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Right now, the Padres look better, but of course that can change. The Padres have the better bullpen. The Padres seem very good defensively. The Dodger defense looks shaky, very shaky. The Padres’ defense is top of the class, the Dodgers’ defense, not so much. The bullpen will not hold up over 162 games. Roberts will wear out the rest of the bullpen. Dave Roberts just does what he is

By Mark Timmons5 min readJump to 58 comments
  • Right now, the Padres look better, but of course that can change.
  • The Padres have the better bullpen.
  • The Padres seem very good defensively.
  • The Dodger defense looks shaky, very shaky.
  • The Padres’ defense is top of the class, the Dodgers’ defense, not so much. 
  • The bullpen will not hold up over 162 games.
  • Roberts will wear out the rest of the bullpen.
  • Dave Roberts just does what he is told.
  • Best BP in baseball? Hardly ……….. KJ can’t go on back-to-back nights, Treinen can’t get people out, Graterol looks horrible, Gonzales doesn’t know where the strike zone is, Price looks done and Nelson should get his DFA tomorrow.

Those are all quotes from this site over the past couple of days. No names will be mentioned to protect the _________________ (you fill in the blank). Most… if not all of that is just silly drivel and knee-jerk reactions. It’s way too early to proclaim that Rios or Beaty is crap. In fact, I am going to address each and every claim above – which are opinions, but opinions based upon a very small sampling. Opinions are also like… well nevermind!

  • Right now, the Padres look better, but of course that can change.Look at the standings. Nuff said!
  • The Padres have the better bullpen.Who decided that? 20+ games into the season and we know?
  • The Padres seem very good defensively.Most errors in MLB! Wrong!
  • The Dodger defense looks shaky, very shaky. Your opinion…. not fact!
  • The Padres’ defense is top of the class, the Dodgers’ defense, not so much. Even Ray Charles can see otherwise!
  • The bullpen will not hold up over 162 games.From a person who said the bullpen would not hold up last year.
  • Roberts will wear out the rest of the bullpen.World Champion! Sour grapes!
  • Dave Roberts just does what he is told.So Andrew Friedman is the idiot? The facts say otherwise! Very Weak!
  • Best BP in baseball? Hardly ……….. KJ can’t go on back-to-back nights, Treinen can’t get people out, Graterol looks horrible, Gonzales doesn’t know where the strike zone is, Price looks done and Nelson should get his DFA tomorrow.Yeah, one game proves all that. LOL!

Last night’s game was a great game with two heavyweights going back and forth and it had an ending we did not like. That much is true. The Dodgers are still not hitting on all cylinders. We have some players injured and some out of sync. We have some pitchers learning and adjusting to their new bullpen roles. Yet, the Dodgers are 15-7 and have the largest run differential in baseball. Predictably, many fans are calling for Dave Roberts head on a platter, because of course, when a player (hitter or pitcher) doesn’t execute, we all know it is the managers fault! Somehow it all comes back to the guy who just won a World Championship. WOW!

I was hoping that the Dodgers would have won last night and split the series, but I guess that is too much to hope for. We are 22 games into the season and everything is a small sampling. The bullpen is a work in progress. Jimmy Nelson and David Price are pitching in new roles. The fact that they have not been perfect should not be surprising. It is still early. You can blame it on the bullpen, but the real problem was the hitting… or lack thereof! The Dodgers left a total of 42 runners on base! 42! They should have won the game by 10 runs.

Yes, the Padres won the game and the series, but did you know that they had just one extra-base hit? Tatis’s Home run! There is a degree of luck involved in baseball, which is why you cannot make proclamations after 22 games. As you get to the 50 or 60 game mark, you start to get the picture. Blame it on whatever – Doc, the bullpen, whatever, but the real problem is the lack of timely hitting. Mookie is playing but is not right. Cody is not playing. McKinstry and Lux are injured and CT3 is still dinged. Rios does look lost, but sending him down now may not have the effect you want. Raley and Noisy are green and Beaty is slumping.

This is baseball. Paul Goldschmidt is hitting .241 (.634 OPS) and Nolan Arenado is hitting .253 (.739 OPS) for the Cardinals. That proves both of them are bums and their manager is an idiot, using the reasoning many of you are applying to the Dodgers. Liam Hendriks has a 4.82 ERA – send him back to AAA! Alex Colome’s ERA is 5.63 while Rasiel Iglesias is at 6.75 (I did predict that, but it’s early). Craig Kimbrel is lights-out! My guess is that most of that will change. This is baseball. I am sure you have watched it before. Do not take leave of your senses… especially after just 22 games. 5 out of 4 people struggle with math, but I think that means there are 140 games left!

Andrew Friedman is building a bullpen for the playoffs. That bullpen will likely include Tony Gonsolin, maybe Joe Kelly, maybe Mitch White and several others. I saw a lot of good in Jimmy Nelson yesterday. Give him time. Ever Garrett Cleavinger got my attention with his 97 MPH heater. Bullpens take time to build. What looks to be the best today can crumble tomorrow. Watch and see! By the way, I would not be surprised to see Mitch White tonight!

Let’s Dial Down the Chippiness!

Can we agree to disagree without attacking each other? That is not a question. It is an order! Quit trying to “one-up” the other guy! Make your points but keep it civil.

We Have the Technology

So maybe we don’t call all balls and strikes electronically, but what about a half-dozen challenges a game? It’s immediate and does not slow down the pace of play. They could implement it immediately.

Don’t Worry…

Discussion (58)

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  1. Singing The BlueApril 26, 2021

    Has anyone seen Jorge? He’s been silent for the whole series.

    The rest of you can blame poor bullpen execution or poor hitting for the 3-1 outcome, but I’m afraid I have to lay this at the feet of Jorge. Before the series started he wished injury on the opposition. I warned him about karma.

