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Well, the horse is dead and I won t beat it (very long), but I think Andrew Freidman made a mistake in letting Yimi Garcia walk when he could have been signed for about $1.1 million and if he was going to let him go, why didn t he do it two weeks ago and put Jordon Sheffield on the 40-man? I know that that AF is not perfect, but this move

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Well, the horse is dead and I won’t beat it (very long), but I think Andrew Freidman made a mistake in letting Yimi Garcia walk when he could have been signed for about $1.1 million… and if he was going to let him go, why didn’t he do it two weeks ago and put Jordon Sheffield on the 40-man? I know that that AF is not perfect, but this move and the lack of adding Sheffield looks pretty dumb to me.

Maybe I am missing something. It could be that he thinks Yimi needs a change of scenery, but that still begs the question: Why now? Sheff will likely get nabbed in the Rule 5 Draft and keeping Yimi for two weeks is the reason. Puzzling… to say the least… I just call it the way I see it and right now, it doesn’t look good. I would have kept Garcia over Alexander… but that’s just me.

AF will likely sign a few bullpen reclamation projects… most not of the caliber of Yimi, but there are a number of arms out there. Let’s look at a few that intrigue me:

  • Aaron Sanchez – He has 4 pitches and amid-to-high 90’s fastball and except for 2016, has been a failure as a starter. I would look at him in the bullpen. Of course, this is predicated upon his buying in.
  • Taijuan Walker – Another live arm, but never got it going as a starter. Kind of the same deal as Sanchez.
  • Kevin Gausman – Add another one to this above list. I think he should move to the bullpen. Will he “buy-in?” That’s the question.
  • Tyler Anderson – He’s a LH’er and has looked pretty bad as a starter. Actually, he has good command and I believe his fastball velocity would tic up to 93-94 in the bullpen.
  • Blake Treinen – In 2018, he was simply devastating and the best reliever in all of baseball. He’ll be in demand and will likely cost the Dodgers more than the others… but he is probably worth the risk.

There are many other “reclamation projects” but not many with the stuff of Yimi Garcia. Maybe the Dodgers think Yimi is damaged goods (between the ears)? This brings me to the final bullpen arm I want to talk about: Josh Hader. I know he said (tweeted) some stupid stuff when he was a teenager. Teenagers tend to do that. I have heard that he is not that guy anymore, but I am sure the Dodgers can figure it out. He has 4 more years of control and is arguably one of the Top 3 Bullpen Arms in the game.

Gavin Lux was born in Kenosha, Wisconson, just down the road from Milwaukee. While I do not see him as a SS for the Dodgers, he would be an improvement over Urias, who could slide to 2B or 3B. I think if the Dodgers want Hader, the conversation starts with Lux. One player is not going to get it done. A hometown could seal the deal. Top Prospect It may take Peters and Carrillo as well. I am not big on trading the farm, but I would, in this case, I would trade Lux, Peters, and Carrillo for 4 years of Josh Hader. This would be a game-changer.

It turns out the Dodgers have met with Strasburg and are also courting Cole. Get one of them signed along with Donaldson and they are locked and loaded. Hader makes the bullpen great and he will cost a lot! You have to pay for a player like this… in fact, they may want another pitcher. I won’t pretend to know how Milwaukee values the Dodger prospects, but I think a deal can be made.

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  1. DodgerfanDecember 3, 2019

    I don’t think it’s a good idea to include Peters and lux in the same deal for Hader.

  2. SoCalBumDecember 3, 2019

    I am surprised that Garcia was non-tendered, but not disappointed that Sheffield was not added. He has never lived up to his potential as a first round draft pick. Last season he walked 43 batters in 55 innings pitched.

  3. JeffDecember 3, 2019

    Mark,

    Talking about Yimi is small potatoes if indeed the Dodgers can nab Hader. If I’m Milwaukee, I wouldn’t do your trade. You’ve got a young reliever in Hader who has proven he’s got what it takes to be a game changer in the MLB. Lux has not proven anything, yet. His slide in the 23 games he has played has left more questions than answers. He may or may not be a star in this league. It’s a toin coss. Lux, Peters, & Carillo is a robbery. This would open up 2B for Muncy to prove once and for all that he belongs as a starter. Do it, FO, if you can!

