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Clayton Kershaw is my favorite Dodger. I was on the Kershaw bandwagon long before he was Clayton Kershaw. Disclaimer: I do not claim to be the only one to see that. Ray Charles saw it too, but it was about 13 years ago that Roger Dodger and Voldmar and I went to Beloit, Wisconsin to see Clayton Kershaw pitch for the Great Lakes Loons, and it was as close as

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Clayton Kershaw is my favorite Dodger.  I was on the Kershaw bandwagon long before he was Clayton Kershaw.  Disclaimer:  I do not claim to be the only one to see that.  Ray Charles saw it too, but it was about 13 years ago that Roger Dodger and Voldmar and I went to Beloit, Wisconsin to see Clayton Kershaw pitch for the Great Lakes Loons, and it was as close as you can get. We sat in the “scout area” and it was obvious to everyone that he was special.  His stuff was “otherworldly” but the Beloit team roughed  him up a bit.  That brings up a couple of issues :

  1. How does Clayton evolve?
  2. Why do players stay on teams when they don’t do well?

Clayton Needs to Evolve

When Clayton first came up, he sometimes touched 97-98 MPH.  Over the years, that has went down as he has amassed over 2,000 innings on that Golden Left Arm. I think he likely will need surgery and miss a season very soon, but he’s not there yet.  Saturday in Milwaukee, he rarely pitched above 89 MPH, and he should have only allowed 1 run, but the Dodgers’ defense let him down. He looked dominant at times and not so dominant at other times.  He is always around the plate, so hitters are always looking in the “zone.”

When  you have a fastball that hits 93-94, like even last year it’s difficult to hit a strike, but when that fastball is 88-90, it’s easier to hit any of his pitches.  Clayton Kershaw is still an “Elite Pitcher.”  His ERA is 2.64 and he has a 1.09 WHIP.  He is one of the Top 15 pitchers in baseball, but he’s no longer THE BEST THERE IS!

The thing is:  I think he can still get better… until his arm gives out… if he evolves.  He can no longer throw one down the middle and dare some batter to try and hit it, because they can! He is going to have to work the corners a little more and maybe that will lead to a few more walks… and yes, I know walks are bad.  I’m not talking about a lot more walks, just more “nibbling” like when Greg Maddux evolved.

He also has to change his pitching paterns – hitters are jumping on that first pitch, because they know he is going to throw a strike… and they are ready. Clayton just nededs to pitch 5 or 6 innings and give up 2 runs or less and he can be a force for us.  I would love to have deGrom, but (1) I doubt he is traded; and (2) if he is, it will be for a HUGE HAUL (think Verdugo, Lux, May, Ruiz and Santana – yes, that kind of HUGE).  Why would the Mets trade him unless they get a windfall?

So, the Dodgers have to make up in quantity, what they might lack in quality.  They need 8 healthy starters for the playoffs – 4 of whom will be in the bullpen. They may add another arm, but they won’t overpay and they won’t go over the Luxury Tax Threshold. If everyone is healthy at the end of the season, I am not so sure the team needs another arm, but it never hurts.

Caleb Ferguson is one pitch away from being a solid starter, but with what he has, he is a solid bullpen piece. He may never get that third pitch… and that ain’t a bad thing.

Why Teams Keep Players Fans Think are Bad

I must confess I was so frustrated with Logan Forsythe that I wanted him DFA’ed… or worse. Sometimes we can’t understand why a player is still on the team when we look at the stats, but maybe we aren’t seeing “everything.” We don’t see how they work out, we don’t see how they study film, how they prepare or how they take extra BP and ask for help (or not).  We don’t see conversations they have with teammates and coaches. We don’t see how much they want it.  We often don’t understand what kind of injury they may have – where they are in the rehab process and many other things.  We don’t know how their teammates feel about them, but we do know that Doc believes in players who work hard.

In The LA Times, Houston Mitchell wrote this:

Logan Forsythe is 31 years old and in the final season of a three-year, $18.5-million deal he signed with Tampa Bay before the 2016 season. The Dodgers acquired him before the 2017 season in exchange for Jose De Leon.

Since then, Forsythe has hit .219/.325/.317, good for a 73 OPS+. I do believe Davey Lopes would put up similar numbers, and he’s 73.

So why does Dave Roberts keep sending him out there? He was asked that, and here’s his response according to Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register:

“I don’t ever doubt his preparedness, his focus, his intent. It’s been a tough go for Logan for 2 1/2 months, 3 months. I think the defense is above average.

“You guys know me — I don’t like to give up on players. Especially when they’re doing things the right way, because I think that sends a message to the clubhouse. I appreciate his work. He never once takes his offense out to the defensive side. For me, that means a lot.”

Now on one level, I understand that response. Roberts isn’t going to bury a player publicly. It’s not like anyone expects him to answer with “Yeah, he’s horrible. We’re thinking of releasing him.”

The troubling part is the “It’s been tough go for Logan for 2 1/2, 3 months.”

So, Doc ran him out there again on Sunday and Logan went 3-4 with a walk to boot.  I’m not going to pronounce him “cured” but it’s a start.  Matt Carpenter of the Cardinals was hitting .140 with 2 HR on May 15th and they stuck with him. He’s now hitting .277 with 24 HR!  You and I do not know what Logan has been going through, but Dave Roberts does… plus he knows a lot more too.  That’s good enough for me.  I defer to Doc – he’ not an idiot and I trust he has good reasons. Like Clayton, who got roughed up by Beloit, good things sometimes come to those who wait!