    Karma is more powerful than baseball talent.

    Do not wish ill health on opponents. It will come back to bite you in the ass.

    All kidding aside, this was a great series. Yes, we came out on the losing end but we’re still in first place. If the rest of the season is as intense as April has been, baseball will be all the better for it.

  2. Jim NielsenApril 26, 2021

    I am not a Roberts hater and think he does a fantastic job with communicating with the players and getting them to play hard. However I thought he made a couple of poor choices last night. Pinch hitting Peters for Raley because righty/lefty thing in the bottom of the 8th inning didn’t seem right but he may have done that move in the top of the 9th for defense anyway. To me the biggest problem was pinch hitting Ríos for Neuse in the bottom of the 9th inning in a tie game. Ríos was your last positional player left and you had to realize that the game may go into extra innings and you had the pitcher’s spot hitting #6 which would allow the Padres to pitch around the 4th and 5th hitters which they did do. Ríos was needed if the game went into extra innings. Plus everyone can see Ríos is struggling mightily with one hit all year, a dribbler 60 feet down the third base line. Neuse had 4 hits in his last 3 games with 2 homers and 2 outs hit over 100 mph. Absolutely crazy to weaken your team like that and my son and I both said so at the time.

  3. dodgerpatchApril 26, 2021

    I get this feeling that Roberts (and by extension AF, because we all know he’s just a sock puppet ;)) doesn’t have a real sense of urgency about the regular season. It’s as if it’s all a big long Spring Training in preparation for the playoffs. I think he’s ok just coasting into the playoffs, and maybe putting in a little effort to get home field advantage, but otherwise it’s a case of tweaking a little of this, letting a pitcher work out some issues there, letting a player play through a slump, etc. It’s not a terrible way to approach things, because playoff baseball is just completely different, the season is long and workloads need to be managed, but there’s a danger of creating a culture of complacency with losing.

    I still don’t really get the story with Graterol. So apparently he didn’t throw at all from the end of the playoffs until late, meaning he missed all of Spring Training, and now he’s being put in high leverage situations and he’s been whacked. I’m confused. Was he injured? Did he just not feel like throwing? What? I mean, his velocity is there, but clearly there were some things he needed to work on last year. He’s very similar do Dustin May. Both have elite velocity and that crazy sinker ball movement, but both have had issues with translating their stuff into swings and misses – and strikeouts. May has taken a big jump in his K/9% and has worked on his command and incorporating his curveball and cutter into his pitch sequencing, and he now strikes out batters at a K/9% of 13.50 , which is tied for 6th in baseball.

    May has put in some work and has taken a big step in his game. Graterol has not, and it’s costing the team. This is what perplexes me about the game. You’d think that at this level, there would be a consistent off-season training program and more coaching collaboration between the team’s coaches and the players, but apparently it’s still pretty laissez faire. Guys like Bauer work their tails off in the off-season with outfits like Driveline, but it’s completely on their own. Kershaw apparently didn’t work as hard this off-season, but for him it’s probably just as much about managing workload over the course of an entire year.

    Nevertheless, baseball is a profession that should be year round, at the very least to stay in consistent remote contact with coaches and devising ways to remotely measure workload and monitor pitching and training over the course of an off-season. The fact that the Dodgers are paying Joe Kellly 8 million dollars, he shows up to Spring Training and immediately his arm starts hurting indicates a problem to me. Spring Training is a preparation for the season, but a player ought to show up PREPARED for Spring Training. This kind of stuff should be implemented as an organization and there should be contract stipulations , IMO.

    Speaking of Dustin May, his curveball is very good, and that’s starting to become his out pitch. He’s mixing in a cutter effectively, too. There’s just something weird about the shape of that sinker that allows right handers to square up on it if it’s in the strike zone. It works when a right hander is looking for something else and he comes in and jams him, which is what happened to Machado once when his bat shattered. I’m just a fan on the internet and know nothing about coaching pitching, but I’m still confused why May doesn’t throw a four seamer high in the zone more. When looking at heat maps of his pitches in the zone, that inside upper quadrant is almost completely neglected by May, mostly because of the shape of his sinker that he mostly throws. If he could command a four seamer with some rising action, and the spin rate he generates with his other pitches suggest he could, throwing that pitch high and tight would terrify batters looking for the tailing action of that 98 MPH two seamer.

    May and Blake Snell have nearly identical inning pitched so far and identical K/9%. May has a much better ERA and has been the better pitcher so far.

    The starting pitcher with the highest ERA in baseball is our old friend, Madison Bumgarner. BWAHA.

  4. jon FeltsApril 26, 2021

    Why didn’t Kershaw bunt ?

  5. MushersPopApril 26, 2021

    Some observations;

    The calling of balls/strikes seems to be the worst I can remember. I actually have to now wait and see what is called as I can no longer believe what I see. I can only imagine how confused the players are ( from both teams). This is a systemic problem for which there is no easy answer (electronic b/s is not ready for prime time although one could argue it couldn’t be any worse then what we are witnessing).

    Peter’s is not ready for prime time. MLB pitchers have exposed a big hole in his swing.

    Beaty I think is starting to come around but the rest of the Dodger OF depth is very suspect.

    As Mark mentioned, Rios is lost. He’s hitting around 100. Of course if he reverts to his mean he will have one crazy couple of weeks hitting. Hope this happens but I am very skeptical. He’s had around 45 at bats. What he does over the next 45 at bats will dictate what the Dodgers need to do.

    Cleavinger got the loss but was the best relief pitcher for the Dodgers last night. If Price is out for awhile it would be good to see what he can do.

    Price evidently had some hamstring issue which is why he only pitched one inning.

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