Do You Still Not Get it?
DISCLAIMER : If this does not apply to you, don’t sweat it! When Andrew Friedman took over as President of the Dodgers, he made several moves that most Dodgers fans mocked and ridiculed, such as signing Brett Anderson, Brandon McCarthy, and Scott Kazmir. They mocked the trade of…

DISCLAIMER: If this does not apply to you, don’t sweat it!
When Andrew Friedman took over as President of the Dodgers, he made several moves that most Dodgers fans mocked and ridiculed, such as signing Brett Anderson, Brandon McCarthy, and Scott Kazmir. They mocked the trade of Dee Gordon and then went Bat-Shit Crazy over the trade of Matt Kemp and FedEx for Yasmani Grandal and others. Fast forward a little, and many of you also lost your mind when Friedman completed the Kyle Farmer Trade. “That was just a salary dump.” I said, “Watch and learn, little boys.”
Some of you are the guys who bitterly ridiculed and complained when Andrew Friedman signed or traded for Andrew Heaney, Tyler Anderson, Trayce Thompson, and others of similar stature. Remember when you lost your mind when Friedman traded Dylan Floro for someone you have never heard of named Alex Vesia and a youngster named Kyle Hurt? Vesia has way outperformed Floro, and Kyle Hurt has a world of potential. You were also appalled when Friedman traded away Adam Kolarek. Ha! Ha! I am not saying you are dumb… but you may just have bad luck when it comes to thinking.
Now you have started back up again as Friedman has traded for Joey Gallo while trading away Mitch White and Jake Lamb. I don’t know why, but I frequently underestimate the potential for Dodger fans to fail to understand that Andrew Friedman is playing chess while they are playing checkers… or tiddly-winks.
Some fans just have no clue. Before the season, Keith Law said that the Dodgers Farm System was “Hilarious” (because it was better than anyone else). He rated it Number One. Now, at Midseason, Keith Law comes out with his TOP 60 MLB Prospects, and as I reported earlier this week, Diego Cartaya is #4 (up from #13 in the pre-season), Bobby Miller is #26 (up from #50), whom Law says has “the best pure stuff of any starter in the minors.” Then there is Gavin Stone at #32 (previously unranked) whom Law says “Is banging on the door of a big-league rotation right now.” At #34 (up from #62) is Miguel Vargas, about whom Law states the following:
Vargas just keeps on hitting, with a .294/.385/.504 line so far in Triple A as a 22-year-old, making a ton of hard contact and hitting all pitch types. He’s still more of a contact/doubles hitter than a big power guy, although that can change quickly when you have the hard contact skill (especially when you’re a Dodger), and he’s probably not going to stay at third in the long term. There’s a chance he gets to 25-plus homers, though, and a chance he stays at third; it’s just more likely he’s a high-average 20ish homer guy at first who’s an above-average regular for a long time.
In the Top 34 MLB Prospects, the Dodgers, who always draft at the end of the round, have four of the top 34 prospects. Chew on that for a minute. Vargas was called up a few days ago, and you saw what he could do. James Outman is already on the team. I’m just going to cut to the chase and tell you that if you think Andrew Friedman got a “swing and miss” yesterday, you must be intellectually incapable of grasping what Friedman has done, is doing, and will continue to do. Andrew Friedman was, is, and will be “Building the Monster.”
The Dodgers will be in the running for the World Series Every Year. You can’t do that by trading the farm every few years and then having to rebuild. If you think that “Soto and Bell would have allowed us to rival the 1927 Yankees and chase the all-time wins record of 116,” You are simply a child playing an adult game. Andrew Friedman is doing it the way the 1927 Yankees did it. They didn’t sell the farm every few years; they grew their own players and made occasional trades to strengthen the team.
