The Manager and Trades
The Manager s Role Let me start this off by saying that anyone who doesn t believe that All of us are smarter than any one of us probably is not a coach, manager, scout or part of the Dodger brain-trust! Some fans think that the Dodgers front office makes out the lineups and that Andrew Friedman is this control freak. Nothing could be further from the truth. Dave Roberts is the

The Manager’s Role
Let me start this off by saying that anyone who doesn’t believe that “All of us are smarter than any one of us” probably is not a coach, manager, scout or part of the Dodger brain-trust! Some fans think that the Dodgers front office makes out the lineups and that Andrew Friedman is this “control freak.” Nothing could be further from the truth. Dave Roberts is the manager and it is his duty to make out the lineups… and he does just that. However, it is not without input in the form of “data” from the front office.
The role of the baseball manager has evolved into something different than it was 10 years ago… maybe even 5 years ago as analytics have taken the spotlight. The front office and the manager and coaches have regular meetings to help Doc make better decisions what lineups to use and where players can best succeed. These are “brainstorming sessions” that are backed with a plethora of data.
We often say something like this: “Why is Roberts having that LH batter hit against a RH pitcher when he has reverse splits?” That’s the data we have in our “pea brains” and on its face, it makes no sense. However, I guarantee that the data Doc has tells us where a pitcher is most likely to throw a certain pitch and the hitters’ ability to hit a certain pitch in a certain zone.
The hitting coaches and pitching coaches meet with the analytics people daily to formulate game plans, so that when Kike Hernandez comes in to pinch hit against a RHP, you can bet your sweet bippy that the data causes the coaches to believe that Kike can handle certain pitches in certain zones and that the pitcher is likely to deliver a pitch in that zone. In fact, they may go as far as to say “Until you get two strikes, only look for a pitch in Zone 2. Don’t swing at anything else.”
Gone are the days when a manager manages with his gut: “I just had a gut feeling he was going to get a hit,” although that can always come into play once in a while. Baseballs most successful managers in terms of winning percentage: Aaron Boone, Alex Cora, AJ Hinch, Joe Maddon, and Dave Roberts are all data managers. They have access to so much more data than we do and the front office and analytics staff help them decipher what it all means. However, when it comes right down to it, they all make out their own lineups, unless you are Mickey Callaway who works for that control freak Brodie Van Wagenen, who has been known to call the dugout and tell Callaway what to do. Geeeezzzz!
Dave Roberts is not perfect and fans like to blame the manager when things go wrong, but “it’s the players” when things go right. Dave Roberts does an excellent job of managing the clubhouse and many people believe that the tight-knit clubhouse is a collaboration of the front office and the manager and coaches. Moody, selfish players are persona non grata. Dave Roberts sets the tone for that as he is in the process of managing his third team in a row into the World Series. That would indeed be a feat that no other Dodger manager has accomplished. Of course, Andrew Friedman and Company have given him the horses to get there, haven’t they? It is a collaboration… just like the lineups are a collaboration.
A Seller’s Market
Baseball is evolving in many ways. One of those ways is how teams value older and younger players. The MLBPA is upset with the current state of free agency. They feel that players are not getting the big contracts that they deserve… and that is going to be a huge point of contention in the next Collective Bargaining Agreement. The simple fact of the matter is that most GM’s have finally figured out that huge deals to aging players seldom work out.
I believe that even the contracts to Manny Machado and Bryce Harper were “dope-fiend moves” that will haunt those teams for years. Conversely, the value of prospects, TOP PROSPECTS have soared. I was going to write about what is likely to happen, but Ken Gurnick of Dodgers.com beat me to the punch and said it better than I could:
With the best record in baseball at the break, the Dodgers are on a breakaway for their seventh consecutive National League West title and it’s hard to envision they need to make any changes to win it.
What happens once they reach the postseason, as they’ve shown the past six years, is an entirely different subject. The bullpen has been the most obvious vulnerability this year, but finding an impactful upgrade will be a real challenge because the supply/demand equation favors the sellers and the pool of players available is possibly smaller than ever.
