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Objective vs. Subjective

Whenever a statement can be debated, whenever the observations or assessments are laced with personal interpretations and not based on facts, then we can say that the statement is subjective in nature. Objective means making an unbiased, balanced observation based on facts that…

By Mark Timmons5 min readJump to 90 comments

Whenever a statement can be debated, whenever the observations or assessments are laced with personal interpretations and not based on facts, then we can say that the statement is subjective in nature. Objective means making an unbiased, balanced observation based on facts that can be verified. A statement or assessment is said to be objective when it can be verified and it does not have any interpretations based on the emotions of a person.

If some of you recommended a stock, I would absolutely short it because your opinions are driven by emotion. On any given day, you have wanted to get rid of about every player on the Dodgers, not realizing that baseball is a long, strange, funny season. Instead, I hear this kind of stuff on an everyday basis:

  • Freddie is in decline.
  • Mookie should go back to RF.”
  • “Vesia should be gone.”
  • Ramirez should be DFA’ed.”
  • “Grove is just trade bait.
  • Rojas can’t hit.
  • The Dodgers signed the wrong Japanese pitcher.
  • “Kike needs to be traded.”
  • “Kershaw should not be on the playoff roster.”
  • Roberts can’t manage.
  • Teoscar should platoon.”
  • Yada, Yada, Yada…. as the BS spews out of your keyboards!

Do You Understand Why You are Called Morons on Other Boards?

Objective vs. Subjective:

When you criticize a player or a manager, or even a team president, what you say is generally clouded with emotion, which blinds you to the facts. However, the fact of the matter is that most baseball decisions are subjective. As an example, it took some balls for Dave Roberts to bring in Yohan Ramirez to save the game. Remember him? He’s the guy that someone said should never throw another pitch for the Dodgers after his first outing. Doc had to find out how he would react in such a situation. Pretty damn good, I would say. By the way, I said that I would have left Paxton in the last game to save the bullpen and last night. the Dodgers demonstrated why that is really a thing. They almost ran out of pitchers. Many of you have no clue. Did I hurt your feelings? Sorry, Then take your keyboard and go home or man up and quit acting like a dumbass. Can you just stop the knee-jerk reactions and act like you have a modicum of understanding? This is a long season. Baseball is a funny game. What makes you cry will make you laugh!

Every damn year we go through this, and just about everyone laments how bad the Dodgers are, and they still win 100 games. No, they have not won the World Series every year, and under the new format, no one will. Those days are over, and they are not coming back, and no matter how hard you wish for it, Rob Manfred and MLB will not change the playoffs so that the Dodgers can win easily!

Last year, Marcel Ozuna of the Braves batted .085 in April. This year, in the same month, he batted .327 with a .400 OB% and a 1.036 OPS. He’s the same age as CT3, but right about now, he is playing like an All-Star. Sometimes you have to wait for good things to happen.

Last Night’s Game Was Like a Prizefight

The Dodgers and Yankees pitchers were throwing darts, and the Dodgers prevailed in 11 on a TKO. What does it all mean? It’s one game. The Dodgers did not hit, and neither did the Yankees. The Yankees are off to a great start, but their new pitchers have been “otherworldly,” and that is not sustainable. Their bullpen has four Dodgers castoffs: Santana, Kahnle, Ferguson, and V-Gon. Stanton will go on the IL soon enough. Rizzo’s best days are in the rearview mirror. Grisham is a DFA waiting, and LeMahiru needs to retire. Do you think the Dodgers have a bad bench? Try Trammell, Jones, Grisham, and Smith.

The Dodgers have too much depth on both sides of the ball. AF will make changes that are warranted. Vargas will get a chance, Outman will be back, and I think Lipcius will also get a shot. Patience… and take a dose of objectivity – also try to look at the big picture.

X-Cites

Platoon him? Ha, Ha!
https://twitter.com/TulsaDrillers/status/1799250561931661591

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  1. Dodger DaveJune 9, 2024

    In the past the Yankees have had a no facial hair policy.

    I have not noticed any Yankee players with beards and only a couple with pussy bumpers.

    Verdugo looks a lot better.

  2. CassidyJune 9, 2024

    Huge! Vesia rescues Stone! Very nice performance by the young man. Kept his composure with a lot of soft contact hits.

  3. Roger askewJune 9, 2024

    Say what you want about some of docs decisions, but he has pulled all the right levers so far with the bullpen this series, vesia was a brass ball decision with the bases loaded and yankee stadium rocking. Proof that all Roberts can do is put these guys in situations he believes they can handle, totally up to the player to execute. About 50/50 sometimes with the bullpen. Box of chocolates.

  4. CassidyJune 9, 2024

    Platoon that guy!!!!!!!!

  5. Roger askewJune 9, 2024

    Just amazing, all the hater trolls on the spectrum LA sites are crickets. Not a sound, 8-2 has a nice ring to it. They refuse to give Roberts any props when he puts a lineup out there that kicks ass in a crucial series or plugs in the pitching to shut down the Yankee threats. Fing pathetic. And I’m watching some of you keyboard cowboys on this site as well. Watch what you say when you throw out your haterade when things are going south for a bad stretch or two. Got a big ass bottle of ketchup for you to eat your crow with. Same doomsday crap was being vented about a month ago when the Braves came to town, and we all know how that turned out. Trust this team and the long game. And hey, Taylor got a hit!!