In case you live on another planet, the Dodgers are the best and winningest team in MLB Baseball right about now. If it’s important to win 116 games, then go root for some other team. The Dodger intend to compete for a World Series title every year, not win one in 2019 as the Nats did – only to fade into oblivion the next year. The only way you can sustain that kind of a streak is to build the best damn farm system in baseball and allow it to produce.
I predict that AJ Preller will be looking for a job in two years. Trading the farm and signing expensive free agents is not the path to MLB success… it’s the path to destruction. Andrew Friedman has built and is continuing to build a sustainable model. Juan Soto is a talented player, but the players the Dodgers would have had to trade for Soto are collectively more talented… even if a single one does not put up Soto numbers. AJ Preller is as entertaining as he is ignorant of how to build a monster! Sure, Padres ownership wants to win NOW. RIGHT NOW!
Behind all of this is Peter Seidler, the grandson of Walter O’Malley and the nephew of Peter O’Malley. Peter is driven to win a World Championship for San Diego at all costs. AJ Preller may be the “Mad Scientist,” but Peter Seidler, the namesake of Peter O’Malley, is the “Willing Checkbook“. It’s never spoken of, but there is lingering resentment within the O’Malley and Seidler families about losing the Dodgers and not being able to buy them back. Some believe there may be a rift in the family and that Peter wants to put his imprimatur on the Padres. Peter O’Malley is not listed as an owner in most media. Power and the desire for recognition drive people… sometimes it drives them to make bad decisions. Peter Seidler is a two-time cancer survivor, and building a farm system may not seem to be prudent to him. I get it, but unless he is incredibly lucky, this is not the way you build a sustainable winner.
The Dodgers have won one World Championship under Andrew Friedman and should have won another but for the cheating ASStericks! They are the favorite again this year … EVEN AFTER THE PADRES ACQUIRED SOTO, HADER, DRURY & OTHERS. Josh Hader is was feared before July when he put up a 12.54 ERA and a 2.250 WHIP. These are real numbers. Craig Kimbrel was called upon to be ousted by Dodgers fans for his July, which showed a 4.91 ERA and 1.546 WHIP. Those numbers, while not good, make Craig look like an All-Star compared to Hader.
Juan Soto is a stud – no doubt, but so was Cody Bellinger. Fame is fleeting, and the game of baseball is hard. We will see how trading for him works out. I predicted that Andrew Fredman would not sell the farm… and he didn’t. That was the right move.
- Miguel Vargas will be an All-Star.
- Diego Cartaya is a “generational player” (whoever thinks he can’t stay at Catcher has never seen him play). The Defense will continue to improve, but the bat plays anywhere!
- Bobby Miller has a high ceiling and a low floor. He is high risk – high reward, but guys with that talent have to get a chance. At best, he’s an Ace. At worst, he’s out of baseball.
- Gavin Stone is ready right now to contribute, whether it be as a starter or in the bullpen.
- Ditto with Ryan Pepiot.
- Mike Busch is a guy who will be an occasional All-Star
- Andy Pages seems to have stalled, but watch out, he is coming!
At least half of those guys (probably more) would have to have been included in the Soto deal. You can’t get rid of that kind of talent and expect to continue to be successful. Watch the Padres and Learn! No one expected anything out of Justin Turner, Chris Taylor, Trayce Thompson, or Max Muncy… and most of you expect nothing out of Joey Gallo, who, at worse, is a Gold Glove outfielder who can play all three spots with a rifle arm. The Dodgers saw something, and they think they can rehabilitate him (the Yanks think the same about Clayton Beeter). However, for every Turner, Taylor, Thompson, and Muncy, there is a Sheldon Neuse, Tyler White, and Jedd Gyorko – they just don’t hang around long.
Joey Gallo seemed to be an unusual pickup to me … at first, but the logic is Low Risk, High Reward. Joey averages a HR every 13 ABs. So does Edwin Rios, but Rios is not a Gold Glove Outfielder and a good baserunner. The worst case is that James Outman takes his place at the end of August. The best case is that he hits at the bottom of the lineup and adds 15 HR in August and September. If they truly see something “fixable” in his swing, it’s worth a try.
