SponsorUS Water Systems
LA Dodger Talk

First, Foremost and Always: It is Still a Business

Wednesday the Dodgers announced layoffs across the organization. Right about now, I do not know who has been laid off. I would be surprised if this included anyone in player development and the baseball ops side of things but you never know. Allegedly, the Dodgers have lost over $100 Million in 2020. If you are on the side of labor, you might say that is way overinflated and if you

By Mark Timmons5 min readJump to 102 comments

Wednesday the Dodgers announced “layoffs across the organization.” Right about now, I do not know who has been laid off. I would be surprised if this included anyone in player development and the baseball ops side of things… but you never know. Allegedly, the Dodgers have lost over $100 Million in 2020. If you are on the side of labor, you might say that is way overinflated and if you are on the side of ownership you might say that is just the tip of the iceberg.

I have no clue, but unless you have ever ran you own company, you may not either. I am going to tell you a real life story that may shed some relevance on the current situation.

Here’s the Story

As you may or may not know, my wife and I own US Water Systems. In 2014, one of our competitors tried to buy us. I ignored them until the 4th offer (they call it a Letter of Intent or LOI) , which I could not turn down. I demanded they put up $150,000 cash because were were baring our soul and finances. In 2014, we were about 1/3 the size we are now, but the deal seemed great… at the time.

LONG STORY SHORT: Their intent was to steal all of our intellectual property and eliminate us as a competitor. Because we were going to consolidate our accounting and purchasing departments, I found jobs for our CFO (he’s now the Director of Finance at Indiana University) and our Controller (I got her a job with a friend who runs a non-profit… and she is still there).

We also lost our Operations Manager as he wanted no part of the merger. Well, at the eleventh hour, they tried to change the terms and I told them politely to get screwed. I walked away and we were really in bad financial shape. We lost our Controller, CFO and VP of Operations who were system administrators of new software we had just installed, and it was a disaster! My tax return shows that we lost $496,000.00 that year. However, I was forced to borrow $800,000.00, and since we were in bad financial shape, we had to pay “loan shark interest.” In 18 months we paid back $1.400,000.00!

I am not sure how we did it… but we did! The point is: my tax return said I lost $496,00.00… but I had to play $1,400,000.00 back. Don’t feel sorry for me, It all worked out. We now have no debt and I can look back and laugh at it now. I also kept the $150,000.00. They told me I had to give it back and I replied: “Let’s have a Judge decide!” I ended up hiring two of their key employees and life is good. So, when Stan Kasten says the Dodgers lost more than $100,000,000.00, it may or may not be what their tax return says, but it’s lot.

So, in light of the pandemic and the organizational layoffs, it will not be business as usual this winter. To go out and spend lavishly on free agents would be a slap in the face to the laid off employees.

If I had to bet, I would say that the lineup we saw last year will be pretty much the same in 2021. It’s fun to think about trades and signing free agents, but its mostly fiction. Lindor isn’t coming to LA. DJLM is too old, too expensive and costs prospects… or at least one. Chris Bryant has been on a downward spiral. Josh Hader could be damaged goods and is way too expensive.

All of the Dodger’s Free Agents could be back, none of the Free Agents could be back, or some of the Free Agents could be back. Who really knows? McGee, Baez, Wood, Turner, Kike, and Pederson may find a very lukewarm market. I would think Treinen gets some offers, but you never know. Some may even come back on one-year deals.

I would not be surprised is Justin Turner comes back on a one-year deal that is is the range of $6 million. Hernandez, Pederson and Wood will not get what they received in 2020. The union is going to cry “collusion” but most teams understand that it will be around June before they put butts in seats.

As I write this, Pfizer is seeking emergency authorization to distribute their vaccine ASAP. Once the company files, it would be up to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to decide whether the two-shot vaccine works safely enough to roll out to millions of people. I believe that since it is based upon Messenger RNA technology and the likelihood of side effects is very low that it will be approved in under two weeks! I believe that this is a National Emergency and damage done by lockdowns could exceed the death toll of the disease.

Today the Wall Street Journal reported:

Given the urgency, the FDA is expected to move quickly. The timing of the filing is in line with industry and government officials’ projections for authorization and distribution to begin next month. Pfizer said the filing could allow for distribution to begin by the middle to end of December.