And this year for the Dodgers in particular, the specter of the Yordan Alvarez trade for Josh Fields is the elephant in the ballpark. You never know when the teenager nobody’s ever heard of turns into the next David Ortiz … but you traded him for a reliever you released.Current status: buyer
The Dodgers are buyers because they’re always buyers, but that doesn’t mean they’re spenders. They usually pass on the biggest names available when they are the most expensive names available, with Manny Machado last summer being the biggest exception. But the Dodgers lead the league in creativity, so you never really know what they’re up to.What they are seeking
Sure, they’d like Will Smith-the-reliever, Brad Hand, etc. About 23 teams do. But this management team does not trade away its top prospects. If it did, Julio Urias, Corey Seager, Cody Bellinger, Walker Buehler or Will Smith-the-catcher would have been dealt for a quick fix during a previous Trade Deadline. They won’t knowingly overpay, and with so many teams in the Wild Card race and the jobs of general managers riding in the balance, somebody else will overpay. So the Dodgers are more likely to settle for a Tony Watson-type bullpen arm.What they have to offer
This is another reason why the Dodgers are not likely to pull down a marquee name. Most of their prospects are on the young side and most teams willing to trade a marquee name want MLB-ready talent in return. Keibert Ruiz, Gavin Lux, Dustin May and Smith are the Dodgers’ top four prospects, the kind that can land a marquee name, the kind this management doesn’t trade.While a veteran like Joc Pederson appears expendable with the return of outfielder A.J. Pollock, another trait of this management team is to not trade away players off the roster that have been first-half contributors, preferring to package Minor Leaguers instead, like last year’s 5-for-1 Machado deal.
Possible scenario
A best-case-scenario might be Detroit right-hander Shane Greene in a deal for a pair of prospects not named Ruiz/Lux/May/Smith. Maybe they’ll acquire a starter to turn into a reliever, or one that would allow for turning Kenta Maeda into a reliever. Or maybe they’ll go back in time and reacquire Watson of the Giants or Daniel Hudson of the Blue Jays. The Dodgers acquired both before and they play for two of the few teams out of the race so they should come relatively cheaply.
I believe that Hudson and Watson are the best possibilities… all things considered. Vasquez would be awesome, but I do not believe Friedman will trade a TOP 5 prospect.
At any rate, AJ Pollock, Corey Seager, and David Freese will be back and playing tonight at a ballpark in Boston. Let the second half begin.
DC’s Minor League Lowdown
DSL Dodgers (Bautista) – Rays (1) 0
Two pitchers did all the work in this game. Heisell Baro pitched 5 innings on 2 hits, one walk, and 4 strikeouts. Axel Acevedo pitched a clean 4 innings with 5 strikeouts.
The Dodgers scored 3 in the 2nd on RBI singles by Jose Garcia and Jose Aguilar and a ground out. They scored another run in the 3rd on a single by Harold Restituyo and 2 in the 7th on a sac fly and a wild pitch. Restituyo had 3 hits.
DSL Dodgers (Shoemaker) 1 – DSL Cubs 11
All 4 pitchers gave up runs to the Cubs; Hugo Beltran (5 IP) 2 runs, Eli Moron (3 IP) 4 runs, Raidel Chacon (0.1 IP) 4 runs, Frankelyn Feliz (0.2 IP) 1 run.
The lone run scored in the 4th by Juan Diaz. All 3 Cubs hits came in the 4th inning.
AZL Dodgers Mota and Lasorda were not scheduled
Ogden Raptors 13 – Idaho Falls Chukars (Kansas City) 5
Starter Antonio Hernandez and Nelfri Contreras combined for 6 innings and 5 runs. Melvin Jimenez pitched 2 innings striking out 6 with no hits and a walk. Jeff Belge loaded the bases in the 9th but Ricardo Hernandez came in to get the third out and strand all 3 runners.
The Raptors continued the fireworks beginning with a home run by Brandon Lewis in the 2nd and scoring 6 in the 4th on a Sauryn Lao single, a 2-out Jeremy Arocho 2-run double and an Andy Pages 3-run home run. Sauryn doubled home another run in the 5th while Brandon Lewis doubled home 2 more. Two gift runs came home in the 7th on a ground out and a wild pitch. Tre Todd put the topper on it with a home run in the 9th. Lewis, Ward, Todd, Arocho all had 2 hits.