I predicted that Clayton had another IL Stint in him, and the best thing the Dodgers could do is shut him down until early September. Pepiot and Stone are both better than Mitch White – both could be in the rotation SOON. Bring it! Dustin May will be back any day as well.
- Urias
- Anderson
- Gonsolin
- Heaney
- Pepiot
- Stone
- May
That’s enough… Kershaw and maybe Buehler will return later.
Andrew Friedman’s best move was not making any dope fiend moves. Don’t be a dope-fiend fan! Craig Kimbrel was the closer on the 2018 Red Sox team that won the World Series, but Kelly and Eovaldi closed most games in the Series. Don’t get hung up on one guy! This team has been the best team in baseball all year, and it is going to get better. Watch and learn!
Future Dodgers Down on the Farm
- OKC lost 8-7 to Salt Lake
- Mike Busch hit his 23rd HR
- Dellin Betances pitched a scoreless inning, allowing a walk and striking out a batter.
- Mark Washington did the same in 1.2 IP.
- Tulsa beat NW Arkansas by two touchdowns and a safety (23-7)
- Every position in the lineup had at least 2 hits, except CF, as Jeren Kendall lowered his BA to .169. He cannopt jump out of a boat and hit water.
- Jonny DeLuca was 3-6 with 4 Runs Scored and 3 RBI (.313 BA/1.005 OPS). He also hit his 25th HR on the season.
- Ryan Ward was 3-6 with 4 RBI, and he hit his 27th HR on the season.
- Andy Pages was 4-6 with 3 Runs scored and 3 RBI.
- Brandon Lewis was 2-6 and raised his BA to an even .200.
- Leonal Valera was 2-6 with 4 RBI.
- Great Lakes beat Lake County 5-4
- Damon Keith started his first game at GL by going 2-5 with his 13th HR to go with 66 RBI for the season. He is hitting .301/.432 OB%/.939 Slg%. He only has 408 Minor League at-bats and is in my Top 15 already.
- Jose Ramos was 1-3 with his 16th HR and 2 RBI.
- Nick Nastrini went six innings and allowed 4 Hits, 3 ER, and 2 BBs while striking out 8.
- Ryan Sublette pitched the final two innings and got the win (5-1). He allowed no hits or runs but walked three while striking out 4.
- I don’t know what to think about 24-year-old Imanol Vargas. He has 15 HR and is hitting .280 with a .436 OB% and a .940 OPS. I guess I have to see what he does at Tulsa.
- Rancho Cucamonga beat Inland Empire 4-1.
- Dalton Rushing made his debut with the Quakes on Wednesday and was hitless. Last night he hit cleanup and was 2-3 with his 1st Professional HR.
- Nick Biddison (Pick 135) made his professional debut in this series as well.
- Chris Alleyne (Pick 585) already has 12 ABs and is hitting .333.
- Kyle Nevin and Michael McClain also made their debuts.
- Taylor Young was 1-4 (Pick #255)
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Discussion (68)
Disagree, not disagreeable
So what if the Padres win a world series or two in the next 3 years will these still be bonehead moves? Even if they return to being irrelevant I think any Padre fan would take that given what they’ve been through. People need to stop comparing the Dodgers to the Padres they are two different animals. Dodgers are built for longevity which is ideal obviously but the Padres will never compete if they don’t make moves like they did even if it’s for a shorter window. They could also sign Soto long-term (not out of the question at all) and then they would have 2 young studs to build around for the next 10+ years. I think they are in a better spot than a lot of you are giving them credit for. Their plan all along was to horde prospects and then trade them for Superstars. It’s literally the only way they can compete with us. Still glad we didn’t trade the farm for Soto, I think depth is super important but in a 5 game series between Dodgers and Padres it’s now a coinflip basically and if I’m a Padre fan that’s all I can ask for.
