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There Will Be Baseball in Ogden

First, a look back at baseball in Ogden which has maintained a small town atmosphere. The Ogden Raptors are the Dodgers’ Rookie League team in the Pioneer league. The Raptors are an advanced rookie team that became affiliated with the Dodgers in 2003. Prior to that, the Ogden team was an affiliate of the Milwaukee Brewers. Ogden, with a population of about 83,000, claims to be the oldest settlement in

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First, a look back at baseball in Ogden which has maintained a small town atmosphere.

The Ogden Raptors are the Dodgers’ Rookie League team in the Pioneer league. The Raptors are an advanced rookie team that became affiliated with the Dodgers in 2003. Prior to that, the Ogden team was an affiliate of the Milwaukee Brewers.

Ogden, with a population of about 83,000, claims to be the oldest settlement in Utah dating back to 1845 and has a long history with minor league baseball of over 100 years.

The Raptors are blessed to play in one of the most beautiful settings in professional baseball. In fact, Lindquist Field, which was built in the heart of downtown Ogden in 1997, was named the “Best View” by Baseballparks.com – not just in the Pioneer League but in all of Baseball. Digitalballparks.com gave Lindquist Field the same honor and also awarded it the 2007 Ballpark of the Year. Not alone in their assessment, a staff writer for Grand Slam Enterprises, Inc. also named the view beyond the fence as the best in professional baseball. The outfield fences are set against a breathtaking panoramic view the Wasatch Mountains, which majestically stand at 9,000 feet above sea level.

The Raptors have led the Pioneer League in attendance every year since 1997 and did so again in 2019 with an average attendance of 3,951. The continued yearly attendance is due to the historically strong fan base and is buoyed by the ownership’s efforts to thank the fans in a variety of creative ways. Since 1997 upwards of one million free general admission tickets have been given away at local restaurants, thus supporting the team and the restaurant industry.

 “There’s a million of them (tickets),” said Raptors president and general manager Dave Baggott. “That’s a lot of them. It’s an unprecedented program. No one has ever done it. I challenge any other company to donate $5 million (worth of product) to their communities.”

Baggott made another strong commitment to the fans way back in 2013.

We want to celebrate the history of baseball in Ogden, and there is quite a history here,” Baggott said. “Our goal for our 20th year is to increase that fan experience and thank our fans for the support they’ve always given us.”

Two events of note were part of the 2013 Ogden Raptors promotions. One was to honor and recognize the Dodgers’ first stint in Ogden, then called the Ogden Dodgers. The Raptors had a poster giveaway night to honor members of the 1968 Ogden Dodgers team that included Steve Garvey, Bobby Valentine, Bill Buckner and manager Tommy Lasorda, who were part of a run that saw Ogden sweep four consecutive Pioneer League championships. Tommy won three of those championships with the Raptors from 1966-68 and 14 of the players he managed in Ogden went on to play at the MLB level. In 2009 his Ogden jersey, number 4, was retired, and Ogden Mayor Matthew Godfrey proclaimed July 10, 2009 “Tommy Lasorda Day” in the city.

The second event is a bit off topic but demonstrates the family-like atmosphere of baseball in Ogden. The Raptors honored Robbie Parker, who more than a decade ago served for three seasons as “Oggie,” the Raptors’ lovable dinosaur mascot. Perhaps it was not so much to honor Robbie but to help him and his family through a very trying time. Our hearts all broke with the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, none more so than that of Robbie Parker and his family.

A decade ago Robbie Parker in his worst nightmare could not have ever dreamed of the horrific tragedy that his family would have to endure. On that fateful day last December, Robbie, his wife Alissa and their two other little girls would lose their adorable daughter and sister, 6-year-old Emilie, forever. On July 20, the Raptors remembered and honored Emilie and the Parker family by holding a special night in her memory.

“Our players are going to wear pink jerseys, her favorite color, with her name on the backs of their jerseys,” said Baggott. “We’ll auction those jerseys off for $500 each, and all the proceeds will go to the Emilie Parker Fund. We want to pay tribute to a fallen child who did not get a chance at life. This will help raise money for their other two daughters and allow their family to come out and enjoy a night of baseball with us and our great fans. It’s our small way of trying to help them overcome a terrible, devastating tragedy.”

https://www.ksl.com/article/26077647/raptors-honor-emilie-parker-raise-money-for-foundation

Most of the Raptor players don’t live in apartments, hotels or dorms but instead live with a ‘Host Family.’ They move in with a local family while they play for the team. Each player, often more than one per host family, has a home away from home. The host family program gives the young players a stable environment in which they have the security of surrogate parents, eat well, get proper rest and share in household duties. I can picture a host Mom watching over a professional baseball player, seeing the needs of the young man, not the player. One can only imagine the lifetime bonds that develop among the players and their host families with whom they share their successes and more importantly the times when they do not succeed.

