41 for the NBA and 38 for hockey. The funding formula used for the Raiders would work for a baseball stadium, casinos are on board, which means the state is on board (gaming taxes, property taxes and sales taxes from resorts account for more than 50% of the state’s budget) I believe it is just a matter of time before Las Vegas has every major sport like Phoenix does. Phoenix is a much bigger market at #5 but does not have the advantage of tourist visits and corporate sponsorship that Las Vegas enjoys or the huge room tax fund. The facilities are also being built close to the strip corridor benefiting both local and tourist access.

  7. BlutoDecember 7, 2017

    An interesting impact on expansion will be by the pushback against publicly funded stadia.

  8. HawkeyeDodgerDecember 7, 2017

    1. Fix September rules

    2. One foot in batters box

    3 no pitch clock-fine repeat offenders

    4. Goodbye to God Bless America

    5. Less commercials between innings once game goes to extra inning. Sponsors have gotten their money’s worth.

    6. AUTOMTED STRIKE ZONE!!!!!

    Expansion will increase offense like it always has in the past.

  9. HawkeyeDodgerDecember 7, 2017

    Screw the DH! I could make 5 or 6 suggestions that would help pace of play without screwing with the game. Their proposals will do nothing to increase viewership of baseball just diminish how much real baseball fans enjoy the game. I’m all for Montreal getting the Expos back.

    Now, to the real subject. Chris Camello tweeted out that the Dodgers were pushing hard for Stanton now. Trade not imminent but due to how complicated a deal would be due to contracts and players but the Dodgers are in. Camello broke JT’s and Kenley’s signings almost down to the $ about 24 hrs before the talking heads like Rosenthal.

  10. dodgerrickDecember 7, 2017

    No to the DH!

    I can’t see baseball limiting the number of pitchers who pitch in an inning but can see baseball requiring that a pitcher who has been announced must pitch to at least one batter and that a hitter who has been announced must hit.

    With the expanded use of bullpens, I can see the rosters expanding.

    I can also see a limit on visits to the mound by a catcher or other player.

    Oakland has never really supported the A’s. I can see San Jose (maybe baseball forces the issue), Portland, Las Vegas. I live in the Sacramento area – we have an SMSA population of about 2.5 million, but I don’t think that Sac can support an MLB team.

    As to expansion, there are too many “small market teams” who have trouble scraping together payroll – really Miami wants a payroll of $90 MM? That’s a wealthy city. Who needs another small town team that will have trouble competing?

  11. Vegas DodgerDecember 7, 2017

    Population is a tricky thing, Las Vegas is ranked 28th above but that is not including the cities of North Las Vegas and Henderson which are contiguous. Clark County’s metro population is 2.17 million. The city also averages over 3 million tourist visits per month: what better city to take a road trip to see your team? San Diego is ranked at 8th and has always struggled with attendance. San Jose is ranked ahead of both SF and Oakland, maybe that is a good destination for the A’s.

    Purists hate the DH but younger fans love it, who wants to see pitchers hit? It has increased offense, prolonged careers and lets starters pitch deeper. My main problem is different rules for each league and since it’s staying it should be the same in both leagues. I am also not a fan of the double switch.

    Any restriction on relief pitchers should be batters faced, not outs. What if a guy can’t get anyone out and can’t be pulled? Have them face at least 2 or maybe 3 batters. Nothing is worse or takes longer than seeing 3 or more pitching changes in 1 inning.

    I am all for a pitch clock but also a batter clock. I am really tired of batters backing out and going through their rituals. Time to limit mound visits by catchers too, it was out of control by the Cubs and Astros in the post season. I have been to minor league games and it works well and improves the flow of the game.

  12. AlwaysCompeteDecember 7, 2017

    1. I agree that the DH is coming to the NL. I am generally a baseball purist, but I am also a realist and understand that the DH is not going away. I also agree that both leagues need to play under the same rules. I cannot see it happening before a new CBA, but who knows for sure.

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    2. The MLB Union will be pushing for expanded rosters, and will probably make this a key negotiation point in the next CBA. This is where the owners are going to have to be negotiating amongst themselves as the large market teams would have no problem with expansion, but the small market teams do not want another 2 players even at MLB minimum salaries. If you make the change, make it two players. Most teams would love to have a 3rd catcher at the end of the bench, and an additional pitcher for the games ever expanding use of specialists.

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    3. The only pitching visit limitation I can see in the foreseeable future is to limit the number of trips from the catcher to the mound. The number of trips McCann made to the mound in the WS was ridiculous. With the ever increasing use of pitching specialists, I cannot see the owners agreeing to make no mid inning pitching changes. And with the expected roster expansions in the pitching ranks, this will become even less likely. I can see a limit to the number of warmup pitches to 5 for incoming pitchers.