Please god no Pedro Baez! Like watching grass grow. Not a Kapler fan , but I was impressed yesterday how he stood up for his player. Would love to see more of that from roberts. Dodgers begin tonight with a 14 game lead in the loss column, so unless we get swept this series division is a done deal! I really believe Vargas should get more at bats than gallo . He will be much more valuable in playoffs. I get gallo is a very good defensive player but how many swing and miss guys do we need. Lastly, can’t count the number of times I listened to vin scully on the radio when the game was on tv. There will never be another one like him! Those Sunday afternoon s on my patio were so nice. I live in Virginia , dodger fan over 60 years. My 2 sons took me to dodger stadium in 2018 for my 60th birthday. The dodgers gave me a jersey with 60 & my name , it’s one of my prized possessions I met Tommy lasorda, Ron cey and don newcomb. Wanted to meet vin but missed him. Let’s go Dodgers!
Mark, nice analysis post trade deadline. I agree about Preller’s most likely failed attempt to keep the Padres relevant. I don’t get why he doesn’t look up North to observe and learn what the most successful organization in the last decade is doing to reach that stature.
I hadn’t realized that Preller has been with the team since 2014. The Padres had built up a nice farm system up until a couple of years ago and then the prospects got moved or didn’t pan out. He signed Hosmer to an overvalued contract thinking that the team would need some veteran players to go with all the young stars they were developing. Look how that turned out. A Carl Crawford experience. Wil Myers has one good season and immediately Preller overpays with a contract that he has been trying to unload before the ink dried. Now with the addition of Soto, Drury, and Bell to the offense along with a slumping Machado and still to start rehab Tatis will it be enough to be successful in the playoffs? They added Hader who has had a terrible July by any standards and traded their closer Rogers. So, addition by subtraction? Preller adds no additional starting pitching and replaces his closer. That usually is not the way to construct a team for a championship. In the postseason it’s pitching, pitching, and more pitching. Look North.
I wasn’t wanting Soto for the cost I was reading that it would take to get him. And with some reports saying Corbin had to be included as well. Ah, no thanks (Price). Enough of bailing out teams with their bad contracts. It appears that for the Dodgers to make a significant trade in the future they are going have to overpay with more and better prospects. The days of teams accepting lower tier Dodger prospects are over. This started with the Scherzer, Turner trade last year. Top two prospects. I couldn’t see AF repeating that scenario again this year. Even for the talented Soto. I don’t know what the trade simulator calculated the Soto trade, but it seemed to me that Washington got a lot of talented A and AA prospects and an injured, once highly regarded pitcher. For the Dodgers to trade all those MLB prospects along with Lux and then have to sign Soto long term it’s was too much. I’d rather sign Trea long term and keep the prospects. As Mark stated, as a collective group (including Turner) they will be better in the long run than Soto alone. And more affordable.
*The Gallo trade I still don’t get. His negatives are career long as opposed to a season or so. Sure, he may be a GG caliber OF, but I don’t like all the K’s that come with him. We have that aspect of the game right now with Cody, Max, and soon to be returning CT3. Last night was a preview of what we’re going to get.
*It looks like Max is sticking his head out of the dark hole and like what he sees. Hopefully, he will build on that. His swing and timely look better. But, we’ve seen that a couple of times this season.
*With a lefty going tonight for SD it should be Vargas time. I really like his presence while hitting. Confident without the Tatis cockiness. Has it been mentioned as to who decided for him to steal third? It hard to believe it came from the bench and even more unbelievable he did it on his own. Did anyone from the press had ask DR about it after the game.
*Mark, I think some solid predictions on the future Dodgers. That future looks bright and should be fun to watch.
Carry on.
I can’t argue with most of this. I’m glad we didn’t give up the entire farm as the Padres did in order to get Soto. They really emptied the tank and still lost to the Rockies, at home, with their ace on the bump. Ouch! That’s gotta hurt. Soto and Bell each had two hits. Maybe it would have been a different outcome had Tatis been in the lineup.