A green light would cap the fastest vaccine development program ever in the West, going from laboratory to authorization in less than a year. Pfizer, which partnered with Germany’s BioNTech in March, has so far spent about $2 billion on the effort.

Then companies, health authorities and physicians would face more daunting tasks: making enough shots to meet demand, distributing them and convincing people to take them.

Health authorities say vaccines, and the protection they provide if enough people receive injections, will be key to allowing people to return to schools, workplaces and other establishments.

The vaccines are critical to resuming a normal life, which includes baseball. I would not be surprised if Spring Training were pushed back to the middle to end of April… but I do believe that we will see baseball with fans in the seats THIS season. In the meantime, this baseball labor situation is going to get real UGLY!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFBuYHldeY

Discussion (102)

Disagree, not disagreeable

Be civil — moderation is real. Links may need a moment of review.

  1. Jorge ValenzuelaNovember 21, 2020

    Dodgers Add 4 To 40-Man Roster

    The Dodgers have added three right-handers – Gerardo Carrillo, Andre Jackson and Edwin Uceta – as well as outfielder Zach Reks to their 40-man roster J.P. Hoornstra of the Southern California News Group tweets.

    Going by MLB.com’s rankings of the Dodgers’ farm system, Jackson is the lone prospect here who sits in the franchise’s top 30. The former 12th-round pick (2017) comes in at No. 27, though he did thrive between Single-A and High-A ball in his most recent minor league action in 2019. Jackson ended the year with a 3.06 ERA and 11.1 K/9 against 4.5 BB/9 in 114 2/3 innings.

    Open on www.mlbtraderumors.comhttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/11/dodgers-add-4-to-40-man-roster.html#comments
  2. MushersPopNovember 21, 2020

    Boras may be a pain to deal with but he did get an extension done with Strasburg (at his request). So if Seager really wants to stay an extension is possible. Perhaps that’s what AF means by being pigs.

  3. peterjNovember 21, 2020

    Why in earth would Seager want to leave L.A.??? We love him here…

    Scott B. too??? A lil 1 hour limo ride to the stadium… Couple of beers and checking on Mr. Seager, JT, Joc and others(?)

    With me, getting to know and see these Dodger kids from many trips to Rancho C. kills me to hear their names rumored daily… Oh well, that sounds like a personal problem… My runs to Philipes for a beef dip and taking the bus up to Blue Heaven for a game has slowly diminished over the years becuz of cost… I got the dough, but as you know these annual player signings cost me the fan a lot… OK no more whining…

    Are the Blue on this S. Korean kid’s list of tryouts yet???

    Just when you think you know stuff about the Blue the postings on LADT take you to school… I copy them all for reading in between my PT adventures…

    I finally felt a lil chink in the armor from Covid this week… I’m going to forgoe my semi annual trip to Oregon and Washington for Thanksgiving and it hurts… Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday… Christmas with all it’s advertising in full swing has lost its appeal to me… Thanksgiving, a great meal with family and friends, friendly chatter with no politics and no pressure on gift giving, some good football… Last but not least, that day after Turkey sandwich on wheat, lil mayo, salt n pepper, turkey, dressing, cranberry and a large bib which watching some great college football….

    That being said, Happy Thanksgiving to all the LADT folks and be safe….

  4. Jorge ValenzuelaNovember 21, 2020

    Looking For A Match In A Nolan Arenado Trade

    I read this in a chat about a possible Arenado trade, and I liked it, it seems very true, I had not thought about it:

    ”Except if he is traded somewhere else, then his Coors stats can be added to his road stats. That would push the numbers up significantly. Which is exactly what the stat does for every player that doesn’t play at Coors.”

    Open on www.mlbtraderumors.comhttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/11/nolan-arenado-trade-rumors-rockies.html#comments
  5. peterjNovember 21, 2020

    Oops, that’s a re-do…

  6. BearNovember 21, 2020

    Wow, Hunter Renfroe was DFA’d today by the Rays. That is a surprise. Not much of a hitter for average, but awesome power and a great arm in RF. 2 former Dodger farm hands added to rosters to protect them from the draft, Connor Wong with the Sox and Yusinel Diaz in Baltimore…..he was part of the Machado trade.