The Ogden Raptors do not play in a small town as I remember a small town. The Liverpool Larrupers did play in a small town of about 2,500 people in Nova Scotia, Canada in the 1950’s, a time when young players, mostly from New England, lived with host families. Ogden, with a population of around 83,000, is more of a small city than a small town, yet team management and the people of Ogden have managed to maintain that small town baseball atmosphere that I remember so well. Dave Baggott, twenty-seven years as president and general manager of the team, seems to have a different philosophy regarding the fans that support the team. It isn’t ‘how can I get you into the stadium,’ but rather ‘what can I do for you once you have paid your $9.00 general admission and entered the stadium?’

This is how baseball is supposed to be or how it was in Ogden. The Raptors are an integral part of Ogden and Dave Baggott intends to keep it that way. MLB announced last November that part of a plan to streamline minor league baseball included eliminating 42 minor league teams. The plan would eliminate the rookie level Pioneer League in which the Raptors play.

This brings us back to Dave Baggott who instantly spoke out against the plan.

Baggott said in December 2019 that the idea of increased costs and poor facilities is a “made-up excuse” and said “they would rather disconnect grassroots baseball from millions of Major League Baseball fans so they can save approximately $600,000 per team.”

A congressional bipartisan committee was set up December to go to bat for minor league ball.

Reps. Lori Trahan, D-Mass., David McKinley, R-W.Va., Max Rose, D-N.Y., and Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, announced the formation of the Save Minor League Baseball Task Force, saying they will advocate for communities that stand to be most harmed by the proposal. The lawmakers said they would monitor ongoing negotiations between major and minor league baseball as well as discuss potential legislation if and when it becomes necessary.

Raptors President Dave Baggott was among Minor League Baseball officials and team owners who talked strategy with the task force in Washington. Baggott said in places like Montana and Utah, local minor league teams are fans’ only connection to major league baseball.

“To cut that off at the knees and immediately alienate millions of baseball fans around the country, just doesn’t make any sense to me,” he said. “I just don’t think baseball’s that stupid.”

Baggott said negotiations between major league and minor league officials are still in early stages and nothing has been finalized and might not be for some time. He said he fully intends to have baseball in Ogden next year and beyond.

https://www.standard.net/sports/ogden-raptors/ogden-raptors-team-president-punches-back-against-insanity-of-minor-league-contraction-proposal/article_7aef1eb5-efed-55f1-915a-cdbb923f48a9.html

“We just finished our 26th year in Ogden and I want to have another 26, but I want there to be value in our franchise,” he said. “I want our public, our fan base to confidently know that we intend on going nowhere.”

If the “insanity” plays out as proposed, Baggott said that, aside from lawsuits filed by all 42 teams and their municipalities, the Raptors will play professional baseball at Lindquist Field in 2021 and beyond, whether as an independent team or “affiliated like we all want.”

The Raptors said in a Facebook post: 

“We all know MiLB is affordable baseball that allows everyone, not just folks in big cities, to experience everything weird and/or wonderful about this great sport.”

That’s the way it should be.

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  1. dodgerrickSeptember 15, 2020

    Kershaw a warrior. The ‘pen let him down tonight. The offense stinks. It mostly has for several weeks.

    It’s easy to say that it’s on the players to execute, but it’s up to the manager to pull the right levers to put the players in the best possible position to do so. Baez just came off of the DL – he had only pitched 1 inning before bringing him into the highest possible leverage situation. I would say that Roberts didn’t put Baez in the best position for success under the circumstance.

  2. CassidySeptember 15, 2020

    This is the Dodger offense against playoff pitching! Ouch!

  3. Mark TimmonsSeptember 15, 2020

    The next pitch Clayton threw would have been #100.

    Roberts made a decision.

    Baez did not pitch badly – he had no defense.

    It’s not always someone fault!

    Like the old Eagles song:

    I turn on the tube and what do I see?

    A whole lot of people crying, “Don’t blame me”

    They point their crooked little fingers at everybody else

    Spend all their time feeling sorry for themselves

    Victim of this, victim of that

    Your mamma’s too thin, your daddy’s too fat

    [Chorus]

    Get over it

    Get over it

    All this whining and crying and pitching a fit

    Get over it, get over it

    [Verse 2]

    You say you haven’t been the same since you had your little crash

    But you might feel better if I gave you some cash

    The more I think about it, Old Billy was right

    Let’s kill all the lawyers, kill them tonight

    You don’t want to work, you want to live like a king

    But the big, bad world doesn’t owe you a thing

    [Chorus]

    Get over it

    Get over it

    If you don’t wanna, you might as well quit

    Get over it, get over it

    [Bridge]

    It’s like going to confession every time I hear you speak

    You’re making the most of your losing streak

    Some call it sick, but I call it weak

    Yeah, yeah, yeah

    [Verse 3]

    Yeah, you drag it around like a ball and chain

    You wallow in the guilt, you wallow in the pain

    You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown

    Got your mind in the gutter, bringing everybody down

    You bitch about the present and blame it on the past

    I’d like to find your inner child and kick its little ass

    [Chorus]

    Get over it

    Get over it

    All this bitching and moaning and pitching a fit

    Get over it, get over it

    [Chorus]

    Get over it

    Get over it

    It’s gotta stop sometime, so why don’t you quit?