  4. IdahoalDecember 3, 2019

    We have to have either Strasberg or Cole. We need that second ace. Then plug in Kershaw, May, and Urias. I do not like giving up Lux. Why not give up Maeda, Stripling, Joc and Carrillo for Hader. Three starters and a prospect for one bull pen pitcher.

    I would swap Turner and Muncy. Muncy is a very good athlete. He can play third. Turner playing first will extend his life as a baseball player. Now you may want to keep Taylor and Kike to sub in the infield.

    I think Peters is still a good prospect and we need to keep him.

  5. rudybyrdDecember 3, 2019

    It’s not like Hader was a 14-15 y.o. when he posted his hate. He was 17-18, really not that long ago. He only apologized because the tweets surfaced. Not everyone growing up in a small town is a POS racist like this guy.

    “During the 2018 MLB All-Star game, a series of tweets by Hader ranging from mid-2011 to late-2012 were discovered to contain racist, homophobic and sexist content.[29][30] Friends and family of Hader that were invited to the game were given blank jerseys to wear due to the controversy.[31][32] Hader issued an apology after the game and deleted his account on Twitter.[33][34]”

  6. sbuffaloDecember 3, 2019

    I guess I’m somewhat surprised and not surprised at the same time regarding Yimi García. I always thought he would rise to the next level. His ball really moved, but some times, too many times, it moved to the middle of the plate and flattened out. He became another face on the poster, failed to reach his potential. Maybe he will discover the key elsewhere and rise to the top. Or maybe not. If I ran a team looking for a cheap reliever with potential, I’d take a shot. But the Dodgers need to invest in a different kind of player.

    So why invest in Scott Alexander? Well, he’s a left handed who has the proven ability to get out both lefties and righties. He was hurt last year (left forearm inflammation) and they apparently expect him to bounce back, plus with the new rule change you need a lefty who can out hitters from both sides of the plate. That increases Alexander’s value.

    I’m sure the Dodgers would like to acquire Josh Hader, but at what cost? The Brewers aren’t going to give him away. Guessing the price will be high and the competition fierce, if they actually trade him.

    We need to get past Hader’s teenage years and remember we were once teens too. Did we do and say dumb things?

    I think Taijuan Walker is interesting as a starter or bullpen piece. Coming off Tommy John and then a shoulder issue, he does have good stuff. Wonder if the Dodgers think the same thing?

    A couple of Dodger insiders seem to think the Dodgers will offer a five year contract for Anthony Rendon at something like $40 million a year and he will be playing third base in LA next year with Justin Turner moving to first. They also said that a couple of current players won’t be on the roster with the expectation that Friedman will make three or four moves through trades or free agency.

  7. 59inarowDecember 3, 2019

    I totally agree with 99% of this. I’m 1% unsure about including Lux in the deal for Hader. As far as Hader’s stupid tweets…

    He comes from a small town and was probably a big fish in a small bowl. Just a dumb kid saying stupid things. I see no reason to hold a kid accountable in his professional career for saying some stupid stuff when he was a kid.

    As far as the 40 man goes. I agree that it was stupid to cut Yimi now instead of protecting Sheffield. But, the 40 man is full, we still need that Ace, RH Power Bat and Closer. So, we still need to more spots to open up. I’m not crying about losing Yimi when we still need to drop a couple more guys. Even more if we’re going to get one of those reclamation projects.

    The thing that really irritates me is that there’s at least 2 other pitchers that are worse than Yimi, but because they have options, they’re still on the team. But again, I’m not crying over spilled milk here, because there’s a lot of hot stove left and we really haven’t done anything so far.

    Hopefully there will be roster churn in the near future as I’m not really excited about still having Floro, Chargois, Kolarek, Sborz and White taking up valuable roster space. But, I’m sure we’ll still have some of those guys when Spring Training starts to my chagrin.

    Cole/Stras, Donaldson and Hader and Treinen – That would be unbelievable!

  8. DodgerdanDecember 3, 2019

    If Yimi is gone doesn’t that open up a spot on the 40 man? Couldn’t AF put Sheffield on it to protect him?

    BTW, if a team claims Sheffield in the rule 5 draft they have to keep him on their major league roster all season, and he doesn’t look ready for the majors yet. That’s why I think AF didn’t protect him.

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