  7. BumsrapNovember 21, 2020

    Friedman knows that Boras can’t be played but it can’t hurt for Friedman to leak that he has heard the rumors surrounding Arenado to fan the rumor mill. Friedman has already stated he wants a big righty bat and the opening is at 3rd base.

    Turner knows of the rumor as well as Boras and Seager. If Boras believes now would be a good time extend Seager maybe the Arenado rumor will nudge the negotiations forward.

    How do you build a $276,000,000 team?

    5 for Rotation: ………………………………………$90M

    4 for Super position players : ………….$112M

    4 for not so Super position players …..$32M

    2 for closer and setup ………………………….$32M

    5 for relievers …………………………………………..$6M

    6 for young position players ………………….$4M

    Benefits included

  8. JRNovember 21, 2020

    Do the Dodgers really only want to get a draft pick for Seager if he walks next year? Offer him the MAX you feel comfortable with. Have a pandemic clause in it if need be. If he’s not willing to sign (what? 10 year 250-300m) then like Cleveland and Lindor, I’m going to try and trade him this winter.

    Arm chair Fantasy GM back at you. Don’t get me wrong. I still want to trade for Snell but today I’m thinking Seager, Ruiz, Pollock and Santana to the Yankees for Aaron Judge and GleyberTorres. Then trade Gavin Lux and minor prospect for Lindor. Play Rios at 3rd or sign JT for 2 years if $ are reasonable.

    RF. Betts

    SS Lindor

    LF. Judge

    CF. Bellinger

    2B. Torres

    1B. Muncy

    C. Smith

    3B. Turner\Rios

    Would still rather trade for Snell.

  9. Singing The BlueNovember 21, 2020

    Fantasy is the key word there JR.

    The only major star the Yankees would get is Seager and he only has one year left on his contract.

    Even though your deal has less than zero chance of happening I do love that lineup. Might very well qualify as the best lineup of all time.

  10. CassidyNovember 21, 2020

    Wow! This is getting wild! Pretty soon the only remaining Dodger in next years lineup will be Betts!

  11. SCDodgerFanNovember 21, 2020

    Why not trade Bellinger & a couple of prospect pitchers to the Angels for Trout? Angels need monetary relief. Dodgers get best player in baseball under contract for many years.

More from Dodger Talk

Dodgers Food Trailer

I did this interview a couple of weeks ago with Chef Mike, who runs the Dodgers Food Trailer for the Great Lakes Loons. They are there for every home and road regular season and playoff game. They prepare three meals a day for approximately 50 people (players and coaches). Since games end late most evenings, they do not prepare breakfast. Many of their hotels have a complimentary breakfast anyway. However,…

By Mark Timmons · July 17, 202673

Meet LAD 2026 Draft Picks 1-12

3 picks were High School players (2 SS and 1 OF). There was a college OF, college catcher, college SS, and 10 college pitchers. Of all the talk for a need for a catcher, the only catcher the Dodgers selected was Luke Bard, son of LAD bullpen coach Josh Bard. Bard was a 4th year senior from Houston Christian University. He is not a prospect, so the Dodgers are still…

By Jeff Dominique · July 16, 202674

Interview with Paul Beachy – Team Bus Driver For The Great Lakes Loons (LA Dodgers Minor League Team)

It’s been a few days since I did this interview. We have evidently been working my son-in-law (the video guy) like a rented mule at US Water Systems. However, I am taking him to London with me in a few days, so maybe Watford will buy him a pint as a tip, but he’s a dang Red Sox fan, so there is that! I thought that it would be interesting…

By Mark Timmons · July 15, 202652

Thanks for Your Service: Chris Taylor

I was going to do this post when Chris announced he was retiring, then he changed his mind, but since the chances of him ever playing for the Dodgers again are slim and non-existent, I will go ahead with this post. He unretired, went on the IL, then decided to call it quits on May 24th. Taylor was born in Virginia Beach VA on August 29th, 1990. He attended Great…

By Michael "Bear" Norris · July 14, 202676