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Passing of the Torch

I am sure Doc will not say it, but Kenley is no longer the closer, however, he s not off the team. There won t be an official closer it will be a committee. Jansen will again be on the team next year and maybe Bazooka will be ready to close sometime next year but he s not right now.

By Mark Timmons5 min readJump to 159 comments

I am very bored quarantining at home and it has just started (this is my 3rd day), so I thought I would weigh in on the game last night, where we might have seen a passing of the torch for the closer role, but to who?

Josh Hader had a higher ERA than Kenley Jansen this year, and Aroldis Chapman was only slightly better than Jansen with a 3.09 ERA (3.33 for Jansen). Many of the comments yesterday are just knee-jerk reactions to an epic melt-down by Kenley. I am sure Doc will not say it, but Kenley is no longer the closer, however, he’s not off the team. There won’t be an “official” closer – it will be a committee. Jansen will again be on the team next year and maybe Bazooka will be ready to close sometime next year… but he’s not right now.

Let’s not forget that on September 4th, Kenley had a 1.06 ERA, then he got shelled in back-to-back outings and his ERA soared to 4.42. In his last six regular season performances, he did not give up an earned run. However, his ERA for the playoffs is 7.71 – that won’t work for a closer. He seems to be on or off, but from here forward, Dave Roberts will use him differently.

Joe Kelly was rusty, but he has the experience and he was not a Wild Man last night – he frequently missed by “that much.” However, he was not “Machine Gun Kelly” either. Joe Kelly got the Dodgers out of a huge jam and I am sure he will be utilized more, as will Floro and McGee. The next time Trienen is used it will be in the 8th and 9th and Beaz will take the place of Trienen in the 7th or 8th inning.

Just like Cole and Verlander, Clayton is going to give up some Home Runs because he pounds the zone, but his playoff ERa is 1.93 this year with a 0.71 WHIP. Gerritt Cole gave up 14 HR this year to Claytons 8. I am not worried about Clayton – he hit 94 MPH a couple of times last night. It was not his sharpest game, but it was dang good.

The bottom line is that they won against the team that many experts believe is the 2nd best team in the playoffs. Tatis and Machado are locked in and these young bucks are hungry. Machado did not do a bat flip when he hit a HR – it was a “bat throw,” That’s OK, but when Graterol shows some excitement, Manny goes off the rails? If you can do it Manny, the Dodgers can do it – You lost! Shut up and play!

Seager, Betts, Muncy and Barnes were the offensive heroes and Cody was my Player-of-the-Game for his HR and THE CATCH! Wow – We will be seeing that for a long time.

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Maybe with another winter with Driveline, Kenly can recapture some magic…. maybe he can’t. I hear that he is fat. I don’t think so – he’s a big guy, but I would not say he is “fat.” Over the winter, the Dodgers need to decide on a closer – maybe he is on the staff – maybe he isn’t, but right about now, if I had 2 lefties to face in the 9th, I would still bring in Kenley – LH hitters only OPS .518 against him. That’s where I would use him… but it would not be in a 1-run game.

Doc brought him in in a 3-run game. I was fine with that – In the past, Kenley has earned the right to close with his body of work – he lost it last night. Unfortunately, a closer judged by his most recent performances and we have seen this too much recently. It’s not yet the end of the line, but it could be close. Now, Roberts has to re-shuffle the pen.

The bottom line is that the Dodgers are ahead 2-0 in this series against the 2nd best team in the NL. That’s something! What happens today? I would start Dylan Floro and try and get one or two innings out of him. Then I would go to Julio Urias and see if he could go 5 or 6 innings. I don’t know if that is anyone’s plan but mine, but I like that idea. Julio has playoff experience… not a great record, but experience counts.

2021

This has been a crazy year in so many ways, but here we are on the cusp of another NLCS where the Dodgers will likely play the Braves. The Braves are dangerous offensively, but lack the pitching depth. I think the Dodgers could add another pitcher for the NLCS.

In the off-season, the Dodgers should try and lock up Seager and Bellinger, but that may not be possible. On the other hand, it could be possible given baseball’s current financial climate. Like Betts, they will not take a “Hometown Discount.” Both will command around $300 million deals. Joc and Kike will be gone next year and I do not see any big Free Agent Signings. McKinstry and Reks or Raley will find a spot on the team and I have heard that they have big hopes for Cody Thomas.

Justin Turner will be 36 next month and will be the DH – I think he will get about $9 Million a year over 2 years and that might be high! Who is going to give him more? Choices will have to be made in the bullpen. Who to sign, who to let walk? Friedman will look for more salvage projects like McGee. He may return at the right price, but let’s not forget that David Price will be back and Josiah Gary will have another years’ experience. If it were up to me, I would make Dustin May the closer for a year, while I groomed Bazooka! Just my two cents!