We got to Milwaukee just as the gates opened, so I watched BP and all the warmups.  Some may think Justin Turner was rushed back, but I watched him in warmups and he was lobbying for playing Saturday night.  He was running, twisting and doing everything he was supposed to do.  Yesterday, in real game action, he felt he still wasn’t right and asked out of the game.  Good one him!  Give him a few more days…

Puig will be back soon and I want to see Verdugo at leadoff. The Dodgers have lots of streaky hitters (Bellinger, Grandal, Pederson, Taylor, et al) – they need more Machados, Turners and Verdugos!

Photos from Milwaukee

We had a blast in Milwaukee.  I forgot to take many pictures, but here’s a few, in case you care.  We saw the Milwaukee Air Show in the afternoon featuring The Thunderbirds.  It was pretty awesome. The Dodgers game?  Not so much, but there are some nice pics of Nomar, Alana, Dylan Hernandez, Clayton and Manny. By the way, I have no doubt that Manny can play SS as good… maybe better than Corey Seager!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  1. IdahoalJuly 24, 2018

    If you are thinking this is the year, you have to keep Ryu. He was pitching well before he got hurt. You let him walk this winter. Same is true with Grandal.

    I believe this winter 2-3 outfielders will be traded. Joc has done better than I thought, but I would trade him along with Puig. I think both Toles and Verdugo have higher ceilings. The problem with Toles is health issues. Can he stay on the field.

  2. the truth hurtsJuly 24, 2018

    Nola has the 5th best ERA in baseball, 2.27, just behind Degrom, Sale, Verlander and Snell

    Not gonna be easy tonight!

  3. DionysisJuly 24, 2018

    Remember last year when bellinger was our 1b for the next decade? Didn’t even last a year. Muncys our 1b.

  4. Mark TimmonsJuly 25, 2018

    Let’s not forget OPS:

    A Great .9000 and Higher

    B Very Good .8334 to .8999

    C Above Average .7667 to .8333

    D Average .7000 to .7666

    E Below Average .6334 to .6999

    F Poor .5667 to .6333

    G Very Poor .5666 and Lower

  5. DanielJuly 25, 2018

    Britton is going to Yankees

  6. Mark TimmonsJuly 25, 2018

    Dodger Players

    A Great .9000 and Higher – Manny, Kemp, Muncy

    B Very Good .8334 to .8999 – Pederson, Grandal

    C Above Average .7667 to .8333 – Taylor, Bellinger, Puig,Hernandez

    D Average .7000 to .7666 – Turner, Verdugo

    E Below Average .6334 to .6999 – Utley, Toles

    F Poor .5667 to .6333 – Barnes, Forsythe, Farmer

    That is according to Bill James

  7. BlutoJuly 25, 2018

    $250,000 fly out to start the 4th inning. #Dodgers⁠ ⁠ Kenta Maeda just reached 90 IP for the season, 1st of his IP bonuses. Already got $1m for making 15 starts. 2018 salary so far is $4.4m. All of this bonuses he collects counts against LAD’s shrinking margin under the CBT

  8. norcaldodgerfanJuly 25, 2018

    continuing last night’s discussion about Bellinger. He really needs to sit. Completely out of sync and is not even giving himself a fighting chance. His base hit tonight was a slapstick to LF with almost no front leg plant, arms only. Sit him down Doc and use Verdugo in the OF for the next 3 days.

  9. DionysisJuly 25, 2018

    Calhoun homered off montas

  10. dodgerrickJuly 25, 2018

    For the 3rd game since the All Star break, the Dodgers’ starting pitcher has been unable to hold onto an early lead. They are giving up the longball. And there are still too many situations where the Dodgers have left too many men on base and don’t hit with RISP.

  11. DanielJuly 25, 2018

    It was not professional from Roberts. You dont lose a game like this

  12. Watford DodgerJuly 25, 2018

    Daniel, I hear you.

    What a shocking way to lose a game, especially after all the effort to get to 16 innings.

    Hill had warmed, so let him pitch. He could have pitched for as long as necessary. A win for him tonight would have been as valuable as win in his next outing.

    Also, the inability to manufacture a single run in 10 innings from the 6th is pathetic. No small ball or running game, just a total reliance on the long ball.

    This philosophy will not get the job done this season.

    Wonder what this symbolic defeat, with the manager giving the game away will do

    Long term?

  13. Val9000July 25, 2018

    I think it’s pretty simple… Dave just doesn’t have a great feel for when his pitchers are in trouble and/or when start losing their effectiveness.

    And conversely he’ll often take out pitchers too soon when they are rolling… most notably with Hill last year throughout the playoffs.

    Strip should have probably been taken out on Monday after Valentin doubled and Maeda should have been lifted after Franco doubled in Santana to make it 4-2 tonight. You’re just playing with fire… I know what he was trying to do and yeah, it would have been great for Kenta to get through that 7th and save an extra arm for the early game tomorrow… well, when you guess wrong, this is what can happen.

    I could care less about the outcome of this game in the grand scheme of things. But we should be extremely concerned about what this portends. If he hasn’t learned from past mistakes and really doesn’t have a good feel for how to handle his pitching staff in close games against good teams. I would pay good money to know what Rick Honeycutt is saying to Dave in these situations… because while Dave… having never been a pitcher in his baseball career, he can somewhat be excused for not having a good feel for pitching or his pitching staff. For Honeycutt… he just simply doesn’t have the same excuse.

  14. dodgerrickJuly 25, 2018

    This may have been the stupidest way to lose a ballgame that I can remember. You’d think they could get a couple of innings out of Ferguson. If not that, they have Buehler coming up to pitch tomorrow so they could have had a starter pitch as long as necessary. This is a loss to be laid at Roberts’ feet – totally stupid.

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