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Ron Fairly Taught Me

I think it was in 1965 or 1966 that I figured out Ran Fairly was not very good against LHP. I was only 12 years old, but every time a LHP went against the Dodgers, I knew that Ron Fairly (who may have been my favorite Dodger at one time) would not do well. To the best of my…

By Mark Timmons8 min readJump to 76 comments

I think it was in 1965 or 1966 that I figured out Ran Fairly was not very good against LHP. I was only 12 years old, but every time a LHP went against the Dodgers, I knew that Ron Fairly (who may have been my favorite Dodger at one time) would not do well. To the best of my knowledge, platoons were not a thing back then… at least, they were never discussed. Today, they are becoming a big part of the game… and many fans hate it!

I think it was about that time that I really became a fan of the Dodgers and not just one player. I think that is a big difference between myself and many other fans: I do not have one player that I am a fan of. Many of you are fans of a player as much as you are fans of the Dodgers. I enjoy looking at minor-league prospects and their skill set and predicting how they will do. In recent years, I have added analytics to my evaluation process. I read all the Prospect Reports: Keith Law, BA, BP, Fangraphs, and others. I also have a network of friends who have been in an around baseball for many years and I talk with them.

Then, I draw my own conclusions. I am not always right, but over the past 20 years, I have predicted great things for Clayton Kershaw (I saw one of his first A-League Games and knew he was special), Matt Kemp, Cody Bellinger, Corey Seager, Alex Verdugo (he has not yet achieved what I think), Keibert Ruiz (he is still developing), Walker Buehler, and many others. I did miss big time on Andy LaRoche (I was way off). I did not like Jeren Kendall, Zach Lee, Gavin Lux. or Grant Holmes as picks. I never thought Lux could play SS, but he has become a better hitter than I thought. However, I still do not think he can play SS.

The point of all of this is that no one gets it right all the time. If someone tells me that they “Knew Will Smith” would be what he is, I guarantee that if you gave them an enema, you could bury them in a shoebox. Will Smith was athletic and a good defensive catcher, but no one thought he would be a good hitter (NO ONE). BA said this about him in 2017:

At the plate Smith showed strong strike-zone awareness and sneaky pop, but overall grades as a fringe-average hitter due to his lack of natural hitting instincts and inconsistent feel for the barrel. Still, evaluators believe he will hit just enough to be an everyday catcher.

–Baseball America

Well, he certainly surpassed that. No one saw that coming, except maybe someone in a mental institution. Ron Fairly taught me not to have a favorite player when I have a favorite team. The reason is that I want the team to win every game, and to do that, you have to put players in their best position for the team to win. That sometimes means platooning. Yesterday, someone was questioning why platoon someone who has a good OB% but little power. I’ll get to that soon and deliver an education on OB% vs. OPS – there is a huge difference.

At any rate, where I am going with this is that there are certain players who have unusual skills which your eyes can see and statistics back up. Miguel Vargas is one of those players, and it is beyond moronic and childish that some of you are so determined to prove that I do not know anything about Miguel Vargas. Some of it falls upon the illusion that liking a player is tantamount to talent evaluation. You can like James Outman all you want. I love his story. I love his athleticism, his never-say-die attitude, his hustle, and his willingness to change. If he is your favorite player, so be it. I do not say he needs to be platooned – I say that because it’s what I see. Can he evolve even more and hit LHP? Sure, and I would give him that opportunity, but when he goes up there and looks absolutely pathetic, I have to draw conclusions.

I watched James Outman in the minor leagues and agreed 100% with BA on their evaluation:

Scouting Report: Outman is a physical, athletic specimen more usually seen playing football. He is a plus runner at 6-foot-3, 215 pounds with quick initial burst and elite acceleration in center field. He ticks up to nearly plus-plus speed underway and runs down long flies to both gaps and at the wall. The Dodgers refined Outman’s lefthanded swing to get his upper and lower halves more in sync. He still has a hand hitch and has to cheat to get to velocity, but he sees pitches well and crushes fastballs when he connects.

The Future: Outman is a nearly-ready fourth outfielder with his defense and power at the plate. He’ll head to Triple-A in 2022.