    Get over it, get over it

  4. JeffSeptember 15, 2020

    Dodgers folding like a deck of cards. 4 players under the Mendoza started. This was an important game and will certainly be a statement game by SD who look like the best team in the West.

  5. steviedSeptember 15, 2020

    the Dodgers were the best team in baseball for the first 40 games of the season. Now they’re not. Same players, different results. Question is: which Dodger team will show up in the playoffs? Past post-season results doesn’t give me a lot of comfort. But hope springs eternal…

  6. Michael Norris (AKA Bear)September 15, 2020

    Well at least that is over. Couple of things, Bellinger has moved back off of the plate a little. He was getting around better on the inside pitch. 14 K’s, 2 extra base hits, one a blooper. 1 very crucial error that allowed the game to get out of reach. Middle of the lineup had 10 of the 14 strikeouts. Rios and Pederson struck out 3 times apiece. I like Edwin’s power, but he has a huge K rate. They left double figure men on base again. And they have lost 5 of their last 10, and SD has ripped off 8 straight wins. Like they say, it is how you finish that counts. And SD at this point is playing better baseball. 12 left. Time to step on the gas. They get Turner back, but they need something positive out of Pederson, Muncy and Bellinger. Muncy had a hit and a walk, but also struck out twice. His continued lack of production is hurting this team, and it is really too late in the season to see what guys like Raley and McKinstry could bring to the table. Pederson, as Badger said, looks totally disengaged at this point. And other than his double last night against the Stros, he is not making solid contact. Two of the best hitters on the team spend the entire game on the bench. And Joe said something during the broadcast that struck a chord. If the Dodgers are so analytics driven, how could they not know that Lamet has worse stats against RH hitters? He has reverse splits. Righty’s hit him better than lefty’s. I know Pederson had good numbers against him coming in, but the way he has been hitting this year, you can throw all that stuff out of the window. Very disappointing game. They have to play better. And whether anyone believes it or not, the really need to win these next two games. And Davies has owned them.

  7. Michael Norris (AKA Bear)September 15, 2020

    Gonsolin tomorrow, and May on Wednesday.

  8. BadgerSeptember 15, 2020

    A lot of things went wrong tonight, beginning with that bizarre lineup. Sounded like most of us had a problem with that. Pull Kershaw, leave him in, I don’t know. I doubt it would have mattered. We only scored 2 and we gave them 2 unearned. Play like that and you deserve to lose.

    The team isn’t playing well. That’s obvious. The Padres are playing well. It’s quite possible they will continue to play well. They’re a good team.

    The fact is we are not good defensively. Our pen looks like it’s suffering from overuse. I’m not saying I believe that, I’m just saying they look like it. It would appear we have one starter that can go 6+ so we are going to need that pen. Pederson, Bellinger and Muncy look like crap and I don’t know that won’t continue. Lux and Rios are looking like disappointments.

    Put it all in the rear view and move on.

    The team has a few series’ left to get it together. It starts tomorrow. Take the next 2 then go pound Colorado. Next at bat, next pitch.

  9. WilliamSeptember 15, 2020

    if the Dodgers do not win a title this year, it will not be because Roberts took Kershaw out, though I do not think that Roberts is very good game manager. It will be because the Dodgers did their usual thing at the trade deadline, which is nothing. Yes, occasionally they have done something, Machado being their big short-term pickup. But usually at the trade deadline, they do not want to pick up a contract longer than half a season, or to give up much in the way of minor league talent. So they essentially let the Padres pick up by far the best pitcher available, and also a reliever who was once one of the best, and is regaining form. So now it looks like the Padres are better, not just this year, but for the next few years. We will see, of course, but it seems like they will be. In some sense, Roberts is a red herring, as the real problem is an ownership which always stops short of making the late season deal which would solidify us not just for the playoffs, but for the next season, too.

  10. Michael Norris (AKA Bear)September 15, 2020

    I am with Badger, They need to put this one in the rear view mirror, and move on. But I also think that Roberts needs to just put the 8 best men on the field and forget the analytics. And that would not include Muncy and Joc. Muncy is just not one of the best on the team right now, and he has made critical errors both mental and physical that have cost the team runs, and eventually wins. 5-5 while SD is 9-1 is not going to get it done. I am all for calling McKinstry and maybe even Peters up and giving them a shot for a few days. A little youthful exuberance might be nice. I mean Lux does not look too excited at all.

  11. Mark TimmonsSeptember 15, 2020

    My point is that no matter what Doc did it would have been wrong because that is the narrative many of you adopt. If Kershaw stayed in and gave up a 3-Run HR, I have no doubt that you would have said “Doc should have taken him out.” I have seen and heard it too many times. I know how they work. Yes, Bear – they can have their opinions, but I am just calling BS. It’s pure second-guessing because, in their opinion, Doc is the problem… and maybe he is, but using that way of thinking ALWAYS puts it on Doc… no matter what!

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