How Do Trades Happen?
So, when a General Manager makes a trade, they automatically go to their list of MLB s TOP 100 Prospects and then check Baseball America s TOP 100 Prospects. Oh, and then they check all the articles that Keith Law, John Sickels, Ben Badler and Will Carroll write about the player or players and then maybe the conversation goes something like this: Hey wait, the Dodgers offered us a #29 and a
So, when a General Manager makes a trade, they automatically go to their list of MLB’s TOP 100 Prospects and then check Baseball America’s TOP 100 Prospects. Oh, and then they check all the articles that Keith Law, John Sickels, Ben Badler and Will Carroll write about the player or players and then maybe the conversation goes something like this:
“Hey wait, the Dodgers offered us a #29 and a #36 prospect and you guys didn’t offer us a player in the TOP 100. We are going with the Dodgers offer.”
If you believe it works anything like that, I would like to talk to your about this bridge that I have. It was only driven on by a little old lady to church on Sunday. Making trades works nothing like that at all. You see, baseball teams have scouts, consultants and special advisors who collaborate with the GM as to what they think of any certain player’s talent level and how they fit with that team’s needs.
I did not think much of the prospects the D-Bags traded to the Tigers for JD Martinez, but here’s what we don’t know: Maybe the Tigers valued those players a lot higher that I did, BA did and the MLB Top 100 List did. Maybe they believed those players filled positions within their organization better than other offers. Maybe the Dodgers didn’t even offer anything for JD Martinez, because they did not want to upset the team chemistry… after all the team is on a holy tear like nothing we have ever seen for quite some time.
And… while I would like to think it’s not true, it seems pretty obvious that when teams are dealing with the Dodgers they often ask more, because of the Dodgers ability to pay and depth of the farm system. Then there’s the fact that trade rumors are often, just that. Sometimes rumors are floated by the selling team to drive the price up. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear… unless of course, you hear it here!
As AC emphasized yesterday, this team was built over the winter so as not to have to overpay at the trade deadline. As fans, we like the excitement of trades, but the fact remains – even though a lock-down lefty would be nice, it may not be essential and it also is becoming clear, that Andrew Friedman has no intention of trading his top prospects. They won’t all pan out, but that’s why you horde them.
Rants and Raves
- Does anyone still doubt (as The Truth Hurts Preaches) The Church of Christ Taylor? I love him at leadoff – .307 BA/.381 OB%/.902 OPS/12-15 in SB/11 HR. He’s for real!
- Don’t look at Kike’s batting average as much as you look at what he does and when.
- Ross Stripling looks like he has his release point back.
- Maybe Dayton becomes that lock-down lefty.
- Colorado and AZ are both 11 and 11.5 games back. Neither has the depth to contend and while the Wild Card is within reach, I would not assume that either team gets it.
- Look, Ned Colletti is a good guy and did some good for the Dodgers, but if he was so good, how come no one is lined up to sign him to be their GM? I stand by my analysis of him. The Trade and signings of Schmidt, Jones, Kemp, Ethier and others were some of the worst overpays ever. Sometimes the best trades and signings are ones you DON’T MAKE!
- White and Santana headed to AA Tulsa. Man, is this farm system loaded! Both of these guys are potential #3’s!
Discussion (101)
Disagree, not disagreeable
Lots of talk about Calhoun’s fielding. What are his defensive stats this year?
OK, I am pretty sure he can play DH and I think Andrew knows that the DH is coming to the NL very soon (don’t hate me Hawkeye). You can’t put him at 1B when you have a guy that might be the best First Baseman in the history of the game there. He would scare me in LF but maybe he can play it.
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Here’s what I know: He can’t play 2B.
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It might be 2 years for the DH… but it’s coming and so are a bunch of other changes like Electronic balls and strikes, pitch clock and new substitution rules.
After reading this article about McCarthy, I am guessing the Dodgers might make a trade for a starter. http://dodgersdigest.com/2017/07/21/turns-out-brandon-mccarthy-is-the-guy-we-thought-he-was/
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What do “Yu” think?
Interesting.
Just read Box’s article above from DD and then read some of the comments.
Makes this place look very good.
He makes a good point. I don’t see McCarthy as a big game playoff pitcher.
We might get away with 3, Kershaw, Wood & Hill, but a 4th would be useful.
I think the plan was to use Urias, who they were keeping fresh. as one of 4 post season starters. I think they only have 3 now.
What would it take to land Verlander & Wilson?
Hawkeye, I agree with you. This is the year. I like Darvish, but I think we need a LHRP first. I was hoping McCarthy would have a good year. He still may. He certainly did not look good last night. It all depends on what the other teams want from us. I just do not think anyone is going to want Ryu, Maeda or McCarthy. If we cannot move at least two of those for a starting pitcher, then I see no reason to trade for a starting pitcher.
Mc Carthy has been very good until July. Here are his monthly splits:
April – 3 – 0, 3.10, 1.21 WHIP, 29IP/25K
May – 2 – 1, 3.57, .91 WHIP, 17IP/16K
June – 1 – 2, 3.20, 1.14 WHIP, 25IP/16K
July – 0 – 1, 6.75, 1.84 WHIP, 14IP/9K
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Hard to know if this is just regression or a bad month or blisters or what. His K/9 has been down 2 months in a row, but there hasn’t been anything alarming until recently. Do you make a move given this?
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One point made at DD and other places is that it isn’t just performance by Hill, McCarthy, Maeda and Ryu (inconsistency), but also unreliability. Who will be healthy enough to pitch well come October? This is the risk inherent in a staff manned by the old and infirm.
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I would make the move for the lefty reliever first. Liberatore may not be back this year; Dayton is not reliable and Avilan won’t be used in high leverage situations.
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Does a Yu Darvish or a Sonny Gray make sense? Maybe, but I suspect that you won’t see them wearing Dodger Blue this October. No to Verlander – he hasn’t been good this year. (5 – 7, 4.54, 1.47 WHIP, .256 BAA)
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I think if it’s a good idea to go for Verlander, the playoffs are a very different tournament to the regular season, no matter how well or poorly you played during 162 games, what matters is winning that seventh game to advance to world series. And there is where Verlander needs for his experience, no matter what numbers he has at the moment!
This team is going to qualify to playoffs, so JV can throw only 5 innings and rest enough to be ready to the post season: CLayton K, Alex W, Justin V and Rich H. It would be a great rotation, and I also think that we really need a right handed batter with power, I do not trust Puig in playoffs, I can imagine him failing the first pitch or hitting for double play!
I’ve been wanting Darvish for a while.
But to be honest, he’s had 2 playoff starts. 1 solid, and 1 not so good. So it’s not like we’re getting Madison Bumgarner or anything.
However, I still trust his stuff in the NL for the rest of the year way more than I do McCarthy, Maeda, Ryu, etc.
Darvish running up 97 and 98 mph fastballs in the first inning tonight.
Verlander and Wilson for Alvarez, Maeda, Oaks, Kazmir and Sheffield.
Yasiel Puig – DP Machine!
Did you see what Puig did in his first at bat? First pitch and double play !!
That’s exactly why I do not trust him, that’s exactly why we really NEED A GOOD RIGHT HANDED BATTER!!
Grant Dayton not ready for prime time. Dodgers need LHRP.