Great Lakes Loons 3 – Cedar Rapids Kernels (Minnesota)1
Jack Little (5th round -2019) started for the Loons. He was a closer with Stanford in 2018 and 2019. He had his second good start going 3 innings with 2 hits, no walks, and 2 strikeouts. He is on an innings limit of 3 innings or a pitch limit of 45. On Thursday he threw 37 pitches, 26 for strikes. Justin Bruihl pitched a scoreless inning while Jose Chacin finished up with 5 innings in which he gave a solo home run on his first pitch and ended up retiring the last 11 hitters he faced.
The Loons scored 2 in the top of the 7th on a Leonel Valera single driving home Matt Cogen and James Outman. They picked up an insurance run in the top of the 9th on a Chris Roller single, an inning that featured a double steal by the Loons. Roller had 2 hits giving him an 11-game hit streak and a 24-game on-base streak.
Ranch Cucamonga Quakes 8 – San Jose Giants 4
Geraldo Carrillo started with 2 scoreless inning with 3 strikeouts and gave way to Wills Montgomerie who surrendered 4 runs in 5 innings. He did strike out 6. Connor Strain and Darien Nunez finished up with a scoreless inning each.
At the plate the Quakes put up a 3-spot in the 3rd on a Jeren Kendall 2-run double and a Jeter Downs SF. One more came home in the 6th on a bases loaded walk with 3 more in the 7th on a Connor Wong 2-run triple and a Deacon Liput single. Donovan Casey drove home an additional run in the 8th with a single. Liput and Casey had 2 hits each.
Tulsa Drillers 5 – Northwest Arkansas Naturals ( Kansas City) 2
Victor Gonzalez started for the Drillers and left after 1.2 scoreless innings in which he gave up 2 hits and walked one. Logan Bawcom came on to replace Gonzalez and pitched 6.1 innings allowing one run on 6 hits while striking out 6. Jordan Sheffield came on in the 9th and allowed the first 4 hitters he faced to get on base, 2 with walks and 2 hits, with one run scoring. The winning run came to the plate with the bases loaded but he was able to get out of it with a 97 mph fastball and a wicked curve ball.
The Drillers scored one in the 2nd on a Drew Avans single and one in the 5th on an Omar Estevez SF. Cody Thomas made it 3-1 in the 6th with a solo home run. They added 2 more in the 8th on a 2-out double by Drew Avans. Zach McKinstry, batting in the leadoff spot, had his second straight 3-hit game, going 3-5. Avans and Estevez had 2 hits each.
OKC Dodgers 8 – Memphis Redbirds (St. Louis) 6
Dustin May made his first post All-Star start and over 5 innings he gave up 5 hits, 4 runs (3 ER), walked 3 and struck out 3. Shea Spitzbarth, Jaime Schultz and Josh Sborz all contributed a scoreless inning while Justin Grimm gave up 2 runs on 3 hits in his inning. Schultz picked up the win while Sborz collected his second save.
Offensively the Dodgers scored 2 in the top of the first on a Zach Reks single scoring DJ Peters who had doubled and Edwin Rios who had walked. Gavin Lux drove home one in the 2nd with a single. Lux proceeded to bring home 3 more in the 6th with a 2-out 3-run double. Tied at 6 in the top of the 9th, Edwin Rios hit a solo home run and Connor Joe brought in another run with a SF. Besides Lux with his two hits, Kyle Garlick had 2 and DJ Peters had a 3-hit night.
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Discussion (80)
Disagree, not disagreeable
First Doc – He is not the best strategist, nor the worst. He may not be the best communicator to the fans, but he is to the players. I think the one time he did fail was when he took Hill out of the game 4 in last year’s WS. Or did Hill take himself out? We will never know the true answer to that. Mark referenced an Athletic article and I would highly recommend that people read it. There are some discussions with Strip, and even Strip acknowledges that the FO is very much involved. The point is that this FO WANTS to be involved, and they have the best manager on the planet for what they do. Would Doc do better with another club? I don’t know. Would AF have better success with a manager like T Francona or J Maddon? Doubtful. The Dodgers are who they are warts and all. They just happen to be the best 40 man 162 game team in MLB. Is that good enough for the WS? It has not been so far. Maybe this is the year.