Hopefully Gallo, turns it around like Trayce Thompson did. But man, the dude looks like a ballplayer. A football player that is. The Niners lost their tight end with an ACL injury. Maybe Gallo should put on 20 Lbs and go help them out if he can’t find his bat. He already looks like Adonis in a baseball uniform.
Kershaw’s back flared up again. Time for a month-long trip to the IL. Hopefully he can come back with a vengeance just in time for the home stretch. We all knew this was a possibility when he resigned this offseason. Fortunately, the Dodgers already have too many pitchers and can absorb this kind of unfortunate event. Man, I wish he would have gone under the knife all those years ago when he first hurt his back. What could have been?
Outman has 6 hits in 14 ABs, good for a 462 batting average. He also has 7 K’s! He started off really strong, but now he’s headed in the wrong direction. Good first callup, it won’t be his last. He could click, or he can flame out. But, there’s no doubt that Vargas is the real deal. I was disappointed that he wasn’t in the lineup yesterday.
Other than the homer in his first game, Chris Martin has been outstanding. He just might be a real steal.
The bullpen has their work cut out for them with Kershaw going down. They had to pick up 5 innings yesterday and the starting pitchers aren’t going very deep before Kershaw’s injury. A tired-looking Gonsolin is up next in a pressure-packed start against the re-tooled Padres to start the series tonight and 75-pitch Heaney is starting on Saturday. Tyler Anderson went just 5 innings last time out, hopefully, he can rebound. The Padres will counter with Manaea, Clevinger, and Darvish. Will the Dodgers let Heaney go a little further and risk injury?
This is going to be such a fun series to watch. We better stay hot, or it’s going to be miserable on this site. With 2 days off next week, we probably don’t need to call up Pepiot and use another option on him. May lines up to make his debut against the Brewers on the 15th of August.
The dog days are here and Roberts seems to be resting his players with a comfy lead in the division, in all of baseball for that matter. We’re on a hot streak even with a Red-Hot JT going on the IL and it looks like Muncy might have turned the corner. Please don’t platoon Vargas. Let’s see what he can do. Now is a good time for the top of the lineup to get hot and show the Padres who’s boss.
The matchup I want to see most this weekend is Vargas vs Hader. It’s going to be a long day waiting for this series to start.
Patch’s favorite team is now 4 games under 500. Why can’t they just be good? Maybe Farhan isn’t the genius everyone thought he was. In his first year, his team finished with a 475 winning percentage, 483 in the short season, then what looks like a BALCO resurgence to 660 last year. Now, he’s sitting at 481 with 6 teams ahead of his in the Wild Card race even with an additional Wild Card added this year. He hasn’t improved the farm system and has an aging team. He’s a stats guy, he doesn’t seem to see the big picture.
Watching Gabe Kapler meltdown and get kicked out was a highlight for me. He was an underachiever as a player and is an underachiever as a manager. But, he walks around like he owns the place, and has done nothing to justify the sort of confidence he exudes. It’ll catch up to him at some point.
Mark –
Thanks for the background and your insights on AF and his management strategy. I think you may have correctly identified the driving factor of the Padre ownership group namely Peter Siedler, namesake of Peter O’Malley – “there is a lingering sentiment of resentment within the O’Malley and Seidler families about losing the Dodgers and not being able to buy them back.” The name of the San Diego ownership group is the “O’Malley Group!” I am sure it is not a coincidence….
I’m looking forward to seeing if Vargas gets a shot to play 3b to see how his defense is.
It seems that SF is already running out of patience with Zaidi, maybe he and Preller will have to start looking for work together soon. While the Dodgers will be enjoying the parade after winning the World Series…
That would be hilarious to watch!
And speaking of the bullpen, why not give Dellin Betances or Pedro Báez a chance? They have experience, they could help give the starters some rest, there is too much advantage over SD…