Give Me a Hand!

I’m hijacking this thread, but I have a question that I need help on.

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Last of the 9th, tied game, bases loaded and the batter hits a drive down the line and it goes into the stands on one hop. Is it a ground rule double and two runs score, or does only one run score and it is a game winning single? Since 4 runs score on a home run, I would assume it would be a double with two runs, but I have never seen it happen so I am not sure. What is the rule??

I also understand why Mark is talking about Logan now.

That HR that Logan hit last night, was only his 11th extra base hit, in about 169 at bats.

And Joc has about the same amount of at bats, and he has 19 extra base hits!

Logan is the most passive hitter in baseball this year.

Orel brought this up the other night, but Orel brought it up in a positive way, but that article about Logan being a passive hitter, wasn’t a positive spin, about Logan.

It is frustrating when Logan doesn’t protect the plate with two strikes, and he allows himself to get down with two strikes quite a bit.

I know he has done better lately, but he has mostly been a singles hitter, that strikes out, quite a bit, for a singles hitter!

The only problem with trading Logan, is that he does hit lefties better, and it looks like Kike may be regressing a little right now.

I noticed that opposing hitters are hitting 295 against Avilan this year, and that is higher average, then opposing hitters, are hitting against Ryu.

But Avilan is another pitcher in the bullpen, that has no options left.

Maybe they should bring Libertore up, if he is healthy right now.

He was really good for us last year, in the first half of the season.

Mark is right we definitely need another good arm in the bullpen, but the price seems so high for Hand.

And I think Dodgerpatch just might be right about Hand, having a outlier year.

I like AC’s idea, of getting that really good closer that the Orioles have, if that is possible.

If we are going to have to give up so much, why not try to get a better relief pitcher, and give up a little more.

But I am not sure what is out there, and what it will take, but I do think Mark is right, that it will take more, then we would like, to give up!

I also think it would be good to see what Verdugo will do at the major league level, but AC is right, he will have to play everyday, to really see what he can do, at the major league level.

But I don’t know if there is enough room for him to play everyday, on the major league team right now.

I was about to go to bed last night when Puig singled in the 9th. I told myself, Ok this team is special so let’s watch some more. Joc walks and you could just feel the momentum swing over to the Dodgers. We have had many comebacks this year and this one ranks up there towards the top. Rodney melted and couldn’t find the strike zone. The Dodgers patients at the plate is one of the biggest differences this year in my opinion. Turner Ward is worth every penny he earns. Hill was impressive last night which is what I was going to take positive out of last nights game before the big comeback. I’ll still take Hills performance as a positive but now there’s so much more to talk about. If McCarthy doesn’t lay an egg on Saturday, the trade deadline should be focused on relief pitching. Hopefully one more starter can step up before the deadline. Just to put in my two cents, I would not trade Barnes for Hand. SD would make us pay too high of a price for anyone so I would start looking else where. It’s a great time to be a Dodger fan. Lastly, I hope the boys didn’t party too much last night, I would love to beat KC over the next 3 games. GO BLUE……………………………

The Dodgers are rich in talent over all the levels and all of em can’t end up Dodgers. Prolly gonna have to trade some of em, though talented depth is awesome to have. Dodger farm slogan should be Arms R Us. I wouldn’t even pretend to know who or what they need or when. They seem to be muddling along pretty well right now without any advice from the gallery.

Let’s see…Kershaw 7 IP 0 runs, followed by Wood 7 IP 0 runs, followed by Hill 7 IP 1 run. Against the DBacks…not the Padres, not the Reds, not the Phillies, not the Mets, but against the 2nd best team in the NL and 3rd best team in MLB. I know we are not supposed to get euphoric yet, but can we at least acknowledge that the starting pitching might be good, and can go deep (yes 7 innings is deep these days). Can we say we have three solid starters for the playoffs, maybe four? I know I know, Hill, Wood, McCarthy, Maeda, and Ryu are all going to break down, and then it’s Kershaw and who. But just for the moment, can we acknowledge that FAZ has put a very good team together?

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Okay, there are some concerns. The Dodgers do not have any truly reliable LHRP. Who knows where Liberatore is at, or what is wrong with Dayton’s neck. Avilan is a very good 6th inning reliever (but not high leverage). There are some LHRP out there. We know there are some available. Brad Hand and Justin Wilson are solid and available. Maybe Sean Doolittle…18.1 IP, 2 walks, and 27 strikeouts; 20 games and 15 unscored in; 3 HRs (but only 1 since April); 0.764 WHIP. And of course, my hope and dream would be Zach Britton (no rumor…I just want him in the Dodger pen). Felipe Rivero is more untouchable than Zach Britton. I guess that would be called a fantasy. There are multiple RHRP that are available, and you can always have better. But the need is LHRP and the pickings are slim and will be costly. I would bet there will probably be a couple of the LH versions of last year’s pickups Jesse Chavez and Josh Fields. Like Dan Jennings from the White Sox. I still believe Ryu is headed for the bullpen.