— Baseball America

The fact that he “still has a hand hitch and has to cheat to get to velocity” will limit him ultimately to being a platoon player or a 4th outfielder. On the other hand, Miguel Vargas caught my eye in 2019, as an 18-year-old. BA said this about him:

Scouting Report: Vargas had a reputation as one of Cuba’s top youth hitters and lived up to it in his pro debut, batting .400/.464/.592 at the Rookie levels before finishing the year at low Class A Great Lakes. Strong and physical at 6-foot-3, 198 pounds, Vargas combines an advanced approach, supreme hand-eye coordination and plus raw power. He has an inside-out swing that primarily sends drives for doubles into the right-center gap, but once he learns to pull the ball evaluators expect his home run numbers to spike. Defensively, Vargas has quick hands and an above-average arm at third base, but his slow-twitch body has most evaluators projecting him to first.

The Future: Vargas will have to mash to rise as a likely first baseman, but he has the offensive tools to do it. He’ll start 2019 back at Great Lakes.

— BA 2019

I won’t bore you will all the scouting reports, but in 2022, BA said this:

Scouting Report: Vargas is a natural-born hitter with an uncanny feel for the barrel. His flat swing keeps his bat in the zone for a long time and covers the entire plate, allowing him to drive balls no matter where they’re pitched. His inside-out swing naturally drives balls the other way into the right-center gap, but he began turning on pitches in 2021 and surprised even Dodgers officials with his above-average pull-side power. He rarely strikes out and is a consensus plus hitter. Vargas faces more questions defensively. He catches balls hit at him and has solid hands, but his slow feet limit his range and mobility at third base. He is a fringy defender with a slightly better than average arm and may have to move to first.

The Future: Vargas draws comparisons to fellow countryman Yuli Gurriel as a hitter and has similar impact potential. He’ll open 2022 at Triple-A and could make his major league debut during the year.

— BA, 2022

Then is 2023, they wrote this:

Scouting Report: Vargas is as complete a hitter as any player his age. He has outstanding control of the strike zone, an innate sense for which pitches to attack and an elite feel for the barrel. He squares up all types of pitches with a direct, inside-out swing that stays in the zone for a long time and covers the entire plate, giving pitchers few holes to attack. He naturally drives the ball the opposite way to right-center field and has begun turning on pitches on the inner half. Vargas doesn’t have huge raw power, but he’s a borderline plus-plus hitter who makes so much quality contact he should reach 20-plus home runs as he gets stronger. Vargas has remade his body to become sleeker and faster and is now a plus runner who posted the second-fastest sprint speed on the Dodgers in 2022. The improved agility has helped his range at third base, but he’s still a below-average defender whose actions, footwork, throwing accuracy and focus need improvement. He is raw and inexperienced at first base, second base and left field.

The Future: Vargas earns frequent comparisons to countryman Yuli Gurriel and has similar potential to be a premier hitter who contends for batting titles. The Dodgers will try to find Vargas’ best position to get him in the lineup every day in 2023.

Scouting Grades: Hitting: 65. Power: 50. Speed: 60. Fielding: 40. Arm: 55

— BA, 2023

By actual count, I have watched Miguel Vargas and most other Dodger prospects over 100 games throughout the years. Get this straight: Miguel Vargas is not my favorite player. He is simply a player that many talent evaluators (including me) think will be a very good MLB player. Only a moron, dumbass, idiot, or clinically insane person would change their opinion about Miguel Vargas based upon the fact that he broke two fingers early last season and never was the same afterward. Who needs fingers to hit anyway? All I can say to you, naysayers, is…

Now, Miguel Vargas may not make it in MLB. There are many prospects (some better than him) who have flamed out. I will be the first to say that I was wrong, but right about now, if you say that Vargas is not a top MLB prospect…

Also, if Miguel Vargas can be included in a trade that fills a Dodger team need, then I am all for it. Tomorrow, I will review Michael Busch and what we might expect from him.

OB% vs. OPS

I like to break things down to their simplest form. OB% simply tells us what percentage of the time a player gets on base. On the other hand, OPS is a barometer of how far they get each time they come up to bat. This is where that player ends up on average. The best players in the game (superstars) have an OPS of over 1.000. That means that every time they step into the batters box, they will end up at 1B (on average). So, would you rather have a player with a .664 OPS and a .353 OB% (James Outman) or a player with a .career .340 OB% but a .804 OPS (Max Muncy) against LHP? The guy with the higher OPS gets closer to 1B every time he is up. I rest my case!