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  1. EricOctober 9, 2020

    I like it. Go for the kill. We got Urias as long as he is effective. We still have Gonsolin. We are in a good position.

  2. CassidyOctober 9, 2020

    Love it Hawk!

  3. BadgerOctober 9, 2020

    He must have knowed something.

    His thinking? …. the Dodgers, for the time being anyway, own the Padres The next series is 7 straight. He wants his starters well rested.

  4. Singing The BlueOctober 9, 2020

    If we win tonight and Gonsolin starts game 3 or 4 of the next series he will have gone 18 or 19 days without appearing in an MLB game. That seems like it’s asking for trouble. But what do I know, I wanted to make Buehler the closer.

  5. CassidyOctober 9, 2020

    What the hell was Roberts thinking starting Joc tonight!! When things go bad Roberts is an idiot and when it goes right he’s just lucky!

  6. CassidyOctober 9, 2020

    This is what Urias is capable of when he has command! Ace like performance! And if gets his change up going again to righties. Forget about it!

  7. EricOctober 9, 2020

    This is a very good team as good as the teams when I first started watching the Dodgers in 1977 the late 70s and 80s teams.

    As I’ve said all along the only thing I fear is Doc and the way he uses the bullpen.

    The next series is going to be tougher because Doc won’t have the luxury of using a couple starting pitchers in relief. Or am I overlooking something and he could?

    As I write this Will Smith has his third hit of the game. I like it.

  8. EricOctober 9, 2020

    Why did Hernandez pinch-hit for Joc with a righty pitching?

  9. JeffOctober 9, 2020

    The nit picking has become tiresome and unnecessary. Why this, why that. Just watch the game and enjoy the victory! Why create problems when there are none?

    I will admit to being wrong about picking the Dodgers in 4. I really wanted to say SWEEP, but I felt that would be too arrogant.

  10. Michael Norris (AKA Bear)October 9, 2020

    The only comment I have is that just once it was easy. 5 run lead against this team is not enough…LOL….anyway, I think they will lock it down. And meet Atlanta on Monday. Kersh or Buehler in game one, and they have home field the entire playoffs, so they will be up last in games 1&2. And one thing to remember. Atlanta has thrown 4 shutouts in their 6 games. BUT< the offenses they were playing were no where near as good as the Dodgers.

  11. CassidyOctober 9, 2020

    I do believe Roberts has managed the Dodgers to a sweep of a very good Padre team! Well done Doc!

  12. BobbyOctober 9, 2020

    Urias striking out Tatis with the bases loaded was the momentum changing, game changing play of the game.

    He was brilliant today.

  13. EricOctober 9, 2020

    Will Smith five hit game setting a Dodger postseason record. I love it.

  14. JeffOctober 9, 2020

    To think someone wanted to play Barnes in this game and sit Smith. 5 hits!! 3 RBI’s, and a smile.

    Now Bellinger delivers a triple knocking in 2 more runs!

  15. CassidyOctober 9, 2020

    Now we can bring Jansen in

  16. JeffOctober 9, 2020

    Who wanted Rosenthal? First appearance and he gives up 4 earned runs on 2 hits and 2 BBs. No, no, no. We are rollin’ in it, now! Congrats to a great team showing the league that they are the gold standard. Now I would love face off against Houston who thinks they have something to prove.

  17. Michael Norris (AKA Bear)October 9, 2020

    Well they finally gave me a no doubter. About time too, I am getting really short on hair to pull out.

  18. HawkeyedodgerOctober 9, 2020

    I think Smoltz better check the ages of Smith, Belli, Seager, , Betts, Urias, May, Gonsolin, and Buehler before he starts handing future division to the Padres.

  19. QuasimodoOctober 9, 2020

    Machado barely seems a memory his time as a Dodger. He is special but not as special as Manny thinks he is. Got a feeling the Dodgers clubhouse felt the same as me about him.

  20. RC DodgerOctober 9, 2020

    Great series by the Dodgers! After the Grisham celebration game in San Diego, the dodgers beat them 5 in a row.

    I did not understand a lot of the coaching decisions in the series, but in the end, many of them worked. I couldn’t believe Joc was in the starting lineup against a LHP, yet he came through with two hits. And I do not understand using Dustin May for one inning and then Kolarek. But Julio was fantastic. And the Dodgers proved they were the much better team. Onto a tough matchup with the Braves!

    A belated thanks to Jeff and 2d2 for their great insights and enjoyable writing. Hope to hear from you again.

    And get well soon, Mark. We are praying for a speedy recovery.

  21. Michael Norris (AKA Bear)October 9, 2020

    Angels finalized the deal to buy the Big A. Paying the city of Anaheim 150 million. Keeps them there until 2075. Who said they rely on the HR too much>? Nice way to move the line last night. Will Smith in his interview was awed that he set a record. Turner set a record also for most post season hits by a Dodger passing Steve Garvey.

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