  6. Roger askewJune 9, 2024

    Gotta question Mark, you ever notice on this site when the Dodgers win there are hardly any positive comments aside from good game and such. But when they lose the arm chair managers come out in force , first thing is fire Roberts, which as long as Freidman is in power, ain’t gonna happen, and also offer amazing hitting and lineup advice, even though nobody has even sniffed the big leagues. Trust the damn process! There is something about Doc, and a few guys on this site have pointed it out , that the players respect and love about him, ever notice you never notice anything toxic coming out of the clubhouse, and that s been for years! Yeah, he ain’t perfect , but he is a great fit for this team. And I’ve already noticed some of our so called ‘fans ‘ are saying the Yankees aren’t at full strength with Soto out, and I call BullShit. Nobody really talks about it, but Roggin and Rodney on AM 570 sportsnet LA had a great point the other day. Not having Muncy in the lineup has really impacted the offense. Yeah, his average isn’t the greatest, but he provided protection for Will Smith and also made the lineup way more dangerous, plus the dude is edgy, which is what we need . Always a threat to go yard, and he will be back . . So once again, back off everyone, we are still not even close to full strength yet, not even counting Kersh, Kelly, Miller, Graturol,

  7. Old Bear 48June 9, 2024

    Nice win, 11 runs at Yankee Stadium and there was a truly post-season buzz in the stands. The game was on Fox, so we got Joe Davis and Smoltz. Pre-game crew featured two former Yankees, Jeter and Rodriguez, and Mookie’s old teammate, David Ortiz. I love Big Papi, but he is really hard to understand sometimes. But his short interview with Mookie was cool. As far as the Dodgers are concerned, all of the players in the starting lineup got hits. 5-9 drove in 8 of the 11 runs, but 1-4 scored 7 of them. So, this was a total team effort. Stone did a great job navigating the Yankee lineup. His only real mistake was Judge’s home run. He pitched out of a couple of jams and then was victimized by a couple of soft hits in the sixth. But Vesia got him out of that mess. Teoscar is now tied with Ohtani for the team lead in homers and is all alone at the top of the RBI list with 47. When asked about the lineup with Taylor in left, Roberts said he wanted his best defensive lineup out there. People call people names on the internet because they are invisible. There are no reprisals. You aren’t going to get punched in the mouth because you are not facing the person you are antagonizing. Most of my life, I have had a short fuse. Overcoming my bad temper was something I had to really work on. Now, I realize all that arguing is a total waste of energy. And I also realize from when I was writing for this site, you have a lot of people who are going to disagree with what you say. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Others are allowed to disagree with that opinion. What is moronic to some, makes perfect sense to someone else. Maybe they just could not express it in a way the other person understands. I am not always right, and I have no more information than any other fan. I never played beyond high school, or when I played ball all the time in the service. I love the games history, and I read an awful lot. What I can discern is trends by watching, and then going back and researching the history of what a certain GM< player or manager does. Freidman has made a ton of trades. He has pulled off a few blockbusters at the deadline. Most notably, the trades for Darvish, Machado, Scherzer and Turner. There was also the three-team trade that brought Latos, Morse, Avilan, Arroyo, Johnson, Peraza and Wood to LA in 2015. I understand why many want Robert Jr. He is a talented player. But his MO says that AF rarely trades for an impact bat at the deadline. Very rarely. Turner came to the Dodgers simply because LA was not going to send both Ruiz and Gray to the Nats for Scherzer. To get the deal done, they added Turner, and the Dodgers added two other minor leaguers. Machado would have never been a Dodger had there not been a need for a SS. But Seager was injured, and the Dodgers wanted a better option than Taylor and Kike who played 103 games there. Machado played 51 games there, and 16 at third. That is why I feel he won't trade for an impact bat, but someone who is more complementary and who is a more consistent contact hitter. Will it happen? Only AF knows what his strategy and approach to the deadline will be. And don't say, hey he traded for Betts. That was a winter deal.

  8. Duke Not SniderJune 9, 2024

    My theory is that the Dodger brass have already decided that Vargas is no longer part of their long-term plans. If they still believed in Vargas that strongly, he’d be getting the starts that Taylor is getting.

    Just a theory… but why isn’t Vargas playing? Why is Taylor, slumping so badly, getting more chances to get on track?

    One reason is Taylor’s contract. Another is that Taylor is so much more versatile than Vargas.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if both Vargas and Taylor both get dealt this summer. The Dodgers would have to eat most of Taylor’s contract to do so, but they might. Vargas should be much easier to deal.

  9. WayneJune 9, 2024

    The Dodgers have a commanding 8.5 game lead in the division, but they point to Vargas’ bad defense as to the reason they must instead play a guy at his position who sports a negative OPS+, and whose ship set sail eons ago.

    That’s all one needs to know about what the Dodgers REALLY think of Vargas.

    The Dodgers will attempt to move both Taylor and Vargas this summer.

  10. WayneJune 9, 2024

    If losses have NO negative connotations and don’t really matter because it’s “just June”…

    then why project anything positive to “just-June wins?” Makes no sense.

    So crowing about June wins (Roger askew), or despairing about June losses really makes no sense.

  11. WayneJune 9, 2024

    Kudos to Vesia for turning his fortunes around! He’s pitching even better than last year.

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