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The other concern is RH Power bat. I too like Trayce Thompson, and I agree that he is a very good athlete. But I do not want to see him come to the plate again with the bases loaded in a critical spot. Not SVS either. Taylor and Forsythe are doing exactly what they were acquired for (Taylor even more). Maybe the answer is Verdugo (even though LH), but I would prefer someone more ML tested as we get closer to the playoffs.

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Next week is the ASG and the Marlins will have no reason to keep anyone after that, including Marcell Ozuna. Miami is crying for a Cuban everyday player. They loved Fernandez, but he only pitched every five games, and the seats were packed on those days. They want someone for 81 games. Puig is a natural, and so would be Alveraz, and maybe Omar Estevez. I am being selfish, I want to keep Yusniel Diaz.

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I still think the Dodgers make a play for JD Martinez and Justin Wilson.

Went to bed after 8. Finallly got around to checking this morning as just didn’t feel like reading a recap of last night–WOW what a great morning this is. Coffee is tasting much better!

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I periodically will listen to the opposition feed on Sirius while driving–dodger radio feed is not great here in the evening. If you get a chance to listen to some of the other teams announcers, you’ll never complain about our announcing teams again. It’s pretty grim out there.

If Monday and Kennedy are teamed up I turn the TV sound off and listen to them. What they lack in polish they make up for in professional insights. Otherwise, Joe’s OK. Should just let him go solo or put Rick Monday with him. After all, Rick did saved the Flag from being burned. That counts for something. Though I ain’t no fortunate son… flag burning is not high on my list of ways to protest. Dodgers are amazing this year. Beginning To expect them to come back and win every night. Go Dodgers.

Today at 2pm is the deadline for draft picks to sign. Our top 3 picks are still unsigned.

FAZ should be looking around for upgrades, including Brad Hand type guys, but maybe Brad Hand type guys before they became Brad Hand. I still like how FAZ swooped in and got Alex Wood at the deadline two years ago.

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I think this guy has the right outlook.

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“You can’t force anything”.

I have to admit I went to bed after the 8th inning. I have the MLB package and all games are recorded. I just watched the end this morning. All I can say is wow!! I did go to the other site yesterday and they are not talking about Dodger baseball, they were talking about “pot”. Not all, but some.

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I thought we had inhouse options for left hand relievers. Now I am not sure.

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I agree with you Mark, Verdugo must come up. He has earned the call. I have a feeling he may be very god. Thompson and SVS are not going to make it. I like Thompson very much, but hitting is his problem. If Verdugo comes up, he needs to play. Where does that put Taylor. He certainly needs to play every day. Second base is his best position. But Forsythe is just starting to hit. I guess these are the problems every manager would love.

The Church of Christ Taylor is always accepting new members of the congregation.

Man Mark, I watched Betances give up back to back to back to back (4) walks yesterday, guy has some control issues. From NY Post:

“In his past nine appearances, the four-time All-Star has worked 7 ¹/₃ innings in which he has given up six hits and nine earned runs, walked 14 and struck out 13.”

I like Hand but think the Nats get him with their worst bullpen ERA in baseball and the fact that the Padres would probably demand our entire minor league system as you mentioned.

I am ready for Verdugo as well, call him up!

I’d be surprised if Preller did business with the Dodgers again. He got burned by Friedman in the Kemp for Grandal trade, and I think there was that issue of Preller publicly leaking rumors of Kemp’s physical to try to renegotiate the deal that Friedman wasn’t too please with. And then there’s the old proscription against making trades with rivals within the division.

Hand is good. Hand might be on the upswing of his career if his slider continues to develop. I’m not sure I want to give up those guys for a left handed reliever. There’s that guy who’s the closer for Detroit. He’ll probably be cheaper.

I’m in Wash DC this week, and so last night, by the time the 8th inning rolled around (at like 1am) I figured ‘oh well, 2-3 is good enough for me, and went to bed!!

Great waking up at 3am and seeing the updates on my phone that we did it again. Amazing, yet at 3am, I wasn’t at all shocked that we did it again