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    4. At an estimated 2.8 million, Toronto would slide into the number three slot behind Los Angeles. Pittsburgh is right at the St. Paul population, and Cincinnati is even less. Since Cincinnati has supported a professional baseball team since 1869, I think they have proven they will support a MLB team. St. Louis and Pittsburgh both have long standing support (from 1870’s).

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    Tampa has to move. They cannot support a ML team. I do not know why they keep fighting it. Tampa/St. Pete, Clearwater, and Bradenton are within a stone’s throw and they have successful Single A franchises which is what the population will support. The Florida State League is a good league and has good organizations. They are also the home to multiple spring training teams. Tampa/St. Pete has always been a Yankee town so it is hard for the Rays to gain a foothold.

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    Oakland plays in a horrible stadium surrounded by nothingness. They had a new site set up near Laney College in the East Bay where they hoped to open a 35,000 seat stadium in 2023. Unfortunately this plan, which was early in the design stages, was just shot down by the Peralta Community College District after strong opposition from the faculty and student body. There is no Plan B. There were rumors moving to San Jose (SF Giants said no), and to Fremont which has a ton of environmental issues and just was not a plausible location. IMO the only successful location anywhere in Oakland would be Jack London Square, on the Oakland waterfront with lots of restaurants, hotels, and SF Ferry. Any other choice outside of reincarnating Charles Finley, Oakland will continue to flounder.

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    I would not mind seeing the A’s come to Sacramento. I do not know if Sacramento would support a MLB team, but they have supported the River Cats, and very much supported them when they were the A’s AAA affiliate. But Sacramento is very much a Giants town, so an exodus from Northern California seems to be their best option. Their AAA team is now in Nashville, so maybe that is an option.

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    Other locations that will be considered are:

    Mexico City (MLB will want this to work)

    Montreal (They want this to work as well)

    San Antonio

    Charlotte

    Las Vegas

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    I will leave the capability of Indianapolis to Mark and Hawkeye. I do not know the Midwest very well.

  13. CampyDecember 7, 2017

    While I am on a roll— Mark, the population chart that you included in your post distorts the actual situation. It only takes into account the population of the city itself and ignores the surrounding municipalities. For example: compare SF and Indy which are listed as having almost the same population, both in the 800,000 range. Actually, the Giants have a much larger population to draw from than does Indy. Some of those cities have a large metro population and others do not, so to get an accurate picture of the ability to support a baseball team they would have to list the population of the greater metro areas instead of the population of the city itself.

  14. CampyDecember 7, 2017

    I have long felt that they should change the way they determine wins and losses for pitchers. Whoever gives up the loosing run should get the loss. For example: a starting pitcher gives up two runs and is taken out in the 7th trailing 2-0. The relief pitcher gives up 3 in the top of the 8th, making it 5-0. The home team scores 4 in the bottom of the 8th, but they lose 5-4. The loss should go to the relief pitcher who gave up the 3 runs in one inning rather than the starting pitcher who gave up 2 runs in 7 innings.

  15. Koufax 32December 7, 2017

    A certain way to speed up and shorten the game. Not that I want that, but here’s a suggestion.

    When a runner comes into the game to pitch run, he doesn’t get to run down to second base to warm up. When a fielding change is made for defensive purposes, he doesn’t get a few fly balls or grounders hit to him before the game resumes. When a pitch hitter comes up, he doesn’t get a few pitches thrown to him to warm up. So, why does a relief pitcher get a certain amount of pitches to warm up, especially since he already did so in the bullpen?

    Make the warm up mound in the bullpen exactly the same as the one on the field. When the relief pitcher comes he ‘s ready to go and maybe gets one warm up pitch. Because of so many pitching changes and the fact that they are trying to speed up the game and make them shorter, this would certainly do both. Much more than the automatic walk.

    Just my idea. I love the game the way it is and hope the DH never happens in the National League.

  16. Peter JDecember 7, 2017

    Is a team in Mexico now a dead issue???

    In between post op meds, I’ve been catching on the last couple weeks of M.T. & A.C.’s posts and all I can say is great work.

    Woulda, coulda, shouda with be our mantra till ST…

  17. DodgerfanDecember 7, 2017

    I agree with changes have to be made for instance pitchers starting pitchers goes 8 innings in a 0-0 tie a relief pitcher comes in the team scores one run the reliever gets the win the picture received nothing only Innings pitched. It should be the starting pitcher gets the win the relief pitcher gets the save what do you think about this

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