I know one of the favorite criticisms of Doc in last year’s WS was batting Kike’ 4th in a must win Game 5. It looks like a moronic move of epic proportions. Unfortunately, there is probably two trees worth of computer printout that indicated why that was a good move. Again, none of us will ever know why Kike’ batted 4th. In a 162 game season, I am all for analytics. But in a 7 game series for all of the marbles, I want to go with my eyes and gut as to what is happening right in front of me. Computer printouts do not measure the look in the eyes, a hint of doubt, or size of the heart. But that is me, and it is not likely what will happen if the Dodgers are fortunate enough to get back to the WS. They will continue to go with what got them there. Hopefully 2019 will have a different outcome.
I think there are three things that everybody thinks they can do better than the folks that actually do it:
1. write a book
2. run a restaurant
3. manage a baseball team
but isn’t that 1/2 the fun of MLB, second guessing the skipper. It’s because we care.
Good write up today Mark on the Manager’s role and how things work. I think one of Doc’s strengths, looking from the outside, is that his players like him; and play for him. I have forever heard (unsuccessful) managers (frequently with the ilk of Larry Bowa or Bobby Valentine) say “I don’t care if the players like me, as long as the respect me”. I think players can do both, with the right guy.
Regarding how “influenced” Doc is by the upstairs folks, better job Mark coving this with a legit answer. “Some fans think that the Dodgers front office makes out the lineups and that Andrew Friedman is this “control freak. Nothing could be further from the truth. Dave Roberts is the manager and it is his duty to make out the lineups…”
This is the type of answer I was seeking a few days ago when I asked this exact question. I was expecting a response like the one today. Instead, I got a Don Rickles, smart** answer to the question (see below) including implants, shock collars and delusions. Thanks for doing better today.
Mark Timmons
July 9, 2019 at 6:54 pm
So PhilJones asked:
So AF and the brass are making the decisions and not Doc? I’ve heard that before but just yesterday that was said to be false. So, which is it. I sometimes struggle to think Roberts would make the decisions that are made. (Like Joc at first, for example). Is Doc a puppet?
Why do you struggle to think Roberts would make the decisions that are made? Is he too smart or too dumb? The team does have the best record in baseball, so most of the decision must have been good.
Yes, Doc is a puppet. AF has a microphone implanted in his ear and he calls every shot. AF also has Roberts outfitted with a shocking dog collar and zaps him if he deviates from what Andrew wants.
Hey, I can be totally delusional too!
AC…Why did they send Matt Beaty back to OKC and not Zac Rosscup for now? In your opinion is Zac the best LH reliever to use?
DJ Peters – power hitting prospect with an attitude the front office loves. His only problem, and it’s a big one, is that he strikes out way too much and has done that for his entire career (Ratio of k/bb is about 3 to 1).
He was moved to OKC recently and in about 60 plate appearances he is now walking at the same rate as he’s striking out. Granted a very small sample size, but if he could maintain this, along with his uptick in hitting results since he got there (.370/.475/.717/1.192), he could be a long term fixture here…………………………………..or a valuable trade piece this month. It’s not all that often that young players improve their numbers dramatically as they get promoted, but Peters seems to be an exception. Let’s hope it lasts.
In the latest FanGraphs podcast, they talk a little about Dodger prospects.
Very high on May.
Think Lux’s throwing issues are legit, and he could end at 2B.
Intimate Ruiz will be moved.
Dodgers are interested in Mathew Boyd, Detroit Tigers lefty and former Oregon State pitcher. Oregon State has a great baseball program and a tandem of Buehler-Vanderbelt / Boyd-Oregon State would have a good pedigree.
Boyd at age 28 seems to have evolved from a #4/5 to a #1/2. Has anybody read where his fastball got faster or he added a pitch, or added command?
If the Dodgers were to add Boyd the rotation might not need Ryu should Ryu want a 3 or 4 year contract or prefer to finish his career in South Korea.
Good write up M.T. – MLB salaries, as I’ve often said, make me spit up a little in the back of my throat…
Here we go again with Doc!!! You may have opened up the proverbial can of worms!!! We all know that at the end of the day Doc goes to his office, plugs into his Vulcan energizer to be ready for the next day… The FO makes all managerial moves from a suite at the ballpark…
I can’t see Harper, but Manny till age 35, I could see as our everyday SS with Seager at 2B…
Last but not least, thanks to A.C. for an epic look at the LAD system yesterday. I run copies of many of the posts by MT, AC and DC for a neighborhood in house rehab I volunteer at… My current group is Dodger strong, with the exception of one Yankee fan…
I think I would like to see some version of WAR be the basis of player salaries.