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  1. dodgerpatchDecember 29, 2023

    I think both of those guys are expendable, not necessarily because the Dodgers have become disillusioned with them or that they don’t have potential, but because they’re blocked and are a depreciating asset if they stay stuck in AAA.

  2. WayneDecember 29, 2023

    Both Busch & Vargas may yet prove themselves as MLB players, many in-the-know still like their positives. But yes, the Betts-to-2B move clearly indicates a negative change with the Fo thinking on Vargas from last year to this year. Maybe they think he can play LF, …or maybe not.

  3. JohnnyGentleDecember 29, 2023

    Dodger Way is even lower than LADC

  4. DodgerHorseDecember 29, 2023

    1 Smith

    2 Freeman

    3 Betts

    4 Lux

    5 Muncy

    6 Ohtani

    7 CT3

    8 Outman

    9 Heyward

    10 Barnes

    11 Rojas

    12 Margot

    13 ????

  5. Mark TimmonsDecember 29, 2023

    BJD,

    I suggest that you go back to Dodger Way. They pander to morons. You’ll love it there.

    I do have to admit that you make eloquent use of the English Language (along with much hyperbole) to say very little. Someone must be paying you by the word!

    I liked it for a couple of minutes but now find it boring!

    If I monetized LADT like Dodger Way, I would write bullshit too that makes the morons return, but don’t confuse me with someone who gives a fuck!

    …. and I don’t do it for the money. Sometimes I wonder why I do it when I have to deal with morons.

  6. Ron Fairly fanDecember 29, 2023

    As much fun as it is to watch the back and forth about who is this or who is that. Nobody knows how anyone will perform in 2024 Outman may crater Vargas or Busch may meet their respective projections. They all 3 might be all stars or not. As Dodgerrick has pointed out there is one opening on the 26 man roster.

    That last spot has many options. Taylor the everyday left fielder even though the team is better served with him as a utility man. An open competition between Busch and Vargas for the left field job with the loser back to AAA and trade deadline capital. Sign a full time left field option with Busch and Vargas trade capital.

    Until they get to opening day with their roster nobody knows what to expect. The only thing I know for sure is I’m looking forward to enjoying the ride.

    One thing about platoons is I believe the Yankees of the 50’s used quite a few under Stengel. Yes Ron Fairly and Willie Davis were my favorite players.

  7. Duke Not SniderDecember 29, 2023

    Mark makes a bit of hash explaning the difference between OBP and OPS. By now I think 98% of us understand that OPS is simply the on-base percentage and slugging percentage added together. (On-base Plus Slugging.) It’s a great stat in part because it exalts on-base percentage over batting average. It respects the adage, “a walk is as good as a hit.”

    Then Mark writes: “So, would you rather have a player with a .664 OPS and a .353 OB% (James Outman) or a player with a .340 OB% but a .804 OPS (Max Muncy) against LHP?”

    Say what?

    I guess that Mark is trying to argue against my contention that it would make more sense to platoon Max than

    Outman. Mark would have a good case if his data was correct.

    He’s right about Outman’s stats in ’23.

    But his stats for Max are way, way, way off the mark. Not sure where they come from, but they certainly don’t reflect Max’s performance in ’23.

    Max’s OPS against lefties was not .804, but .641. His OBP was not .340, but .263. He still hit some homers but his production against lefties was not good at all. The good news is that he crushed righties with an OPS of .881 and OBP of .363. So these splits suggest that perhaps Taylor or Vargas should occasionally replace Max against lefties. (Taylor, I assume, would also provide better defense.) Taylor had a .795 OPS against lefties in ’23.

    Or maybe Will Smith should get a chance to play 3B.

    That’s an idea we used to kick around a lot.

  8. G-manDecember 29, 2023

    Three things that can undermine an otherwise great team

    1. A bad defensive 3b

    2. Lack of a good closer

    3. A poor defensive 3b

  9. OldBear48December 29, 2023

    Heading home to Colorado this morning. See ya all on the other side of 23.

  10. OldBear48December 29, 2023

    Here is a stat that might shock some. Ichiro’s career OPS……757.

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